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Frauenmangel: it's German for the Woman Shortage. (Hat tip: fifi.)
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Frauenmangel: it's German for the Woman Shortage. (Hat tip: fifi.)
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Now, all we need to know are the German terms or words for de facto polygamy, serial monogamy, and nerd.
Presumably "alpha," "beta" and "omega" are the same.
Posted by: Peter | November 26, 2007 at 12:53 PM
The article points out something very interesting: a lot of poor women prefer to be maintained by the state than to marry a poor man. This means that there is nothing as harmful for a poor man than a generous welfare state for single mothers. It can be said that some single mothers are de facto married to the state, and maintained by the taxes of all working men, including the poor men, without retributing sex. Who benefits from this trend? Mainly men in western germany, but also the rest of Western Europe and even the US (where the young pretty Fräuleins emigrate).
Posted by: Gannon | November 26, 2007 at 01:51 PM
Sigh. HS, women want you to believe there is a women shortage so you will not stumble upon the realization that since women are so selective, there are actually not enough good men for them.
You seem to have fallen for their shit.
Posted by: Loki on the run | November 26, 2007 at 01:57 PM
What do you think, is it easier for a woman to move abroad in search of better life than for a man? Is is easier for a woman to find a job abroad? Or it is easier for a woman to accept such (maybe low-paying) jobs that are available for foreigners abroad? And perhaps it is also easier for a woman to find a partner also abroad.
Posted by: | November 26, 2007 at 02:07 PM
They should institute polyandry.
Posted by: Cameron | November 26, 2007 at 02:53 PM
This means that there is nothing as harmful for a poor man than a generous welfare state for single mothers.
bingo.
why do so many young, single women vote democrat? because the government is a father and husband substitute. or, more specifically, a Big Man alpha male substitute.
the welfare state in a multicultural society of vast unequal distribution of gifts and talents has contained within it the seed of its own destruction.
Posted by: roissy | November 26, 2007 at 03:04 PM
How could the unification of the two Germanies been so badly mishandled? It's almost a generation now and the East has become a permanent welfare encampment.
Yet, at least according to the Deutches Bundesbank, unemployment in neighboring Poland is almost as high as that of Eastern Germany.But Poland is booming (general consensus)-but wages are still low so 2 million Poles are working abroad. And, of course, no "generous welfare benefits" in Poland. I wonder about those Polish unemployment figures.
Polish opposition seeks emigrant support in Britain
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An estimated 2 million people left the former communist state after it joined the European Union in 2004. Most of the young people came to Britain and Ireland, complaining about lack of prospects in Poland.
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Emigration coupled with a growing economy in Poland has helped to bring down unemployment; but it has in turn caused a shortage of skilled labour leading to wage pressure that threatens to cut short the boom.
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Unconvinced by the Polish Boom
Posted by: lizard | November 26, 2007 at 04:04 PM
None of these Woman Shortage articles ever seem to show sympathy for the men affected. As a man affected by the (relatively mild) Woman Shortage in America, I can empathize with the pain of being denied what you're biologically programmed to need.
Posted by: | November 26, 2007 at 04:22 PM
"None of these Woman Shortage articles ever seem to show sympathy for the men affected. As a man affected by the (relatively mild) Woman Shortage in America, I can empathize with the pain of being denied what you're biologically programmed to need."
Well, in general modern media is not very male friendly.
The truth is there has always been a slight woman shortage. Older men looking for second wifes after divorce or polygamy, more males born and so on. Some people point out that most countries have in fact more women than men, but that's only true because there are so many more women over 50. The real interesting female demographic (14-35 year old women) is short in supply, and has less members than it's same age male counterparts, unless we are in times of war. Not all men are destined to reproduce. You have to be more confident, charming, aggressive, imposing, witty, humorous and empathic than other men to reproduce. Men should always remember that.
Posted by: Gannon | November 26, 2007 at 04:42 PM
Marrying average women off at a young age to average men constituted a form of sexual socialism which motivated every men to work hard for society. It's no surprise that christianity strengthened monogamous marriage and at leastly partly to that institution western society overtook the polygamous islamic world, which was more advanced than the west during the early middle ages.
Posted by: Gannon | November 26, 2007 at 04:52 PM
roissy:
"bingo.
why do so many young, single women vote democrat? "
Trick question! Everyone knows young, single women don't vote. :)
Posted by: DML | November 26, 2007 at 07:22 PM
Woman shortage? What woman shortage!? I presume it means there not enough women good-looking enough to have sex with around to date. There are plenty of single ugly women no guy would have a relationship no matter how lonely they are. I'm sure women argue likewise there's a man shortage. But of course there's plenty of single guys either woefully out of shape or socially-terminal nerds. Maybe it's the 80/20 - only 20% of men and women are dateable and have the ability to carry their superior genes to the next generation.
Posted by: Gil | November 26, 2007 at 09:16 PM
I doubt it. Most people eventually get married.
