How come white men never rape black women?

I have been asked to comment on this article at FrontPage Magazine, The Truth of Interracial Rape in the United States. Dennis Mangan has a blog post about the article and the controversy.

The article was based on the stats in a U.S. Department of Justice Publication documenting crime statistics in 2005.

There were 160,270 single-offender rapes/sexual assaults reported in 2005. 48.% of the offenders were black, an impressively high total considering that blacks are only 13% of the population.

What's more interesting is when the race of the victim is compared to the race of the offender. For the 111,490 cases where the rape/sexual assault victim was white, 33.6% of the time the perceived race of the offender was black, compared to 44.5% white.

But for the 36,620 cases where the rape/sexual assuult victim was black, 100% of the time the offender was reported to be black. (And we are told that 0% means 10 or fewer reported cases, so it's possible that there have been as many as 10 cases of non-black men raping black women in 2005.)

This is a pretty strange statistic if you think about it. There were approximately 74,029 rape/sexual assaults commited by non-black men, but in no more than 10 of these cases was the victim black? What's wrong with black women that no one wants to rape them? I'd think that 2% of the time the victim would be black so there'd be 1,480 cases of non-blacks raping blacks. But in fact, this happened 10 times or less.

Because only 31.4% of rapes are committed by strangers, the best way a black woman can avoid being raped is to only know white men. (This is not likely to happen, because black women aren't romantically interested in white men.)

Comments

Hmmm, I am wondering what you'd think "a genuinely concerned female or feminist" would think about a wife covering up for her husband who had been accused multiple times of rape.

Kind of more of the moment that what happened 200 years ago.

Let's just jettison all historical records & the work historians have produced over the past few centuries that are largely based on them - being as so much of what we know & accept as true about past eras is based on the testimony of the people who lived through it, it's all just unreliable, biased nonsense.

[teejay]

If there no no consensus on whether he even fathered Hemmings children

The DNA evidence from descendants of Jefferson compared to DNA evidence of at least one of Hemmings' sons is fairly compelling that something happened.

[teejay]

Let's just jettison all historical records & the work historians have produced over the past few centuries that are largely based on them - being as so much of what we know & accept as true about past eras is based on the testimony of the people who lived through it, it's all just unreliable, biased nonsense.

You are mistaking your mishandling of evidence with the evidence itself.

The DNA evidence shows that Hemmings youngest son is related to someone in the Jefferson extended family. There is no direct evidence that Thomas Jefferson is that person. It could have been Randolph Jefferson, who had father children from his slaves, except that everyone would have said 'who'?

http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=95000747

Its not impossible that a 64 yo could have fathered a child, but given the state of health care then, Jefferson may not have been all that vigorous when the kid was fathered.

Not really enough for me to accuse someone of being a rapist.

[Avi]

"Further studies have been conducted. The William & Mary Quarterly published a probabilistic analysis of the timing of Jefferson's visits to Monticello and Hemings's pregnancies which concluded that it was highly likely that the two series of events were related."

AND

"Nevertheless, through the quirks of history and biology, only one set of Americans can show both that their ancestors were born at Monticello and that they share a Y chromosome with the Jefferson family: the patrilineal male descendants of Eston Hemings, Sally Hemings's youngest son."

AND

"a group of specialists from the Thomas Jefferson Foundation, which owns and operates Monticello, produced a study on the controversy initiated soon after the Nature paper. Their near-unanimous [12] report [13] stated that "although paternity cannot be established with absolute certainty, our evaluation of the best evidence available suggests the strong likelihood that Thomas Jefferson and Sally Hemings had a relationship over time that led to the birth of one, and perhaps all, of the known children of Sally Hemings."

AND

"The study's major findings were that the Y chromosome of the Jefferson family matched that of Eston Hemings family, while the Y chromosomes of the Woodson and Carr families were each different. The implications for the paternity question were clear. The Jefferson grandchildren's contention that Sally Hemings's children had been fathered by one or the other Carr brother was not tenable. Neither was the Woodson family's claim to have been descended from Jefferson. On the other hand, Eston Hemings was undoubtedly the son of a Jefferson."

