Trig is not Sarah Palin's baby?

This is so weird that it has a high probability of truth. Palin does not look six months pregnant in the photo on this web page.

In addition to the facts mentioned above, I want to point out how unlikely it is for a 43-year-old woman to accidentally get pregnant. Most 43-year-old women can't get pregnant even with tens of thousands of dollars of fertility treatments. (Only 10% of 43-year-old women seeking fertility treatments are able to get pregnant. source)

Read this blog post about how strange the story of Trig's birth is. The author of the post was apparently unaware of the rumors that the child isn't really Sarah's.

If Sarah's daughter Bristol got pregnant, why didn't Sarah just take her to an abortion clinic on the sneak? Oh, because they actually believe in that Christian stuff.

But then, why this Big Lie? Oh, because it would be really embarrassing to someone campaigning for wholesome family values to reveal that her daughter has been having premarital sex.

Doesn't the Bible also say "Thou Shalt Not Lie?" I guess Christians can selectively ignore the Ten Commandments if it helps their political ambitions.

Did McCain know about this? The good news is that this is coming out now, so there's still time for McCain to dump her before the convention.

UPDATE

Is Sarah Palin pregnant in this photo?

UPDATE 2

The following is from an Anchorage Daily News article dated March 6th.

That the pregnancy is so advanced astonished all who heard the news. The governor, a runner who's always been trim, simply doesn't look pregnant.

Even close members of her staff said they only learned this week their boss was expecting.

"I thought it was becoming obvious," Palin said. "You know, clothes getting snugger and snugger."

But people just couldn't believe the news.

"Really? No!" said Bethel state Rep. Mary Nelson, who is close to giving birth herself.

"It's wonderful. She's very well-disguised," said Senate President Lyda Green, a mother of three who has sometimes sparred with Palin politically. "When I was five months pregnant, there was absolutely no question that I was with child."

Comments

[Gannon]

It's extremely unlikely that the baby is Bristol's. The baby has down, a typical disease of old 35 plus mothers. Bristol is very attractive by the way, definitively the kind of girl I would make love to. This by the way proves my theory that the US is a sick society: instead of focusing on the young nubile marriageable daughter I only hear MILF BS.

[James Miller]

If this is true it makes her an even BETTER running mate for McCain.

It shows her devotion to her children. Also, her deception hurt no one and was obviously done to help her daughter.

If the McCain people knew about this before they selected her, they probably considered it a plus factor and hoped it would come out before the election.

If true, evangelicals will love her, donate huge amounts to McCain and turn out in record numbers.

[Gannon]

Willow is the 14 year old, right? She looks pretty good too, give her two more years and she will be amazing.

[Gannon]

Here you have a politician who has two really beautiful daughters: Megan Mccain is just barely above average HalfSigma, although obviously much better suited ofr your age.

[Brick Oven Bill]

If true, when the pressure groups demand to see Tirg’s birth certificate, all she needs to do is say that she’ll trade Trig’s for Obama’s.

It doesn’t make sense though. Why would she have said anything in Texas? She probably would have quietly gone back to Alaska.

[Christopher Tracy]

I don't know when this picture was taken, but look at Bristol's stomach:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_eeBrCFDUUOc/R9SMzjkqrLI/AAAAAAAAAUw/thEnzs9T7GY/s1600/PalinFamily.jpg

Either way, this makes for an interesting story.

[whiskey]

Stupid rumor. Plenty of photos available online of a very pregnant Palin before her kids birth.

Go ahead, attack an older woman for having a Down's syndrome baby. See how that plays out with female voters.

Palin is the "Andrew Jackson" class, frontier entrepreneur, and thus creates fury in the terminally hip, trendoid "Stuff White People Like" class. Thus the stupid rumors.

Which is the huge fault-line in American politics: Stuff White People Like + Aggrieved Minorities vs. Working/Middle Class whites.

[amir]

The main problem previously fertile women have when they reach their forties is egg quality, which is also why they are more likely to have Down Syndrome babies. Fertility treatments can increase the number of eggs that reach maturity any given month but not improve the quality of the egg. Therefore, fertility treatments, other than egg donation, do not significantly increase the chance of pregnancy in older women. Down syndrome babies also tend to be smaller than regular babies and that may explain a smaller stomach for the mother.
But the theory is intriguing.

[dreamin]

Actually, I believe the Bible says "thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor."

But anyway, like other people say, Down's syndrome is the signature disease of births after the mother is 40. From what I understand, Down's is extremely rare among young mothers; gets more and more common as the mother approaches 35; and becomes very common thereafter.

[PA]

"--I guess Christians can selectively ignore the Ten Commandments if it helps their political ambitions"

Comments like that make you sound like a callow nerd.

[Half Sigma]

" Plenty of photos available online of a very pregnant Palin before her kids birth."

So why not post a link to one of these photos and put the story to rest?

No one has been able to find a pregnant photo.

[Average Prole]

Won't be a liability with the "wrong kind of white people."

[brill]

"Oh, because they actually believe in that Christian stuff."

No, this is the comment that made him look like a callow nerd.