Posted by: SFG | November 26, 2007 at 10:01 PM
BTW, did anyone notice the bit at the end about how they are big supporters of the NPD? Their website (www.npd.de) tells us they're 'Social' and 'National'. Hmmm...to tie several popular topics on this blog together, maybe where talking about race and IQ can't bring Hitler back, the Woman Shortage can?
(Seriously, apparently most of the Germans hate these guys. Makes Germany look bad.)
Posted by: SFG | November 26, 2007 at 10:09 PM
For girls, the ideal is to find a guy who is decent, loyal, and has a good job. There's not enough of these guys to go around. So there's a man shortage.
For guys, the ideal is to find a few young hotties. There's not enough of these girls to go around. So there's a woman shortage.
Who has it worse? Definitely girls.
Posted by: brazil84 | November 26, 2007 at 10:12 PM
Maybe it's the 80/20 - only 20% of men and women are dateable and have the ability to carry their superior genes to the next generation.
It's not that low. I'm not sure if I'd try to guess the actual percentages, however.
Posted by: Peter | November 26, 2007 at 10:35 PM
There have been a fair number of comments on this blog and elsewhere recently about the tendency for women choose to hold out for an "alpha" male and how feminists are pro-polygamy in a subtle sense.
If this is all true, I wonder to what extent the many centuries of monogamy have taken a toll on the white race. Perhaps white males just aren't as appealing to women as they were 1500 years ago due to a dysgenic consequence of what Gannon in a previous comment called "sexual socialism."
It seems strange to me how deep and pervasive the effects of political correctness have been throughout the West. It has been said that whites could cease to exist as a distinct group in the next century due to demographic decline and the mixing of the races in what are currently majority white countries. What could cause a group of people to collectively act this way? Here are three theories:
1) The blogger Conservative Swede has suggested that it is a result of Christianity reaching the end of its life cycle, but he seemed to be speaking of a cultural effect, not a biological effect. He says that political correctness is like Christianity where instead people now find redemption through capitulation to the "other."
2) At American Renaissance it has been suggested that political correctness can be explained in terms of an instinct for "competitive altruism" with a biological basis.
3) At The Inverted World it was recently suggested that it is humility that sets the white race apart, both in terms of their success over the centuries and their more recent susceptibility to self-terminating political correctness.
The list could continue. If one believed in supernatural effects one might think that the white race was literally under some sort of spell.
Returning to the original point, however, what if the white race has just been genetically exhausted by monogamy? Could this explain the mentality of both male and female liberals? What then? Is there any hope? Could a return to polygamy be the answer, or is it too late?
Posted by: Hal K | November 26, 2007 at 11:32 PM
One thing that I forgot to make clear in my previous comment is that it is immigration that is most directly leading to the disappearance of the white race as a distinct group and that it is the politically correct mentality that allows this to happen.
Posted by: Hal K | November 26, 2007 at 11:55 PM
You have to be more confident, charming, aggressive, imposing, witty, humorous and empathic than other men to reproduce.
Things have gotten grim on this thread so I'll weigh in as a proponent of the "for every pot there is a lid" school. Many women want the same thing we want. If you are out there and available, then eventually you will find the right women for you.
Not to pick on DA, but since he is a nome de plume anyway, he has like a 5% chance of finding the right women since he has already decided that everyone worthwhile will reject him. Meanwhile I have been to the weddings of a couple of lazy eyed dudes..... goes to show you that in order to end up in the blessed state you have to date first.
Posted by: Turambar | November 27, 2007 at 12:38 AM
Oh, HS. You would neglect to mention it's a shortage for "young layabouts."
As follows:
Young layabouts suffer a drought
... The effects are worrying, not only because populations may shrink but also because of the existence of a growing underclass of young men who are partnerless, underqualified and jobless.
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Girls are more studious than boys, so they get better qualified and migrate west to find both partners and jobs. The boys lack role models at home, where fathers are often unemployed, and at school, where teachers are mostly female. Young men now account for 65% of German high-school dropouts.
The few women who stay prefer single parenthood to hitching themselves to useless partners—benefits for single mothers are generous.
Most of you Woman Shortage proponents claim women are overlooking stable, desirable potential husbands and fathers in their quest for the elusive alpha. This article fails to support that theory.
Posted by: Spungen | November 27, 2007 at 12:51 AM
Maybe it's the 80/20 - only 20% of men and women are dateable and have the ability to carry their superior genes to the next generation.
It was discussed here recently that humanity is descended from 40 percent of men and 80 percent of women. So it's not a new thing for most men to be excluded from the gene pool. Yet some people seem to think it's a dire problem.
Posted by: Spungen | November 27, 2007 at 12:57 AM
Yet some people seem to think it's a dire problem.
for civilization, perhaps.
after all, that unlucky sexless 60% of men lived during a rather brutal epoch.
but we needed them to sacrifice for the greater future good.
heh.