Looks to me the probability that Jefferson fathered atleast one son with Sally Hemmings seems pretty high.

Sources from Wiki.

Argh. Did you miss all those references to "a Jefferson" and "they share a Y chromosome with the Jefferson family"?

And you left out the entry from wikipedia from the "Jefferson-Hemings Scholars Commission"
On April 12, 2001, they issued a report; at 565 pages, it was far longer than the Foundation report, though many of those pages were devoted to a review of the evidence that the Thomas Jefferson Foundation study examined. The conclusion of most of the Scholars Commission was that "the Jefferson-Hemings allegation is by no means proven"; those members' individual conclusions ranged from "serious skepticism about the charge" to "a conviction that it is almost certainly false".

The fact that he is "a Jefferson" does not make him a rapist. Especially not when Randolph Jefferson lived at the same location and *did* father children with his slaves.

The William and Mary statistic study is not direct evidence, and is not all that convincing considering that only one child is linked to Jefferson by DNA. What are the odds a man is at his own home... pretty high.

[Avi]

Report of the Research Committee
on Thomas Jefferson and Sally Hemings
Thomas Jefferson Foundation (found in monticello.org)

"VI. Conclusions
Based on the examination of currently available primary and secondary documentary evidence, the oral histories of descendants of Monticello's African-American community, recent scientific studies, and the guidance of individual members of Monticello's Advisory Committee for the Robert H. Smith International Center for Jefferson Studies and Advisory Committee on African-American Interpretation, the Research Committee has reached the following conclusions:

1. Dr. Foster's DNA study was conducted in a manner that meets the standards of the scientific community, and its scientific results are valid.

2. The DNA study, combined with multiple strands of currently available documentary and statistical evidence, indicates a high probability that Thomas Jefferson fathered Eston Hemings, and that he most likely was the father of all six of Sally Hemings's children appearing in Jefferson's records. Those children are Harriet, who died in infancy; Beverly; an unnamed daughter who died in infancy; Harriet; Madison; and Eston.

3. Many aspects of this likely relationship between Sally Hemings and Thomas Jefferson are, and may remain, unclear, such as the nature of the relationship, the existence and longevity of Sally Hemings's first child, and the identity of Thomas C. Woodson.

4. The implications of the relationship between Sally Hemings and Thomas Jefferson should be explored and used to enrich the understanding and interpretation of Jefferson and the entire Monticello community."

[Rain And]

If Jefferson did not have sex with any slave, then he wasn't a rapist. If he did then he was.

The point of teejay's rhetorical question was to "prove" that my position was extreme, because it would indicate a beloved historical figure should be labeled a rapist. It was an emotional ploy and the Hemmings relationship was built into the question.

I have no idea what Jefferson did with Hemmings, but if he had sex with a slave, yes, in fact, that would be rape, and he would be a rapist - regardless of how important he was as a statesman.

[Ian]

I think that

1. Most white men are on average less attracted to black women because they are more masculine (argumentative, ungraceful, etc) than they would want.

2. Black women are on average less attracted to white men because they are less masculine (phsycially confident, can f*ck all night, etc) than they would want.

3. American slavery was not always the whips, beatings, insults, humilating oppression that the popular imagination makes it out to be. From the first person reports I have read, it was often a more placid, domestic, humdrum affair, with a placid, sometimes congenial (if, of course, power-imbalanced and exploitive) daily rhythm between master and slaves. Many slaves wished to stay with their masters after 1865.

4. Anyone who thinks that a woman wanting to sleep with a power figure (slave master, boss, president, priest, therapist, doctor, etc) is always being exploited (or even raped), and never does so out of her own intentional choice, fails to understand a key aspect of female sexuality ("I'm not saying that every woman is a starfucker, but I sure do see a lot of them in my line of work" - Mick Jagger, 1972).