[Brick Oven Bill]

Datapoints from a spouse who, unbeknownst to me obsesses over this stuff:

At 33, odds of Downs Syndrome is one in one thousand
At 44, odds of Downs Syndrome is one in twenty five
At 17, odds of Downs Syndrome is way less than one in a thousand

Admittedly potentially-faked photo:

http://alaskareport.com/images31/palin_pregnant.jpg

[rory]

Me again.

Trig was born at Mat-Su Regional Hospital. You have to understand how small town it is here in Alaska. It would of been virtually impossible for Governor Palin to have kept this big of a secret in a place like the Valley (what we in Anchorage call Wasilla and Palmer). There would be nurses, orderlies, doctors, etc... who would of all had to agree to keep the secret. She is popular, but not that popular.

Then again if she did manage to pull of the switch, she is certainly qualified to lead the intelligence services.

[Jack]

You know Keith Olbermann and MSNBC will jump all over this shit...we need to get this bitch off the ticket.

[David Alexander]

"Down's syndrome is the signature disease of births after the mother is 40"

Bristol + Alcohol during Pregnancy = ???

[amir]

She looks pregnant here.
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://alaskareport.com/images48/trig_paxon_van_palin.jpg&imgrefurl=http://alaskareport.com/news48/x61145_trig.htm&h=290&w=199&sz=15&hl=en&start=3&sig2=rdV__lQs9lAJSeGifw81WA&usg=__MoyH1R943r78Sjteiw-96V_BPWI=&tbnid=V2rIEH7FwPMgTM:&tbnh=115&tbnw=79&ei=N5e5SOW-Moyc0QSF44CjAw&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dtrig%2Bpalin%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den

[Gannon]

Alcohol during pregnancy can cause:

Small body size and weight

Slower than normal development and failure to "catch up."

Deformed ribs and sternum

Curved spine and hip dislocations

Bent, fused, webbed, or missing fingers or toes

Limited movement of joints

Small head

Facial abnormalities

Small eye openings

Skin webbing between eyes and base of nose

Drooping eyelids

Nearsightedness

Failure of eyes to move in same direction

Short upturned nose

Sunken nasal bridge

Flat or absent groove between nose and upper lip

Thin upper lip

Opening in roof of mouth

Small jaw

Low-set or poorly formed ears

Organ deformities

Heart defects or heart murmurs

Genital malformations

Kidney and urinary defects

Central nervous system handicaps

Small brain

Faulty arrangement of brain cells and connective tissue

Mental retardation -- occasionally severe

Learning disabilities

Short attention span

Irritability in infancy

Hyperactivity in childhood

Poor body, hand, and finger coordination

However, it does not cause Down Syndrome. Down Syndrome is a genetic disease caused by a trippled chromosome (should be double).
Alcohol doesn't alter a babie's genes.

[Jack]

The age thing is the only factor in favor of the explanation that the baby is really Sarah's. But - it's a pretty big factor according to the statistics. Still, it is something to look into further.

[zai]

The rumors, if they stay that unfounded but only get louder, will actually help the McCain camp when it comes to when.
What people just don't get is that after a particularly emotional episode (Hillary Obama tussle), women hold on to the grouse for a long time, not because they are vindictive, but because they are just not built to weigh in longer term goals. Imminent outcomes are more important and they provide the anchoring for any decision.
Palin now replaces Hillary as the anchor, and this is now Palin versus Obama, which is far more winnable for Obama.
This is because women HATE younger women; they are mating threats even if they are a zillion miles away, and someone who seems to have it all is labeled a threat in more malicious terms.
Obama's camp will have much more traction if she is painted as this really young, awesome, intelligent, and attractive woman.

The baby rumors go the other way and paint her as a martyr, being pilloried for all the usual sexist reasons and women will band together with her. Maternity, whether directly hers or her daughter's elicits a really strong empathy. She'll be considered a hero both ways, so it would be better for democrats to ignore this aspect and paint her the new seductive vixen in town.

[I hatetheright]

Research is showing the the risk of downs is high between 14 years of age and 19 years and then decreases from 20 to 25 years of age

[Gannon]

Research is showing that there are a lot of gulible idiots who believe feminist bullshit. Mothers aged 14 plus have perfectly healthy. Really young mother's, aged 11-13 however can have babies with inmature organs and low weight. Down is produced because of a genetical defect which can happen as the eggs age. Women do not produce eggs, like men produce sperm, but have a definite number when they are born.

[freak show]

both the parents seem to be better looking than most of the kids- the parents seem quite above average.

http://gov.state.ak.us/photos/PalinFamily_Outside_v01.jpg

[Peter]

It was the teenage daughter's baby.

Oh Gannon, how was the weather in Alaska?

[Gannon]

You do realize Peter that you are flattering me by suggesting that I could get into bed with such a cutie like Bristol?
Thanks, really... The weather was cold by the way...

[mnjohn]

"Mothers aged 14 plus have perfectly healthy. Really young mother's, aged 11-13 however can have babies with inmature organs and low weight. "

As also evidenced that young teenage women get pregnant very very easily the way nature intended it to be. The age of consent should be 14.