Posted by: roissy | November 27, 2007 at 01:08 AM
Bleh! In the critter world only about 10 - 20% of critters in the wild make it to reproductive maturity and sire the next generation. This culling of 80 - 90% of the defective majority help to keep wild critters at their genetic optimum. It's only in captivity and caring humans do the slacker critters get to reach maturity and sire half-assed offspring and you get to see critters that ultimately wouldn't appear in the wild. So too over the ages harsh living has led to the best people to reach sexual maturity and create an inadvertent eugenics of sorts. It could be argued with egalitarian and socialist values, many slackers who would have starved in times past are living and, even worse, reproducing. Has H.S. considered the percentage of dolts to productive citizens ratio and seeing if the dolts are getting more numerous whereas the productive citizens are disappearing due to the tax and welfare burdens they are placed with?
Posted by: Gil | November 27, 2007 at 01:21 AM
Not to pick on DA, but since he is a nome de plume anyway, he has like a 5% chance of finding the right women since he has already decided that everyone worthwhile will reject him. Meanwhile I have been to the weddings of a couple of lazy eyed dudes..... goes to show you that in order to end up in the blessed state you have to date first.
Well, you did bait me with your comments :)
As with every product, sometimes pieces are missing or don't fit together, and I suspect that I may fall under that situation. You've pointed out that your married lazy eyed friends found partners, but I suspect that they lowered their standards considerably and aimed for partners with some type of physical, social, or mental defect. One could also imagine that they live in boring, sexless marriages with ugly children. For some, they can take being degrading in such a fashion while for others, being single is saving them from the indignity of marriage to ugly partner. In our modern world, there's no need for marry an unattractive female partner when there's porn for sex and illegal immigrant labour if one is too lazy to cook and clean for themselves.
Personally, since there's there's little chance of me completing a masters degree program by 25, I've more or less given up on finding a (white) woman. My low social standing, bizzare and sometimes racially biased tastes, and various other logistical barriers simply making finding an attractive woman of good social standing nearly impossible, and it may be best to simply give up on this fruitless endeavour and to re-appropriate money that would have been spent in this area on myself or my loved ones.
Posted by: The Ghost of David Alexander | November 27, 2007 at 03:16 AM
By the way, in East Germany in rural parts there is a very real woman shortage because 1/3 of the women (the brighter, prettier,younger more ambitious ones) move to West Germany.
Posted by: Gannon | November 27, 2007 at 06:45 AM
In America, if you have kids out of wedlock, the state pursues the father for the public aid expenses it incurs. So, fathering offspring is not a free ride.
So, what happens when a male "pill" is finally available to the public? Watch birth rates collapse.
Posted by: Russ | November 27, 2007 at 07:35 AM
So, what happens when a male "pill" is finally available to the public? Watch birth rates collapse.
Yes, the risk to men of contraception fraud is probably now greater than the risk to women of "deadbeat dad."
But, in the spirit of this blog, wealthy, high IQ men have the most to lose, the future-orientation to plan such things, and the money to buy it. So expect fewer Tim McGraw incidents (Tim idolized Tug as a pitcher for years before being told that Tug was his father) but little reduction in the fatherhood rates of illiterate career criminals with zero wages to garnish.
Posted by: K | November 27, 2007 at 08:17 AM
Most of you Woman Shortage proponents claim women are overlooking stable, desirable potential husbands and fathers in their quest for the elusive alpha. This article fails to support that theory.
In some respects the situation in Eastern Germany described in the article is similar to that in black communities in the United States. There's also a very big difference, as the generally more ambitious and educated women from Eastern Germany can go to other parts of the country and find non-layabout men. Black women in America don't have an analogous option.
Posted by: Peter | November 27, 2007 at 09:38 AM
It was discussed here recently that humanity is descended from 40 percent of men and 80 percent of women. So it's not a new thing for most men to be excluded from the gene pool. Yet some people seem to think it's a dire problem.
Lets not pine too much for the old days because those rates were probably the result of things that dont make for a stable society- such as high male mortality,rampant diseases such as mumps, large scale rape, and female infidelity.
The Rape of Nanking and the sack of Baghdad by Hulagu Khan did quite a bit to rebalance the local gene pool.
Posted by: Turambar | November 27, 2007 at 09:42 AM
In some respects the situation in Eastern Germany described in the article is similar to that in black communities in the United States.
It's similar to white communities in the U.S. In the U.S., women are much more likely to move out of less desirable communities. Men are more likely to stay put.
Posted by: Half Sigma | November 27, 2007 at 11:49 AM
It's similar to white communities in the U.S. In the U.S., women are much more likely to move out of less desirable communities. Men are more likely to stay put.
I know that white women in America are more likely to move to cities, call it the Sex and the City effect, but is there a more general propensity on their part to move out of less desirable communities?
Posted by: Peter | November 27, 2007 at 12:32 PM
This is also related to the old trend that women prefer urban areas leaving farmers in rural areas without options. 95 % of women hate farm work.
Posted by: Gannon | November 28, 2007 at 07:17 AM