5. I think that white masters had sex with black slave women because they were there, not because it would have been their first choice. To repeat: in general, I think, white men are not as attracted to black women as they are more feminine white and Asian women.

[Ian]

5. I think that white masters had sex
with black slave women because they were there, not because it would have been their first choice.

Although this does not seem to be the case with Thomas Jefferson and Sally Hemmings. From everything I have read, he was truly in love with her (she was the half-sister of his deceased wife).

As was written above: East Asian women are nearly as unlikely to be raped by white men as black women are. However feminine they are, East Asian women are not targets for white men. For whatever reason, rapists mostly stick to their own kind.

Anyone who thinks that a woman wanting to sleep with a power figure (slave master, boss, president, priest, therapist, doctor, etc) is always being exploited (or even raped), and never does so out of her own intentional choice

Conflating a woman's doctor or boss with a slave master, a person who literally owns her & her children and has absolute power over her in a society that doesn't recognize her as a full human being is ridiculous.

[Turambar]

It is possible to recognize an invalid argument on the internet merely by the use of the word 'conflate'. This is another example.

Sailer had speculated in the article way above that men may be less attracted to black women because men are attracted to youth, long hair is a marker for youth, and black women do not easily grow long hair. Sounds plausible but he does not site any sources. This is the nappy-headed theory.

OK, you're right. One's relationship with one's doctor and one's relationship with one's slave owner is quite similar.

[David Alexander]

An interesting test would be if we could amass a sample of white males and have them look at the same women with short hair and wigs with long hair and see which ones rate higher. In addition, I'd like to see if the dark skin tones have some effect as well. Black women obviously have darker skin than white women, but Asian women have skin tones that are similar to white skin tones.

Also, I remember reading in one of the newspapers around here that usage of make up depends on race. Hispanic women had the highest daily usage at 75% or so with scores gradually going into the 60s for white and Asian women with black women at 30% or so. Is it possible that the lack of makeup comes across as tomboyish, especially when combined with short hair and slightly masculine looks?

[Ian]

Conflating a woman's doctor or boss with a slave master, a person who literally owns her & her children and has absolute power over her in a society that doesn't recognize her as a full human being is ridiculous.

You're ignoring my point. They are both positions of power and authority. I believe the evolutionary psychologists that women sexually respond to males in positionds of power and authority (no matter how much men not in positions of power and authority think that they shouldn't or that they're being exploited or duped).

[Spungen]

Yet, somehow, I still think ick, ick, ick. My body must be lying to me.

[Turambar]

An interesting test would be if we could amass a sample of white males and have them look at the same women.....

Not necessary. You could just check the top level galleries at porn sites. Black women are a rarity.

[Terri]

This is a horrible topic to even come up with for discussion. Rape of any kind committed by whomever, rape is rape to even look at it as a racial issue; but OK , since you brung up the topic.
Do you know the history of this country? Black women were raped on a daily basis by white men. That behavior was so common it became another unfortunate consequence of slavery that continued well after the civil war. As a result of white men rapping and abuse of black girls/women we now have a rainbow of complexion and hues of black people.
Rape is a crime of power, usually perpertrated in geographical locations of where the victim lives. Neighborhoods are still populated by people of the same race. Predominately black neighborhoods are populated with people of various income levels (largely low/moderate income) therefore a lot of neighborhoods tend to be undesirable for non blacks / hispanics to live even visit. I assume a white male (rapist) does not want to lurk around waiting for prey, when he could become the prey himself.
In response to one of the earlier post: I'm a black woman and plenty of white men are attracted to me including my husband.

[David Alexander]

Not necessary. You could just check the top level galleries at porn sites. Black women are a rarity.

From what I've seen, black women in porn, IMHO, are not as attractive and good looking as their real life counterparts. In contrast, for white women, porn stars (admittedly with all that makeup) are better looking than their Hollywood counterparts and somewhat better looking than their real life counterparts. The black women in porn tend to be dark skinned and very "black" looking and producers who pick them seem to look for women who only work in black male on black female porn. In fact, there's very little of the "near-18" market in black porn when compared with white porn.