[Adam]

I don't really buy into the whole conspiracy, but I like statistics.

Although the birth statistics are true, it is also true that 85% of children born with Downs Syndrome are born to mothers under 30 due to average ages of conception.
Since chance of conception declines by 95% after 45, and you were only concerned with a statistical analysis, that would require a re-weighing.

I do question her judgment though.

One thing that stands out is that after her first contractions, she got on a 10 hour plane flight and then an hour long drive. That probably isn't the best judgment. I'm not sure I'd want to get on a plane if I was going into labor.

[threadlessmess]

6 or 7 months pregnant in this video

http://alaskapodshow.com/index.php/2008/08/30/sarah-palin-pregnancy-scandal/

[threadlessmess]

6 or 7 months pregnant in this video

http://alaskapodshow.com/index.php/2008/08/30/sarah-palin-pregnancy-scandal/

[Spungen]

"Most 43-year-old women can't get pregnant even with tens of thousands of dollars of fertility treatments. (Only 10% of 43-year-old women seeking fertility treatments are able to get pregnant. source)"

The first sentence is not justified by the second. Use your logic, Sigma. The second sentence refers to women *with fertility problems*.

The fact that people believe women over 40 can't get pregnant would make a woman more likely to be lax about birth control.

According to the National Association for Down syndrome, "80% of babies born with Down syndrome are born to women younger than 35

[Ann]

Sorry but it's easy to stuff your shirt and then throw a jacket or sweater on to appear pregnant. However, when you look at Bristol's photo's from 2006 she was skinny. Then fast forward to when Sarah was supposed to be pregnant and it's Bristol who looks pregnant, and by the way Bristol wasn't wearing a jacket you could see it in a fitted shirt. So until I see a picture of Sarah wearing just a regular shirt instead of big jackets, or sweaters then I do believe it's her daughter. Sarah Palin pulled her daughter out of High School and the public eye due to mono, but I don't know any kid that gains weight ONLY in the boobs and belly from mono. PEOPLE WHO GO TO SCHOOL AND OTHER PEOPLE IN ALASKA HAVE BEEN TRYING TO TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT THIS STORY!

[49andcounting]

As someone who got pregnant at 43 I know a little about this subject. My doctor said that the statistics that show the low probabitlies of getting pregnant after 40 apply to women trying to have their first baby. Women who have had multiple pregnancies continue to be very fertile up to menopause. I find it extremely hard to believe that a governor could get away with a switcheroo like this. Not in this day and age. Also, I did not gain weight like I did in my other pregnancies and a lot of my friends and neighbors did not know I was pregnant either. I did aerobics (low impact) until I was 7 mos along. Everyone is different.

[pirate]

Here's a page with a picture of Palin pregnant with one of her other kids. She really shows that time. It's picture nine in the slideshow.
http://www.pixcetera.com/uschinese/election-2008-sarah-palin/30583

[Rain And]

Great find, pirate!

For those that don't want to click through the cumbersome Flash slideshow, here's the picture of Sarah Palin pregnant with one of her previous children. She looks like the Hindenburg.

http://i38.tinypic.com/24man4p.png

[veggiedude]

I find it hilarious that people who kill animals can use a label as 'pro-life' to describe themselves. More George Orwell's double speak.

[Patrick]

Someone said: "If this is true it makes her an even BETTER running mate for McCain."

If either story is true, that she had a child with Downs or her daughter did, it actually makes her a worse running mate for McCain. Why?

Because of the simple question: If she just had a child in April or June of this year why is she now going to run off to be Vice President for the first 4 years of this baby's life??? Shouldn't she be home taking care of her new born baby? Even if "home" is in Alaska being governor?

[d]

this is how she looked when she really was pregnant with her previous child.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/republican_race/galleries/sarah_palin_family_photos/sarah_palin_family_photos.html

[yarrrrr]

Game Over

http://www.polartrec.com/node/3944

[Rain And]

I already discussed that link in the other thread. That is the only testimony, and it's from after the pregnancy was publicly announced in March. Just a few weeks earlier her own staff were completely unaware that she was pregnant.

http://www.halfsigma.com/2008/08/daily-kos-diary-on-sarah-palin-pregnancy-cover-up.html

[Half Sigma]

Right you are Rain And. The polartrec reporter "knew" that Sarah Palin was pregnant, and people usually see what they think they know.

As usual, the governor is wearing a bulky coat so you can't tell anything -- and maybe she's wearing some stuffing underneath the coat to look more pregnant.

[Rain And]

Sort of like how people keep claiming to see a pregnant belly on Bristol Palin in a photo actually taken in 2006!

[Harley]

# David Says:
August 30th, 2008 at 7:51 pm

As a doctor, I don’t want to add to this discussion other than to clear of misinformation. Just this year a study came out and proved that having a child with Down Syndrome is not at all linked to age. I was at a conference last winter where the study was presented in full, and it has been published in many journals since then. A woman of any age can half a baby with downs at any time.

