The last post was about Iran. Specifically about why Iran is more likely to use nuclear weapons than other nuclear powers. But obviously, any post about the Middle East arouses passions and prevents people from looking at anything logically, or focusing on a single issue, the issue of whether Iran is likely to use nuclear weapons.
Instead, the debate separates into pro-Israel and anti-Israel camps, in which the pro-Israel side takes every single position that is thought to be pro-Israel, and the anti-Israel side takes every single position that is thought to be anti-Israel. For some reason or other, the argument that Iran is more likely to use nuclear weapons than other nations is deemed to be a pro-Israel position, so anti-Israel people are vehemently trying to say what a great "democracy" Iran is, and then throwing in all sorts of arguments which have nothing to do with Iran.
So the following arguments were raised:
(1) Israel is not part of the West. This has nothing to do with whether or not Iran will use nuclear weapons, except to make it more likely that Israel will be a target of said weapons because Israel is a lot closer to Iran than it would be if it were geographically part of the West.
(2) Stalin killed more people than Ahmadinejad. I suppose that to the extent that how many people one has killed is correlated with willingness to use nuclear weapons, then this means Ahmadinejad is less likely to use them. But it may simply be that Stalin had the opportunity to kill more enemies of the state.
(3) Suicide bombers are "Palestinians" and not Persians. Muslims seem to like the idea no matter their ethnicity. The releveant diffence is only betwen Shiites and Sunnis, not Persians and Arabs. Shiite suicide bombers have been operating out of Lebanon. According to this article, Iranians strongly believe in martyrdom. Iranian children's TV shows glorify sucicide bombing. Iranians, at the moment, simply have less opportunity to suicide bomb anyone because of their distance from Israel and because Iran is not currently at war with anyone. Would Iran's leaders commit a mass suicide bombing in the form of a nuclear exchange?
(4) "Iran has legitimate reasons to be angry at Israel ... " Part of an anti-Israel comment, but it really makes Iran more likely to use nuclear bombs on Israel because if its "legitimate" anger.
(5) "I have never understood why actually US is interested in Israel at all? ..." Another anti-Israel comment that has nothing to do with whether Iran might use nuclear weapons. Whether or not you care about the victims of the nuclear explosions, surely it's useful to know if the nuclear weapons might be used, if only for the selfish reason of knowing to take your money out of the stock market (except for oil stocks) before the bombs go off.
(6) "The Middle-East is a basket case. The USA has no business there. Let them sort it out by themselves." See my response to the comment above.
(7) "Ahmadinejad has had plenty of opportunities for both personal and national martyrdom and has passed them up." History is full of leaders who weren't interested in personal death but who had no problems sacrificing the lives of others in order to meet their own objectives. Even Harry S. Truman used nuclear bombs in warfare, and he's the good guys. Just because Ahmadinejad doesn't want to commit a pointless suicide doesn't mean that the risk that he might not be safe in his bomb shelter would be enough to deter him from the glory of being part of the destruction of Israel. Surely, the culture of martyrdom makes Ahmadinejad and Iran's Ayatollahs less concerned about personal death in war than typical national leaders. Furthermore, Iran might use nuclear bombs on Sunni Muslim enemies who don't have a nuclear deterrence.
(8) "What about the fact that American politicians (namely Bush) consistently threaten Iran with a preemptive strike." A very dumb policy. If you are going to preemptively strike someone, you shouldn't give warning. But the fact that Bush has stupid foreign policy has nothing to do with whether or not Iran is more likely to use nuclear weapons than other nuclear powers.
(9) "Iran might have ONE nuke in 10 years" Even if true, it has nothing to do with whether Iran might use the nukes once it gets them. This is an argument for delaying doing anything about the problem, assuming you think we should do anything at all. People just can't focus on the one issue.
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