In response to one of the earlier post: I'm a black woman and plenty of white men are attracted to me including my husband.

If you're still reading, Terri, could explain the disconnect between white men and black women that leads to the low intermarriage rates?

[trixnee]

Oh my God, what a horrible thread!! As a black (African) foreigner, I certainly don't feel safe around random white men/assume they won't rape me. As a grad student in science, I have many white men in my social circle/academic circle, but being of the high intellect/social status we all are, the chances of rape are low in my opinion. I even don't fear date rape/acquaintance rape from these men, because we are all rather reasonable well-adjusted people.

I hope it is indeed true that white men do not want to rape black women!!! That will make my life much easier! If rape is about physical attraction (IMO, maybe it is some of the time, but certainly not most of the time), well, then this whole argument is all over the place. Some random white man won't rape Meagan Good because she's black, even though she is physically attractive...how does that work? I have a similar look to MG, with an Eva Longoria body, when I go out partying at night with my (multiracial) friends (dressed in skimpy clothes to boot), I'm not going to assume that just because I'm black I'm suddenly unattractive and no non-black men will rape me LOL. That is ridiculous.

Seeing as I move in middle class/upper middle class circles where rape isn't an issue (within group), I can't give any possible reasons as to why white men don't rape black women. However, I can recount my own experiences of whether or not there is some kind of mutual attraction. Well, I'll say this, when I walk in a room, all my male colleagues' eyes are on me, when I socialize, I'm surrounded by enamoured men (and professors), when I dress up, I'm the best looking girl in the room, and quite frankly, even the married men are currently lusting after me. As an attractive woman, this is how it is daily for me when it comes to men of all races (including Asians!), so it doesn't boost my ego, it just amuses me. I am attracted to all kinds of men, so, there is a mutual attraction between myself and some of these white and Asian men. Since this is anonymous, I'll even admit that I use my looks to endear my male professors to me, such that some of them are so blinded by their attraction to me, they think I can do no wrong, and I'm given leeway to speak and joke around with them as an equal (rather than as a lowly grad student haha). My point is, apparently there *is* a mutual attraction between black women and non-black men. I do agree though, that for the most part the black woman/white man attraction is very low. It's not because black women are ugly or whatever, it's just that some white men just don't like the look of black women and vice-versa. There are white men out there who think Halle Berry/Nia Long/Kerry Washington are not at all attractive. These women, obviously are physically attractive, not masculine/ghetto/fat etc. It's obviously a racial preference in their case, or lack thereof. Saying Kerry Washington is ugly is pretty ridiculous.

[Avi]

My point is, apparently there *is* a mutual attraction between black women and non-black men.

I think you are right. I read the paper by Tierney from NYT online about racial preference in dating. While the guys did not mind what ethnicity the girl is as long as she is hot, the girls were particular and insisted on dating their own race (except asian females who showed a preference to dating white men.)

In my almost all white college, there are very few blacks (most tend to be Asian, Arab, Persian, South Asian). Black girls in my school date outside, on average, more than black guys. Usually these women are considered attractive (and they are usually gorgeous) and easily date white guys with no sort of complications. Many of these black girls are also biracial, usually of Irish or Arab descent and from military families so they share a similar culture. Curiously, except for muslims and arabs, minority girls (persian, asian, south asian, black) can easily date white guys while it is harder for a guy to get a white girlfriend (just harder, not impossible).

I actually found it easier to date/flirt/make friends with white guys than the guys of my ethnic group.

[David Alexander]

while it is harder for a guy to get a white girlfriend (just harder, not impossible)

It's primarily because when you're a minority, you have to prove that you're not the same as the other members of that ethnic groups and that you don't come with baggage and stereotypes. As a black guy, I have to prove to a white woman that I'm not the stereotypical barely literate, overly-aggressive, rap listening local area black thug who rapes women, sells drugs, and runs around shooting people with illegally obtained guns.

I actually found it easier to date/flirt/make friends with white guys than the guys of my ethnic group.