This is a post from a doctor from another site regarding Downs Syndrome

[chicagodoctor]

I am a doctor, so I know a few things about Down Syndrome risk and pregnancy. It's true that older mothers (aged 35 and above) have a higher risk of giving birth to a baby with Trisomy 21, commonly known as Down Syndrome, younger mothers also have a higher risk than the average women. So teen-agers, such as Bristol Palin, have a higher risk of giving birth to a baby with Down Syndrome and other genetic disorders. Trig Palin: who is your real mommy?

[Paul]

The NY York daily news picture cited at 7:26 not only shows a swelled tummy, but clearly a much fatter face of Sarah Palin than we see now. The ADN.com story of 3-05-08 also shows a clearly pregnant Palin at six months (2-26-08).

This Bristol Palin baby rumor is disgusting .Those who spread these lies like the nutter posters above are truly despicable and depraved. It shows just how much Palin threatens the loony and deranged left.

But how typical of the left! When one doesn't have a compelling and truthful argument for your position, a dishonorable and depraved person will resort to slimy and unfounded attacks on character.

[Rain And]

"The ADN.com story of 3-05-08 also shows a clearly pregnant Palin at six months"

I don't know what story you are talking about, but you are full of shit.

Read my links and quotes from contemporary observers:

http://www.halfsigma.com/2008/08/daily-kos-diary-on-sarah-palin-pregnancy-cover-up.html

NO ONE was aware that Palin was pregnant at 7 months. Palin obviously could not be "clearly pregnant" in any photo from before March. If Palin looked pregnant at all, her close staff, at the very least, would have realized it. They didn't. No one realized she was pregnant before she announced it. So how could you see it now?

Anyone that now sees pregnancy in photos dated before that time, must be guilty of confirmation bias.

[zabadu]

35% of ALL Down's Syndrome babies are to teenaged mothers.

It is a MYTH that only older women have Down's babies.

[Chris]

Oh really chicagodoctor? Are you sure you dont want to check you Robbins Pathological Basis of Disease? Maybe your Thompson and Thompson Genetics in Medicine? Or maybe you could just admit youre not an actual doctor?

But really, I want to know your basis for thinking that non-disjunction in oogenesis has a higher likelihood in a teenage mother.

[Ashley]

Hello... Don't you all remember Nicole Kidman? Eight months preggers and hardly a bump.(picture via link in this post)Heh, a celeb reference? Might catch yalls attention.

Some women hardly gain while pregnant, every body is different. I am sure that Palin discovered early on that she was carrying a down baby, they can pick up indicators during scans, and especially at her age they check for down's symptoms in sonograms, and have blood and amniotic tests done to dectect the extra chromosome. I am sure her and her husband were dealing with this the best they could for themselves, and didn't want to immediatly revel there pregnancy status as it was.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1025705/Still-gym-Eight-months-pregnant-Nicole-Kidman-teeny-bump-hit-gym-workout.html

[slwerner]

Ashley - "Hello... Don't you all remember Nicole Kidman? Eight months preggers and hardly a bump.(picture via link in this post)"

Excellent work! Some of the pictures being debated herein show Sarah Palin looking more pregnant at 6-7 months than Kidman looked at 8 months.

[Rain And]

"Some of the pictures being debated herein show Sarah Palin looking more pregnant at 6-7 months than Kidman looked at 8 months."

Only to people who are primed to believe Palin is pregnant in those photos. To me she doesn't look pregnant in those photos, but I'm biased too. Luckily we have a natural experiment to cancel out our mutual biases: the people who she met and interacted with back in Feb. and March 2008, who weren't informed that she was 6-7 months pregnant. They DID NOT see she was pregnant.

We don't have that kind of amazing control group for Kidman, but we don't need it either, because, unlike Palin, there are plenty of pictures of an unambiguously pregnant Kidman.

http://celebrities.gearlive.com/blogimages/nicolekidman_pregnant.jpg

[Stupid people suck]

My well educated mother gave birth to ME when she was 44 (I was not planned either). It happens, even with birth control. If she lied then it will be found out, easily. It is just a rumor at this point and real evidence has not been presented. Show evidence. It is the height of stupidity to say she could not have had an unplanned child because of her age and or education. By the way my mother is a MD.

[Frank]

We don't need another retard in the White House.

[Rick Cain]

The possibility of downs syndrome is high in a teenaged girl if it is due to incest.

[Howard]

Huffington, Daily K0S, Newsvine and whoever else is running this story ... if this is a rumor, why are you publishing it? Do you also publish rumors about Obama ... like Obama being a muslim? It sounds like the kind of malicious reporting one would find in the National Enquirer. I wrongly assumed it would be beneath the journalistic integrity of these blogs. ... or, are they in the tank for Obama? I hope this story comes back to bite these smear mongers in the ass.

[william]

As a father of 4, I know that no woman in her right mind is going to take an eight hour plane ride whose water has broken and who is facing a high risk delivery.

I thought it was BS when I first read it. I know it is BS now.

[theresa]

nicole kidman clearly looks pregnant in those photos. and although our bodies have different makeups, you can't hide pregnancy in your face. our faces swell beyond belief when we become pregnant. lets face it...the woman wasnt pregnant!

