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May 16, 2005

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That's the only redeeming feature of these sorts of lists; they're so subjective I can use one of my favorite Pogo phrases: "To each his dagnab own."

I find it funny that you trackbacked my discussion on this topic and nominated Frank McCourt for the Top 100 list. Why? I KNOW HIM. Nice confluence of coincidences.

McCourt worked with the PaMonk for 15 years (1972-87) when both were teachers at Stuyvesant High School in New York City. He wrote an inscription for The Monk's own copy of Angela's Ashes. And that is an outstanding memoir.

Just to clarify - I don't object to putting Julia Child on the list - I was just pointing out that ONLY woman whom Professor Bainbridge said "definitely" belonged on the list was Julia Child. All of his other "definites" were men. I found it remarkable that he could not think of one other woman who he thought definitely belonged on the list.

Hi Half Sigma
I have "nominated" my own short list of great Americans. Of course, these lists are enormously subjective, (that's what makes them fun) but I think few would argue with the three on my list. Click on my name to read what I had to say.

Thank you, linkmeister, for calling these lists what they are, totally subjective. Michael Jackson? Why is he so great anyway? Yuck.

I agree, totally, Frank McCourt should be on any and every list. I loved "Angela's Ashes," it was so wonderfully written. The fact that McCourt was a public school teacher is admirable in itself, though.

Hi Half Sigma
Q: Who is Chester Nimitz?
A: The Admiral who defeated Japan in WWII.
We have a great Navy and at least one Admiral should show up on the list. Maybe knock one of those Generals off of it.

I used Tweed as an example of how subjective the word "great" is. Tweed accomlished a lot and was great (highly skilled) at what he did and had a big impact on American history, but a lot of what he did was illegal or immoral. I used Wyatt Earp because the list left out the old west (an integral part of the American story) and included no law enforcement people. My main problem with the original list was that it was too biased towards the present and very recent past and that it included way too many entertainers.

You are partly wrong about "schoolteachers are completely absent from the list". LBJ was a schoolteacher and Laura Bush was a school librarian and both made the list.

LBJ was a schoolteacher and Laura Bush was a school librarian and both made the list.

Hmmm, didn't know that. For some reason I thought Laura Bush was a lawyer (was I confusing her with the last first lady?) and I assumed LBJ was a politician.

(And here are the official bios for Hillary and Laura--yep, she was a school librarian.)

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