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June 06, 2005

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The problem that I have is that linking the popularity drop to dissimilar SES is that it directly contradicts my personal anecdotal experience. My experience is that the "acting white" problem is very real, but hasn't been effectively quanified before (and, if this paper doesn't do the job, still hasn't.)

Actually, my hypothesis is that students of all races suffer in popularity when they get high grades. It's not unique to blacks.

It's the football players, not the nerds with high grades, who get the girls! In Happy Days, the cool guy was The Fonz who was a semi-delinquent.

I agree that this rampant anti-intellectualism is a bad thing, but it's bigger than just being a black issue. And it doesn't explain the black/white achievement gap.

Hi Half Sigma
Maybe Jewish girls think that smart guys are attractive. That would explain why the Ashkenazim Jews have higher IQs.

Hi Half Sigma
I agree that it makes no sense that white students would be more popular because they have higher grades. That's completely counterintuitive. My guess would be that for all groups, the popular students are the ones who put the most effort into social skills, and, if anything, this would be negatively correlated with the amount of effort that student puts into academics.

The problem with this debate is that high academic achievement does not mandate low social status at all. Note Ainsworth-Darnell and Downey (1998), Downey and Ainsworth-Darnell (2002), and Tyson et al. (2005), which indicate that this presumed drop in popularity actually is not demonstrable by the data. Furthermore, the hypothesis was first introduced by Fordham and Ogbu (1986) as an explanation for the black/white achievement gap. Neither quantitative nor qualitative data has highlighted any heightened reluctance to succeed academically based on fears of "acting white". Rather, as Tyson et al. discover, students are more likely to avoid rigorous courses out of concern that their GPAs will be lowered. Since the Acting White Hypothesis fails to establish any correlation between racialized ridicule (on those occasions when it is present) and withholding of effort or refusal to enroll in advanced courses, then this argument makes little sense at the moment.

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