[Ashley]

Nicole was also wearing a TRACK SUIT at 8 months pregnant... The magic that a wool coat, layers of clothing and long underwear can do for you... And not everyone's face swells up in pregnancy.

I guess if more women took more care of themselves during pregnancy and didn't pile on 30-40 lbs it wouldn't be such a news making event that a 40+ year old woman could have a baby without looking it.

She hikes and has 5 kids for gosh sakes...

[ANNE]

I do believe the child is her daughter's. My neice was 8 months pregnanat before we found out. She wore girdles, took diet pills and did not eat. The baby is not down, but does have other medical problems.

As a 41 year old who was a teenage mother, I commend Palin for raising her daughter's child. I can even understand the embarrasment the teen pregnancy could cause to a far right political conservative Christian govenor, who prides herself on "family values". However, I believe that the cover up an all of the lies ( water broke - 11 hours away from home/flew on a plane, but gsve a speech before she got on the plane and the whole MONO story) speak to character and the extent she would go to covering up.

We have seen the effects of a President/Vice President who lie and cover up mistakes. it is not good.

So the birth of the child nor the child is the issue....but the fabrication/lies are the issues. They indicate what she is capable of doing to cover up a preceived problem.

If the teen was pregnant they miss an opportunity to show the power of forgiveness and the grace of God.

[fredam]

Well, now that we know that 80% of DS births come from women under 30 yo, I would like to know how many of those births were as a result of incest and if there is a breakdown for the dad (father, brother, cousin etc.) I would like to know too.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080830163236AAFELWi

http://www.ds-health.com/issues.htm

http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/humannature/archive/2008/05/19/incest-and-delayed-motherhood.aspx

[Kim]

You are complete idiot! The picture of Bristol's belly is from 2006. The baby was born in 2008. Unless she's an elephant, there's not way that gut is a baby belly. Also, having had two children, I didn't start wearing maternity clothes until 7 months with either of my girls. Another thing, in the video posted, you can see baby belly when she's walking. She's on the smaller side, but you can see it. Finally, I know more women over the age of 40 who are getting pregnant than under the age of 30. You're a moron!

[Informed User]

Just in case any of you have not been informed, there is clear evidence that Sarah Palin is indeed the mother of her 5th child Trig:

http://celebrity.rightpundits.com/?p=4240

Watch the video that shows her at 7 months pregnant. Unless she has Eddie Murphy's make-up artist in Alaska, then she is clearly pregnant.

[elle]

digging from the trash heap

doesn't even belong for any discussion

attacking an innocent 17 year-old girl

saying she has a fat stomach

children of candidates should have hands off

look at nicole kidman, didn't even look pregnant at the end

2 weeks after, thin as a rail

those of you running with this trash are disgusting

if you have kids, think about their feelings if trash like this was posted about them

disgusting

[elle]

digging from the trash heap

doesn't even belong for any discussion

attacking an innocent 17 year-old girl

saying she has a fat stomach

children of candidates should have hands off

look at nicole kidman, didn't even look pregnant at the end

2 weeks after, thin as a rail

those of you running with this trash are disgusting

if you have kids, think about their feelings if trash like this was posted about them

disgusting

[elle]

digging from the trash heap

doesn't even belong for any discussion

attacking an innocent 17 year-old girl

saying she has a fat stomach

children of candidates should have hands off

look at nicole kidman, didn't even look pregnant at the end

2 weeks after, thin as a rail

those of you running with this trash are disgusting

if you have kids, think about their feelings if trash like this was posted about them

disgusting

[elle]

digging from the trash heap

doesn't even belong for any discussion

attacking an innocent 17 year-old girl

saying she has a fat stomach

children of candidates should have hands off

look at nicole kidman, didn't even look pregnant at the end

2 weeks after, thin as a rail

those of you running with this trash are disgusting

if you have kids, think about their feelings if trash like this was posted about them

disgusting

[elle]

digging from the trash heap

doesn't even belong for any discussion

attacking an innocent 17 year-old girl

saying she has a fat stomach

children of candidates should have hands off

look at nicole kidman, didn't even look pregnant at the end

2 weeks after, thin as a rail

those of you running with this trash are disgusting

if you have kids, think about their feelings if trash like this was posted about them

disgusting

[Clark]

This picture makes me wonder.... Looks to me like it might have been Bristols baby after all.

http://justjared.buzznet.com/2008/08/31/sarah-palin-downs-syndrome/

[Keith]

report: Bristol is 5 months pregnant

[Gina]

DAILY KOS ARE SCUM BAGS !!!
All you small minded people who are crucifying Governor Palin over the question of her fifth child, are just fueling a vicious smear campaign. Besides, if you want to exhibit your holier-than-thou attitude ... why don't you get even more angry at Obama, Michelle, and their children, for spending 20 years in an anti-American racist church, as well as associations with Farrakhan, Wright, Ayers, Rezko, etc.. These facts are much more relevant to the next administration, than the possibility of a loving mother taking the heat to protect her child and grandchild.

