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July 06, 2006

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"How low do earnings of unskilled laborers have to go before Congress decides that we don’t need any more immigration? "
A curious case for lowering, not raising the minimum wage - so that politicians will see the havoc of their own policy.

Could it be that the real explanation is not that the labor of men without high school diplomas is getting less valuable, but rather that the average IQ of men without high school diplomas is falling?

Brandon, According to the GSS, the average IQ of people with at least a Bachelor's degree is decreasing twice as fast as the average IQ of people without a high school diploma.

If we are talking about unskilled labor in the corporate environment, that is one thing. But on the outside, a guy with no college can make a good living cleaning windows because of the laws of supply and deman: no one wants to do it. I'm making twice what I did 15 years ago, and I will probably be giving myself a raise again next year. If I worked for a company, where I am just a commodity, my family would be at the mercy of people who see me as a cost that they want to remain fixed, instead of a convenient service with value added (homeowners like and trust me).

We, the grunts, need to understand that we are in the enviable position of being the few who are willing to do the world's dirty work. We can get all the money we have the nerve to ask for. I see other HS grads do it all the time. I know a painter who heads to New York State for the summer to play golf, and comes back to Florida for his busy season. He's my hero. :)

Small interstitial one/two man businesses like window washing or (my favorite example of an absurd micromarket, which a friend of mine makes a very good living at) etching the glass on lawyer's doors are accidental niches, the kind of thing that the clever undereducated fall into by luck. The idea that any serious percentage of soon-to-be-useless labor could find some three-contractors-per-metropolitan area microtrade is a joke. Just the rigors of running a one man business (taxes, managing business loans, etc.) are probably too much for most.

According to the GSS, the average IQ of people with at least a Bachelor's degree is decreasing twice as fast as the average IQ of people without a high school diploma.

IQ might not be the main issue. What with all the ways that schools try to keep just about everyone until graduation, many of the remaining high school dropouts are the most troubled of all - drunks, drug addicts, the hopelessly delinquent, and so on. It's no surprise that their earnings are so low. Most of them probably have the worst imaginable work habits.

Peter, I'm sure you correctly explain the statistic. IQ of high school droputs is decreasing because it's easier to graduate from high school so only the least intelligent remain.

At the same time, a higher percentage of the population goes to college, so colleges are dipping down into the average or even below average IQ part of the population for some of their students, causing the IQ of the average college graduate to drop.

Yet one of the few areas in the GSS where that Wordsum score is a LOT less important than educational attainment is when predicting income.

>Peter, I'm sure you correctly explain the statistic. IQ of high school droputs is decreasing because it's easier to graduate from high school so only the least intelligent remain.

At the same time, a higher percentage of the population goes to college, so colleges are dipping down into the average or even below average IQ part of the population for some of their students, causing the IQ of the average college graduate to drop.
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This is called >.

A degree is worth less than what it stand for before. Yet such degree often makes a talent for labor job dreaming of white collar position which he might not be good at.


This is called EDUCATION INFLATION.

A degree is worth less than what it stand for before. Yet such degree often makes a talent for labor job dreaming of white collar position which he might not be good at.

"the kind of thing that the clever undereducated fall into by luck."

Yeah, it's always luck when it's someone else who has made it. I think Turkey is one of those who is educated beyond common sense.

All I know is that I see a lot of work that goes undone because there is no one to do it. It adds up. If you can add...

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