Stupid Question: What's your ethnic group?

[Avi]

Stupid Question: What's your ethnic group?

South Asian, I believe.

[Rob]

I'm certainly willing to agree that white men don't mind dating girls of any ethnicity as long as they're hot. I do wonder though, what fractions of different ethnicities are hot.

[trixnee]

"I do wonder though, what fractions of different ethnicities are hot."

As a woman, I rarely have such thoughts! As an attractive woman, I certainly don't care, if on average such-and-such an ethnic group has many good looking women. Since so many women aren't as good looking as I am, I really don't care!

[Terri]

If you're still reading, Terri, could explain the disconnect between white men and black women that leads to the low intermarriage rates?
I can not explain a disconnect between two groups, I am only one individual married to an individual (of the opposite race).
I do not have an opinion of why the low marriage rates between wm and bw but of the higher intermarriage rates between other interracial unions.

[Chandra Clarke Huerlimann]

I haven't finished reading all the comments here and I'm late, as usual (but will add this blog to my favourites). Just wanted to say that I ABSOULTELY ADORE SPUNGEN!. She's my GODDESS!. Smart, great and enlightening comments that smack you in the face with their depth and logic. If I was into women, I'd stalk you, Lady, as I totally get turned on by confident knowledge.

Chandra

[Chandra Clarke Huerlimann]

Like Spungen(my new Goddess)commented: "I hope you're being sarcastic" with the "Don't white male rapist find black women attractive" diatribe as it's too serious an issue to, again, place on an innocent victim's shoulders. Besides I imagine all black women just breathing a sigh of relief that statistics have proven they have one less victimization to fear!. I don't have a surveyed answer to this article, but can agree with many comments here about accessibility, power play, mental impairment, perceptions of easiness (I'm probably buying into a stereotype of white females black men have). What is sickening is that my white sisters or any females are confronted with such sick bastards.

Chandra

[Kimberly]

The question should not even be asked. Are you that desperate for a white man to be interested in you. Rape is not something to be taken lightly or as a race question.

Spungen thrashed around with maytag repair man and every other theory to avoid the correct answer- most white men dont find most black women attractive. Not that there isnt some black women who is attractive to most men, or that there are some white men who find black women attractive, but that in general white guys just arent into black girls.

A simple proof is to consult top level porn galleries and you can see that black girls are way underrepresented. Why? Because the market place demand is low.

The following do not constitute a refutation: you love your black wife; there a particular actor who dates a lot of black women; that you consider yourself an attractive black women and men hit on you; that out of 6 people who bought 'Black Juggz" on a particular day, 3 were white.

[Ashley]

You are all very wrong here. Having studied the criminal mind, the explanation is very simple. People act out their crimes the way the envision themselves-with people that look like them and their surroundings. That is the way most people see their fantasies. Looks have very little to do with it. What about the old granny that gets overpowered and raped..Was he so attracted that he couldn't resist? Plenty of black women get raped, the only difference is that crimes against black people are usually less reported and less likely to be convicted. Going further, most criminals commit their crimes in areas they are familiar and comfortable with, which would explain the disparity in those numbers. A white rapist is most likely going to commit a rape against a white women significantly close to him. The same is true for murders. For the most part white people kill other white people and most black people kill black people. To this day, no white criminal has ever received the death penalty for the murder of a black person, but this does not hold true vice versa. I'm sure there are plenty of black women who have been raped by black men, but culturally choose not to come forward because it is a sad truth in the black community to not cooperate with the authorities. As our society becomes more multicultural and people are more closely confined and mixed with other nationalities this is going to change. This is going to seriously challenge all knowledge professions have collected about criminals and their relationship to the committed crime. Never forget that rape is about power, not sex or beauty.

Ashley, did you even read the pdf? These are self reports. Its not a question of a black woman going it to police station- all they have to do is respond to the interviewer. So there is no issue about police reports and convictions.

White men have more interaction with black women than they do with black men. There are more black women total, there are more who are not imprisoned, and they are more likely to be in the same professions as white men.