[Lee]

HOW MANY OF OBAMA'S CONSTITUENTS ARE SINGLE MOMS?
You know the Obama speeches about how fathers
need to be responsible and not abandon their
children's mothers. What hypocracy for Obama's
attack dogs to now smear Palin's family for their
daughters pregnancy.DAILY KOS ARE SCUM BAGS !!!
All you small minded people who are crucifying Governor Palin over the question of her fifth child, are just fueling a vicious smear campaign. Besides, if you want to exhibit your holier-than-thou attitude ... why don't you get even more angry at Obama, Michelle, and their children, for spending 20 years in an anti-American racist church, as well as associations with Farrakhan, Wright, Ayers, Rezko, etc.. These facts are much more relevant to the next administration, than the possibility of a loving mother taking the heat to protect her child and grandchild.

[Robby]

Chicagodoctor, as a doctor you should know the reason why older women are at increased risk in having a child with Down's syndrome. It all simply comes down to having less eggs which increases the probability that an egg which may have undergone meiotic nondisjunction will be fertilized. It's a game of chance.

And the reason why most down's syndrome case are by mothers under 35 is because child-bearing age is usually between 20-35.

[mommyof2]

Well, who are the idiots now? Sarah Palin has announced that her daughter is 5 months pregnant. Just goes to show you how Liberal minds think, they don't!

[Doreen]

Yes, Sarah looks pregnant in the photo.

[bozo]

Well, it's not sarah's, it's Bristols. I just got off the phone w/ a guy who lives 4 blocks from their house. The daughter was strung out on speed and was boozing during the 1st trimester.. that's where the brain damage occurred. She was pulled out of school as a cover up and to have the birth out of the public eye. So now she get's knocked up again, but it's not 5 months, it's more like 2.5 months. They can fudge a premature birth, they aren't going to backtrack on the 1st one..

Besides I can't imagine a political creature like palin letting a baby, especially a handicapped one, slide by w/out making huge political hay out of it.

[Truth of God!]

Gossip! Gossip! Gossip! He who has no sins step forward! He who has sins "Shut Your Mouth". Has this woman torn your family apart nationally. If you have proof then prove IT! Pictures are not proof; medical records are................

[Innocent]

I would gladly take a "Down Syndrome" child, mine, my daughter's, or anyones elses. This should never be an issue in electing a candidate. For all you "Liberals" read your history. Andrew Jackson "S....D" all his Black Slaves.
Clinton likes :W....'s" Actually, Clinton was a "C..T!

I think voting for Sarah Palin is much better than a "Terrorist" "Barack" who leaves his brothers in poverty.

Sarah Palin doesn't turn her back on family! Barack Obama would slit his brothers throats if they stood in his way!

[Anthromama]

You people are so ill-informed. I don't know what's going on with this baby and who his mother is or isn't , BUT.. Down's Syndrome is also common among very young mothers. And an older mother does not have as much trouble getting pregnant if she already has children. The high infertility you mention is in first-time mothers who have waited way too long to get going in the first place. The reason you don't hear about too many 44 yr old moms is that most women are DONE by then if they want a family. That's because they use BIRTH CONTROL AND FAMILY PLANNING. Now Sarah can do whatever her weird beliefs tell her to, but I resent that she wants to hold high office and interfere with what my beliefs tell ME to do.

[Turambar]

" BUT.. Down's Syndrome is also common among very young mothers. " if by 'common' you mean 1:1500.

17yo may be 'very young' mentally but its not biologically.

What are you all saying now. No way it is Bristols baby if she is having a baby in December. Shame on you!

[natnat]

I think it's great that people are making up these false stories and posting them online. All of us normal people now know who the kooks are. It is a biological impossibility that Sara Palin's daughter had this baby. Look at the timeline, not to mention the photos of Palin pregnant.

Keep it up Democrats! Paint yourselves as liars so that everyone can see the depths you will sink to. People have had enough photoshopped photos and fake stories. Every time a new one comes out, it pushes me further and further from the Obama camp. Sorry, but you miscalculated this time.

where do you come up with these lies????

[Jen]

Okay, I am a liberal and I'm from Alaska and am currently living there. I don't think Trig is Bristols baby. Trig is clearly Sarahs child. As for that person that stated that people in Alaska are "trying to get the truth out", ridiculous. I saw her in person while she was pregnant and she was clearly, very pregnant.

[Jen]

Bozo,

Down Syndrome is not caused by drinking or doing drugs. Simple fact.

And I really doubt you have a friend who lives 4 blocks from the Palins.

[joy]

Obama HAS posted his birth certificate on stopthesmears.com. I also think that the best way to clear the question about who the mom is to merely show the birth certificate.

[marion McDonald]

My problem is this is so obvious this is not her baby and the last thing we need is another person in the white house who thinks the American public is a bunch of saps that will believe every line of b.s given to them

[CJulian]

UMM if baby trig was born in April, and Bristol is 5 months pregnant she would have gotten pregnant again the same month she gave birth..That is VERY unlikely since it takes a couple months for you to ovulate after giving birth.And your usually too sore to have sex for about a month after anyway.Besides downs syndrome usually occurs in older mothers more than teen moms.

