No Palin medical records

Palin still hasn't released any medical records. Andrew Sullivan writes:

Why does Sarah Palin refuse to prove that her baby - the baby that has been a campaign prop for two months - is actually one she gave birth to? Remember what we have been told by a McCain source about Palin:

"She does not have any relationships of trust with any of us, her family or anyone else."

If her own family doesn't trust her, why should we? I'm begging the McCain campaign to make me look like a total fool for even wondering. Please, blow my skepticism out of the water. Prove I'm full of "crazy shit."

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He already looks like an total fool.

There isnt one vote that will turn either way on her releasing records. This is the phoniest of phony issues.

[Patrik]

Oh. No. Mr. Bareback Hysterical himself, Andrew Sullivan?

But I agree, she should release the birth records just as BHO should release his grades and test scores and show the world that he is not the affirmative action black that we know he is.

[Dan]

Patrick, by all accounts, Obama was at the top of his class at Harvard Law school, so if he didn't deserve to be there, niether did his white peers.

And btw, can you name a single president in the history of America who released their LSAT scores? George W. Bush applied for Texas law, but never heard what his LSAT scores were. Hillary flunked the bar exam, but never heard what her LSAT scores were or her SAT scores. Bill Clinton was said to be the smartest person in any room but no LSAT scores or SAT scores. Jimmy Carter was described by Charles Murray as the smartest president in the last 50 years, but no test scores.

You are simply assuming Obama must be mediocre because he's half black. You have no other evidence whatsoever except that he attended a less than perfect college out of high school and he failed to get perfect marks at Columbia. That's like arguing Tim Robbins can't possibly be 6'5" because he never played in the NBA. Your logic is absurd.

We've seen Obama debate dozens of times against some very skilled people, we've seen him write some of the best speeches in American history and we've seen him go head to head against the toughest most aggressive talking heads (i.e. Bill O'reilly). If after all that evidence, you're still not convinced he is brilliant then you are being deluded by your own prejudice.

Dan,
We are always told that Obama is a fucking brilliant genius. Why the reluctance to show us the evidence and have it be done with? I'm not interested in what other presidents may or may have not done or how he has done in debates with aggressive talking heads. That's TeeVee and doesn't mean shit. Obama is held up as being extraordinary and extraordinarily bright. This is an easy thing to prove, very easy. What is there to hide?

[Patrik]

@Dan

Unfortunately, you, like the rest of the sheeple have no bullshit lens with which to view MSM propaganda, moreover, you are ill-informed.

****You are simply assuming Obama must be mediocre because he's half black.****

I don't assume that BHO is mediocre b/c he is 1/2 black. In fact, I don't think he is mediocre, but I do think his intelligence is vastly (at least one order of magnitude) overrated and overestimated as white guilt will cause the sheeple to always overstate and overestimate a well-spoken black's intelligence.

****You have no other evidence whatsoever except that he attended a less than perfect college out of high school and he failed to get perfect marks at Columbia. That's like arguing Tim Robbins can't possibly be 6'5" because he never played in the NBA. Your logic is absurd.****

My logic is the same logic that the media use to estimate Bush's, Gore's, Kerry's, and McCain's intelligence i.e. let's see what the scraps of hard data such as test scores and grades can tell us about the candidate's intelligence.

We do have quite a bit of scholastic data on McCain, Bush, Kerry and Gore BTW. See here:

http://www.halfsigma.com/2008/10/sarah-palin-is-stupid.html#comment-136950621

http://www.halfsigma.com/2008/10/sarah-palin-is-stupid.html#comment-136947977

But let's go to the facts of what we know:

We don't know his SAT scores.

He went to a third-rate college, Occidental, out of a first-rate high school, Punahou.

He then transferred to Columbia where he graduated without honors with a political science degree.

We don't know his Occidental/Columbia GPA nor his LSAT scores.

Some time later, after graduating w/o honors, he was SOME-FUCKING-HOW accepted at Harvard Law, the most prestigious law school in the country!?!!?!

Many say he graduated magna cum laude (no small feat), including the owner of this blog, when BHO himself makes no mention of it on his website nor his linkedin profile.

Until we know more, this points us to one conclusion:

He was most likely an affirmative action case. And much of success was due to his black skin, not his intelligence or hard work.

BTW this is very ironic (and perhaps galling to affirmative action promoters) considering he is NOT a descendant of African-American slaves (to whom the benefits of affirmative action policies are meant to accrue), but the son of a white American and a black African.

If this is such an outlandish cobbling of facts together, why not release the scores?

The burden of proof is upon BHO and his many sycophants such as yourself, Dan.

[Dan]

"I don't assume that BHO is mediocre b/c he is 1/2 black. In fact, I don't think he is mediocre, but I do think his intelligence is vastly (at least one order of magnitude) overrated and overestimated as white guilt will cause the sheeple to always overstate and overestimate a well-spoken black's intelligence."