And yet while there is other white/black violent crime, there is no white on black rape. So its not just oppertunity.

Black on white rape? Lots of it. 33.6% of the rapes of Whites were perceived to be committed by Blacks. That is slightly more in numbers (37460 vs 36620) than the total number of Black women raped. Table 42.

Regarding your raped granny that you think is a perfect counter argument to the idea that rape is provoked by attraction. Check out Table 38- there are very few assaults on the over 65. As age increases you likelihood of getting assaulted goes down.

[LeftEyeLopez]

blacks are rapists and criminals, they make up a small portion of the population but they make up the majority of all inmates.

[Ashley]

Lefteyelopez, that would make these numbers even less reliable. If you are basically going to sit here and say black women don't get raped because their "unattractive", help yourself.

[Ashley]

oh boy, white women are so hot and irresistible that black men just cant keep their penises out of them. lol, thats what you want to hear.

Ashley, after reading the report thats the best you can come up with? Pretty weak.

[Ashley]

call it whatever you will. im not going to argue with people who choke down the facts of the report without challenging reality. That would be a waste of my time.

[jasmine]

I think the majority of you are very sick people who are too caught up in black and white. I am white, and ill say there are more ugly white women out there than black because theres ugly in BOTH, but whites outnumber blacks. rape is disgusting and you have all wasted precious space in your mind and body to go back and fourth over such rotten things.

[Sgruber]

Jasmine,

So your advice is: don't think.

It's amusing to see the stereotypes who post on here, like Rain And. She's a brilliant, beautiful Black Woman, don't you know - all the white boys want to rape her! Except, they don't. And she's as mad as a wet hen about it (if wet hens could read MacKinnon, that is). LOL: all that Marxist nonsense about "the evil White male" being uniquely rape-prone (backed up by such "experts" as "women's studies" and "feminist" harpies, who consider ALL men to be rapists) when precisely the opposite is true. White men are significantly rape-and-other-violent-crime-AVERSE per capita, compared to black males.

Another factor to consider is STDs. Rates among blacks (males and females) are through-the-roof high. Here
http://www.kirksvilletoday.com/?p=83#more-83

Maybe John is not "into" Lameesha because he doesn't want to get a nasty disease? Who knows what "down-low" brother preceded his sloppy second?

[SFG]

I never believed that whole 'rape is about power' thing. People steal because they want something and they don't want to pay for it, horny men aren't going to rape because they want sex and they can't get it through a relationship?

[julesborn]

Um are you fucking kidding me? the title of this forum just shows how ignorant american people are. White guys dont rape black woment..LMAO how do you think the african american race was made. along with hispanics (Puerto ricans Dominicans Cubans) and Brazilians and millions of other nationalities. Every where the white man traveled he raped and killed hundreds of thousands of women. What about all the rapings in the south ..my own grandmother is half african american half white and never knew her father because her mother was raped. This went on for years but was never told because whites killed black women who told. You need to learn american history before you post a blog like this ignorant people like you keep our country down. 75% of every african american has white european in there blood..and guess why ??? becaue you're "white men who dont rape black women" did

[Lisa Jones]

Wow! This country has a long way to go in regards to such blatant ignorance! It saddens me to see a bunch of misinformed youths basing a topic that's important on their opinions. All of you are wrong, with the exception of the last couple of comments posted. To all the White/Non-Black Guys making such repulsive remarks about Black Women. Let me get one thing straight with you. Black women have carried the brunt of white backlash for centuries! and yes MILLIONS OF US WERE FORCIBLY RAPED BY WHITE MALES. You're a sick puppy to think Black women enjoyed being humiliated that way. We have the highest growing number of educated females than any race in this country. We've endured pain on all aspects because we had to. Stop your belly aching rhetoric on Black Females being masculine and unattractive. If we were that hideous, why are you constantly trying to objectify us by trying to get us in bed. Sounds like more like a personal problem to me. Stop player hating because you were rejected by a beautiful African American Female who didn't want you. Stop and take a good look at yourself. Have you ever wondered why White Females are looking elsewhere for companionship/marriage? If you haven't figured it out, it's because there's a problem with you!!!! These women are tired of your childish mentality. The superiority complexes are a little less to be desired. I got news for you-White Men aren't the most desirable. It has more to do with attitude and less with looks. Get yourself together and then maybe we can start all over with a more decent and appropriate conversation.