[Ginger]

My mother always said it is better to be thought a fool then to open your mouth and remove all doubt!

Get your facts straight before you post!
Most of medical research shows that pregnant older women are at high risk of giving birth to a Down Syndrome child. The risk of baby with Down Syndrome increases for the pregnant mother. Below is the statistics:

- Age 25+, 1 of 1300 Births (99.92% without Down Syndrome)

- Age 30+, 1 of 965 Births (99.90% without Down Syndrome)

- Age 35+, 1 of 365 Births (99.73% without Down Syndrome)

- Age 40+, 1 of 109 Births (99.08% without Down Syndrome)

- Age 45+, 1 of 32 Births (96.88% without Down Syndrome)

- Age 50+, 1 of 12 Births (91.67% without Down Syndrome)

Father is also a major contributor for Down Syndrome baby. Above 40 age father at high risk and the risk is double at the age of 55.

[Rolf Chakras]

Jesus sitting at the right hand of God, telling Sarah Palin she must favor the teaching of sexual abstinence to kids from other families, can't change the fact that she and her daughter Bristol enjoy having a shag from time to time. And that's great. Further, I think that Trig is Sarah's baby. But the Palins, John McCain, and the entire country would be a lot better off now if Sarah and her daughter had simply satisfied their sexual cravings by getting down and having a tribbing session, where they both let their hair down, suck each others' toes, and then bump donuts in a wanton display of spermless vulvar intimacy. Isn't that what America really wants to see? Yeah, those two - in a frenzy of mons-touching pelvic windmills - should display love for the family until half of Alaska smells like anchovies and stump water. Unfortunately, that would likely put an end to the "Ron Jeremy for President" campaign. Well, you gotta compromise somewhere. I know, where's the money shot? Well, I hear from Bristol's boyfriend Levi that Bristol is a squirter, so we have that going for us. And that, my friends, is better than nice.

[Trina]

I believe that Sarah Palin is not that child's mother. In fact I believe thats Bristol's son and the whole scandal was to protect her own career.Disregarding her daughter feelings which is very sad. However I'm a healthy 28 year old with a 1 year old son who has down syndrome so not all cases of women over 40 and teenage girls only have children with down syndrome is true.

[Viv]

One of my good friends had a baby in April. She was born with downs as well. My friend was only 19 at the time. It is VERY possible for young women to have babies with downs.

[Angelique]

Ok this is utterly disgusting as one of Bristol's friends we know that Sarah was pregnant because we touched her big belly and saw it. As for Bristol yes she is pregnant with her current and only child. Why do people have to make up these hateful lies? They just need to stick to watching Day time Soap Operas instead of trying to make one out of other people’s lives.

It is really even worse that a girl has a right to choose when it comes to Lefty's but when a girl who has a mother that believes in pro-life is looked at like her mother was a bad mother. You have to be kidding me. We all make our own choices and have to live with them. Sarah has taught her daughter the best that she knows how. And whether Bristol chose to listen or not is Bristol’s business. Get over yourselves people!!!

[wilver]

Will someone please provide me with some evidence that Sarah Palin was pregnant within the last 14 months. I think that she is playing with the minds of the american people. We're not stupid.

[skeptical]

I am not a conspiracy nut. I don't have a vendetta against Sarah Palin, or John McCain (however in full disclosure I am supporting Obama). I don't share any moral platform with the outcries of "family values" on either side of this particular debate. I don't really care who the parents of Trig Palin are. This being said, I can't completely explain my obsession with the short lived / redacted life of this story as it broke over the internet over the last few days.

While I have no moral stake in this baby claim, I do feel these questions you have raised have not been adequately addressed by the McCain campaign (or the media for that matter) and represent a severe "ethical" dilemma in which the personal situations of our leaders takes precedence over the common good through lies, manipulation and abuse of power.

For these reasons I would like to share with you some information I have uncovered below regarding the "birth announcement" of Trig Palin. Sarah Palin was said to have delivered baby Trig at the Mat Su Regional Hospital, which in turn has no on line record of Trig Palin for the date of April 18th, 2008. There are two simple explanations for this; either the hospital administrators deliberately omitted this information from their online record, or, the baby was never delivered at Mat Su Regional.

There was however a baby delivered to parents "Amber" and "Levi" on April 18th at Alaska Regional Hospital (see links below), a mere 45 min. drive from Wasilla.

http://www.alaskaregional.com/cpm/w-index.html
scroll down to the link on April 18th, 2008

http://www.newbabynews.net/hospitals/akr22/babies/images/h22-3127-med.jpg

Here is another AP link to Trig Palin with his 'grandparents'......

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0eIA5qy1wt0Zw/340x.jpg

Striking resemblance? ....... I'll let you be the judge...

While I recognize that this is a bit of a stretch and that 'some of the names may have changed to protect the innocent'; it doesn't seem any more far fetched than the "facts" which have emerged from the McCain campaign. How do we know Bristol Palin is 5 months pregnant instead of 5 months post partum? Because the McCain campaign told us so. To date no one has produced a single piece of compelling evidence to put this story to rest. If the initial story was untrue, all the McCain campaign would have had to produce is a single photo of Sarah Palin and her family celebrating the birth of their newest child in the delivery room (not during mind you....) or in the recovery ward. Surely, there is family documentation of this special event.... If she is so content to wear her motherhood on her sleeve, than why shy away from sharing a photo from an innocent moment that every family could relate to.