Actually I think whites tend to underestimate the intelligence of blacks generally speaking. Obama is the exception because he's Harvard educated & many in the Ivy league educated media wants to protect the Harvard brand. But if Obama were not half white, I guarantee the media would have a much more condescending attitude towards him.

"But let's go to the facts of what we know:

We don't know his SAT scores.

He went to a third-rate college, Occidental, out of a first-rate high school, Punahou."

We also know he was an underachiever in high school, trying to gain acceptance from other blacks by not embracing "white values" like book learning. This was also around the time he did drugs.

"He then transferred to Columbia where he graduated without honors with a political science degree."

Have you any idea how low the correlation is between IQ and grades at elite schools, especially in subjects like political science? This proves almost nothing. I guarantee just from listening to Obama give detailed policy answers in interviews that he has the ability to ace any political science class.

"We don't know his Occidental/Columbia GPA nor his LSAT scores."

We don't know ANY presidents LSAT scores. In fact I don't think we know the LSAT score of a single congress person or governor in the entire country.

"Some time later, after graduating w/o honors, he was SOME-FUCKING-HOW accepted at Harvard Law, the most prestigious law school in the country!?!!?!"

That tells me he must have scored exceptionally high on his LSATs. If you say his grades were not great, than obviously he needed high LSAT scores to make up for them. Harvard Law is not going to accept someone who had both mediocre grades and mediocre test scores, so since we know he had mediocre grades, he could not have had mediocre test scores. You can argue affirmative action, but Harvard has first pick of the brightest black and near-black minds in the country, so not even blacks get in without high grades and high test scores. Obama's grades were not great, so his LSAT scores must have been exceptional.

"Many say he graduated magna cum laude (no small feat), including the owner of this blog, when BHO himself makes no mention of it on his website nor his linkedin profile."

Virtually no one doubts Obama's intelligence (except for you) so why would his campaign go out of their way to advertise his intellect? If anything, they are trying to avoid the elitist charge which is the political kiss of death. I personally watched a CNN special on Obama where one of his professors described Obama as "the best student I ever had, out of thousands and thousands of students". Now there's big difference between a good student and a good mind, but to have been the best out of thousands and thousands suggests that at the very least, he's smarter than the average white student at Harvard law.

"He was most likely an affirmative action case."

Affirmative action gets you in the door, but you still have to compete once you're there. And it's been repeatedly reported that Obama did not even put his race on his application.

And lots of Afro-multiracials get affirmative action benefits, but only Obama became the first African American president of the Harvard Law Review, and could become the first African American president. So he's probably much much smarter than the average affirmative action case, assuming he's an affirmative action case at all.

"BTW this is very ironic (and perhaps galling to affirmative action promoters) considering he is NOT a descendant of African-American slaves (to whom the benefits of affirmative action policies are meant to accrue), but the son of a white American and a black African."

It's all the same gene pool.

"If this is such an outlandish cobbling of facts together, why not release the scores?"

Because the Harvard brand is so powerful that people assume he's brilliant without seeing his scores. His IQ is probably 140, which while higher than 99.5% of America, and higher than most presidents, will not be impressive enough for his most elitist supporters, and many of the talking heads are probably pushing 150. By not releasing his scores, he allows his most worshipful fanatics to speculate that he is 160 or even 170.

[OE]

I think all of you tend to overestimate IQ and its importance in success. Obama is high, but I seriously doubt he is 150; I doubt even Clinton and Carter were 150. Also, there is no freaking way that any of the other candidates (McCain, Biden, Palin) are particularly high. McCain and Biden are probably above average but not by much (McCain's lack of facility w/ computers is a giveaway; it's not an age thing--anyone w/ a good analytical mind should be able to master computers).

[Jay Raskin]

Here is an honest article by somebody who is anti-Obama, but admits he is the most intellectually capable of all the candidates:
http://www.halfsigma.com/2008/09/obama-the-smartest-guy-in-the-race.html

If you are intelligent and do not have the intellectual credentials to back it up -- haters will call you an idiot.

If you are intelligent and do have the intellectual credentials to back it up -- haters will call you elitist.

Intellectual credentials should be accepted as they are, proof that you have a certain amount of intelligence. Lacking those credentials does not make you unintelligent, and having those credentials does not make you automatically right about any particular subject.

On the subject of academic credentials, Obama graduated magna cum laude (top ten percent)from Harvard, perhaps the most prestigious law school in the United States. McCain graduated from the Naval Academy in the bottom one percent. There is no question that academically Obama is the more qualified candidate by a wide margin.

[Patrik]

@Dan

********Have you any idea how low the correlation is between IQ and grades at elite schools, especially in subjects like political science?********

Funny. How BHO gets the benefit of "He's a really talented and smart kid, but isn't really trying." But Bush doesn't.

******We don't know ANY presidents LSAT scores. In fact I don't think we know the LSAT score of a single congress person or governor in the entire country.******

That's not the point. We don't know shit about his scholastic history. We do know that he didn't get good grades at Columbia.

