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April 23, 2005

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I agree, it wis way too late in the big picture. This issue should have been dealt with already.

I was just postulating on what effect Cheney's remarks would have given the current state of the process. Does it help or hinder as things stand today?

If this helps spur some action on the part of the Senate leadership then I'll change the question to "What took you so long?"

The way I see it the danger is that Cheney's statements cause the Democrats to compromise, and leave the filibuster still in the rules to threaten Bush's future Supreme Court nominee.

“And we know very well that Democrats would do the same thing if they were in power and the Republicans were being as obstructionist as the Democrats currently are.”

How old are you? How many years have you been following politics?

Do you not remember that in some of the Clinton years the Democrats controlled the Senate and the Republicans used their minority rights to block many judicial appointments. They did not do it with the filibuster; they did it using other rules. The rules used by Republicans sometimes allowed one or two Senators to block a nomination. The filibuster requires 41.

So why aren’t Democrats using the same rules that Republicans used against Clinton? Simple, the Republicans have already changed all those other rules, leaving the filibuster the only way to block a judicial nomination. The Democrats did not try to change any of these rules during the Clinton years.

This is all about abortion. Right to life groups view this as their golden opportunity. If Roe is overturned, then the real political battle over abortion and birth control will begin. If you think this is ugly, you haven’t seen anything yet.

Well you guys are in the minority, even among Republicans, at least according to this report.

Let us try to keep in mind the fact that the Democrats have helped to confirm over 200 judges thus far, far more than the Republican controlled Congresses of the Clinton years. We are talking about destroying the Senate rules for 10 people, or 5% of the total nominees.

The Democrats have been actually pretty good about letting Bush get his nominees to the bench, so if they have problems with 10 people, chances are they have a legitimate case.

During the last six years of Clinton's presidency, the Republicans controlled the Senate so obviously they didn't need to filibuster anything.

I don't care about abortion. There are principles at stake more important than that.

honestly, what greater principles are at stake? I haven't been able to quite understand why this is so necessary for the Republicans. We're talking about 10 people here, and it's not like the Democrats have been obstructionists...quite the contrary.

What exactly are the greater principles at stake? And why are they greater than one of the most fundamental checks and balances in our government?

The most basic principle of freedom from government tyranny, which is what the Constitution was originally supposed to do by limiting the powers of the federal government and including the Ninth and Tenth Amendments.

The filibuster is not a "most fundamental check and balance," it's just a procedural rule that the Senate made up a long time ago that's not working so well in the present.

So you're suggesting that the Senate Democratic minority is on the verge of government tyranny because they're filibustering 10 of over 200 judicial nominations?

Is this the same Democratic Party that doesn't control the Executive, Legislative, or Judicial branch?

Neither party controls the federal judiciary it's independent. However liberal ideology has controlled the courts since the 1937 decision of NLRB v. Jones & Laughlin Steel Corp. I may add that liberal ideology also controls the news media which has been likened to a fourth branch of government.

At the same time, conservative ideology no longer controls the Republicans; these days they usually act like nothing more than religious Democrats.

Actually, the federal judiciary is overwhelmingly filled with Republican appointees.

Look it up. Or go here.

Of course the judiciary is independent, but if the political make up of the bench wasn't important, then we wouldn't be having this discussion, right?

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