[trixnee]

Mmm, I'd be interested in hearing an explanation by the earlier white posters as to why so many black women were raped throughout slavery if "white men don't rape black women". I suppose the reason so many African Americans have European ancestry is because black men raped white women for the last 400 years...???

[Rob]

Work out a model for how gene flow from colonization on to get black Americans at ~20% white now.

Conclusion: very few white men had sex with black women.

[TCW]

I think that white men may not rape black women as much for three reasons

1. Black people, on average, are little stronger than whites. Although a white man is still stronger than a Black women, there isn't as much difference as there is between him and a white woman (i.e. raping the Black woman can usually be done, but it is harder than raping the white one therefore the SOB goes for the easier target).

2. Black women are percieved as "tougher". Of course it isn't always true, but it is a lot of the time due to the different ways white and black women are reared. I bet asian women probably get raped more than either black or white women as they are seen as timid. Again, the rapist goes for the easier target (i.e. a target not as likely to fight back)

3. Can you imagine what would happen to the white rapist of a black woman in prison? The Black men would be out to get him big time because of the unfortunate slavery history in this country. Most whites in jail are Nazi or KKK types, so they wouldn't defend a guy that had "defiled" himself.

A lot of white guys are attracted to black chicks, but rape isn't really about attraction anyhow (maybe a little, but its mostly about power). I can't believe anybody actually feels offended that white guys don't want to rape them?! Black women, you should be glad and grateful that there aren't as many predators after you as there are after me (a white chick). Why ask why, just be happy!

[dana111]

I actually agree with TCW... But, as other commenters have said, rape is a crime of control... That is, the rapist desires to exert and prove his superiority and power over his victim, so I don't know if rapist prey on women they view as weak or easy, or do they prey on women they view as too uppity?

The twisting and the backflips that go on here.

First, get your irrelevant allegation straight- is it millions of black women were raped by people no longer alive or is it hundreds of thousands? Just make it a tidy 100 million because it isnt germane anyway.

Next, black women are capable of being raped. Why dont you read the report you are commenting on? There were over 30K rapes- they just werent done by white guys.

You could also have answered your speculative third point by reading the report. Women would be easiest to rape when they were elderly- yet that group has the lowest incidence. The highest rate occurs, if I remember correctly, at 18-24 which corresponds with highest attractiveness. The rate of rape decreases as the victim ages and fecundity decreases.

You just totally made up point three. Criminals are not weighing being caught and the consequences.

"A lot of white guys are attracted to black chicks". Some guys are attracted to some black girls. Some black women are attractive to almost all men. But most white men simply aren't attracted to most black girls. You can easily verify this by checking porn sites.

"But, as other commenters have said, rape is a crime of control"
Thats begging the question. We have been though the other explanations and the one that fits best is "attractiveness" of the victim. Sorry if this make you have to rethink what you've been told.

[trixnee]

The logic flow here is wanting. We all know that the reason black men rape white women is because of power/history/low SES (among other things) but some people actually think it's because black men find white women attractive. I think any reasonable person knows that that is not the case (behind the high stats of black on white rape). I'm pointing out the history of white men raping black women to show that rape has likely nothing to do with physical attraction (unless people want to claim white men of yore found black women attractive)...and by the way, very many white men raped black women during slavery, as well as post-slavery when the black women were mostly maids in white suburbs. Does someone not know any history?

Lastly, which black woman here even said they wanted white men to rape them? I see my post above clearly mentioning my relief as to the fact that "white men don't rape black women"...now.

Who in their right mind thinks rape is MOSTLY about physical attraction?