Would it not have been so much easier to squash the rumor that Bristol Palin was not the mother of Trig by producing such a photo? Instead, the McCain campaign created a shell game for a current scandal by dragging Bristol Palin (and the media) into a future one.

[mike Ferguson]

I am not a conspiracy nut. I don't have a vendetta against Sarah Palin, or John McCain (however in full disclosure I am supporting Obama). I don't share any moral platform with the outcries of "family values" on either side of this particular debate. I don't really care who the parents of Trig Palin are. This being said, I can't completely explain my obsession with the short lived / redacted life of this story as it broke over the internet over the last few days.

While I have no moral stake in this baby claim, I do feel these questions you have raised have not been adequately addressed by the McCain campaign (or the media for that matter) and represent a severe "ethical" dilemma in which the personal situations of our leaders takes precedence over the common good through lies, manipulation and abuse of power.

For these reasons I would like to share with you some information I have uncovered below regarding the "birth announcement" of Trig Palin. Sarah Palin was said to have delivered baby Trig at the Mat Su Regional Hospital, which in turn has no on line record of Trig Palin for the date of April 18th, 2008. There are two simple explanations for this; either the hospital administrators deliberately omitted this information from their online record, or, the baby was never delivered at Mat Su Regional.

There was however a baby delivered to parents "Amber" and "Levi" on April 18th at Alaska Regional Hospital (see links below), a mere 45 min. drive from Wasilla.

http://www.alaskaregional.com/cpm/w-index.html
scroll down to the link on April 18th, 2008

http://www.newbabynews.net/hospitals/akr22/babies/images/h22-3127-med.jpg

Here is another AP link to Trig Palin with his grandparents......

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0eIA5qy1wt0Zw/340x.jpg

Striking resemblance? ....... I'll let you be the judge...

While I recognize that this is a bit of a stretch and that 'some of the names may have changed to protect the innocent'; it doesn't seem any more far fetched than the "facts" which have emerged from the McCain campaign. How do we know Bristol Palin is 5 months pregnant instead of 5 months post partum? Because the McCain campaign told us so. To date no one has produced a single piece of compelling evidence to put this story to rest. If the initial story was untrue, all the McCain campaign would have had to produce is a single photo of Sarah Palin and her family celebrating the birth of their newest child in the delivery room (not during mind you....) or in the recovery ward. Surely, there is family documentation of this special event.... If she is so content to wear her motherhood on her sleeve, than why shy away from sharing a photo from an innocent moment that every family could relate to.

Would it not have been so much easier to squash the rumor that Bristol Palin was not the mother of Trig by producing such a photo? Instead, the McCain campaign created a shell game for a current scandal by dragging Bristol Palin (and the media) into a future one.

[Dennis]

You guys are so horrible just leave them alone about there babies and daughters. Why don't you guys do what Obama told us to do and leave the kids out of it. Wait it is because we always have to have something to gossip about and make theories up about. Well guess what if Obama wins it's not going to matter what happens with Palin and her family to any of us, because we will be more worried about Paris Hilton or some other media icon. And if McCain wins well we really can't impeach McCain because we don't think Trig is Palin's baby. So get over it, and stick to the issues. But I guess we would not be human if we didn't make up gossip and theories now would we. Get over yourselves and grow up!!

[knowledge]

For you Sarah haters, YES, SHE DOES LOOK PREGNANT. I had a down syndrome child at 42. I had normal twins at 47. It is silly to say it is so hard to get pregnant at that age that it didn't happen. Trust me, it is VERY VERY hard to get pregnant at that age, but there are people like me who find a way to do it, with God's help. (The real issue, is she has substance, which is hated because it contradicts liberal emptiness.) PS: I looked like I was carrying one baby when I carried two, because my abdominals are so excellent. It happens, that some people have used their core muscles and have remained toned their whole life. These speculations are foolishness.

[knowledge]

Chicago doctor is not a doctor. Women over 40 are ususally done having babies, so they use birth control, and their fertility decreases dramatically. Of those who do get pregnant, the percentage is about 4%, at age 44, for down syndrome. This is very high. Even though the younger women may have more ds as a whole merely because they are having more babies and populating the earth, but the percentage is one in so many thousands, and odds are extremely low.

I wore black when I was pregnant at 47 with twins to look smaller. I was 5 months pregnant with twins, and no one knew I was pregnant. Professionals wear suits instead of tent dresses as well. Keep in mind Sarah Palin did have her baby a little early, which keeps down size. Often ds babies are smaller than normal babies.

I have a ds baby as well. For those misinformed people Bristol was 5 months pregnant in August. Sarah had her baby in April. You do the math. Duh!

[dan]

knowledge...you are a bit light up top i would say..how do you know bristol is 5 months preg?..because the mccain camp said so??