******"Some time later, after graduating w/o honors, he was SOME-FUCKING-HOW accepted at Harvard Law, the most prestigious law school in the country!?!!?!"

That tells me he must have scored exceptionally high on his LSATs. If you say his grades were not great, than obviously he needed high LSAT scores to make up for them.******

That is a possibility. BUT a more simple explanation ala Occam is that he was accepted b/c he was black.

******Harvard Law is not going to accept someone who had both mediocre grades and mediocre test scores, so since we know he had mediocre grades, he could not have had mediocre test scores. You can argue affirmative action, but Harvard has first pick of the brightest black and near-black minds in the country, so not even blacks get in without high grades and high test scores.******

Are you high? Blacks get into Ivy Leagues all the time w/o high grades and high test scores. His wife being an example.

******Obama's grades were not great, so his LSAT scores must have been exceptional.******

That is one possible explanation, but not the most likely or simple. But if that is the case, why not release the scores?

******"Many say he graduated magna cum laude (no small feat), including the owner of this blog, when BHO himself makes no mention of it on his website nor his linkedin profile."

Virtually no one doubts Obama's intelligence (except for you) so why would his campaign go out of their way to advertise his intellect?******

Look, I know you and the rest of the sheeple are under the spell of a charismatic demogogue, but at least realize that I doubt his ostensible exceptional intelligence b/c which we have no scholastic evidence for it.

******I personally watched a CNN special on Obama where one of his professors described Obama as "the best student I ever had, out of thousands and thousands of students". Now there's big difference between a good student and a good mind, but to have been the best out of thousands and thousands suggests that at the very least, he's smarter than the average white student at Harvard law.******

Hahahahahhahahahahahah! Hahahahahahahhahahah! That is funny.

Because some sycophant heaps praise on the BHO, we are to believe he is a genius?

******"He was most likely an affirmative action case."

Affirmative action gets you in the door, but you still have to compete once you're there.******

No, you don't. These places make sure to do everything that you don't flunk out.

******And it's been repeatedly reported that Obama did not even put his race on his application.******

Uh-huh. Right....

******"BTW this is very ironic (and perhaps galling to affirmative action promoters) considering he is NOT a descendant of African-American slaves (to whom the benefits of affirmative action policies are meant to accrue), but the son of a white American and a black African."

It's all the same gene pool.******

You really are thick. Don't you get it? I am against affirmative action, but I were pro, I wouldn't want BHO receiving any b/c his ancestors didn't suffer at the hands of white americans like, say, Jesse Jackson's did. That is the raison d'être of affirmative action!

******If this is such an outlandish cobbling of facts together, why not release the scores?"

Because the Harvard brand is so powerful that people assume he's brilliant without seeing his scores. His IQ is probably 140, which while higher than 99.5% of America, and higher than most presidents, will not be impressive enough for his most elitist supporters, and many of the talking heads are probably pushing 150. By not releasing his scores, he allows his most worshipful fanatics to speculate that he is 160 or even 170.******

Good sophistry. But without any meaning.

The reason he won't release the data is that he knows that it will tell the truth about him and most people find affirmative action wrong.

******On the subject of academic credentials, Obama graduated magna cum laude (top ten percent)from Harvard, perhaps the most prestigious law school in the United States. McCain graduated from the Naval Academy in the bottom one percent. There is no question that academically Obama is the more qualified candidate by a wide margin.******

@Jay Raskin

You are wrong. We don't actually KNOW that BHO did graduate magna cum laude. (Why isn't it on his website or on his linkedin profile?) That is the rumor. We do know and McCain has admitted to graduating almost dead last from the Naval Academy.

[Patrik]

Read this article about how tough it is getting accepted to Harvard Law.

http://www.reason.com/news/show/128461.html

Libertarian Party vice presidential nominee Wayne Allyn Root:

Oh I was the bookie guy, don't worry about it.... But here's the story that I think the press should be digging up, I really mean this, about Barack Obama. When George Bush annoyed everyone the first thing they went to was how dumb he was, and they said how bad he did in Yale, and blah blah blah, he got a C average. Then they found his C average was better than Al Gore's average, and it was better than John Kerry's average!

Cavanaugh: And then you stopped hearing the story.

Root: Right. But the point is all three of them had C averages. I had a B-plus, A-minus average at Columbia University.

Welch: Wait, you're bragging on your GPA?

Root: No, no I'm not, because here's the moral to the story.... I had a B-plus, A-minus average at Columbia University, in four years. When I graduated, I took the LSATs and I did well. I didn't do great, I did well; B-plus, A-minus average.

>>>>>>My counselor at Columbia said don't even bother applying to Harvard Law School, because you can get into any law school in the country with your record, except Columbia, Harvard, Stanford, Princeton [Editor's Note: Princeton doesn't have a law school]. Except for the very top, you can get in anywhere, but don't even try those, because your grades don't cut it.>>>>...and he got in based on the color of his skin.>>>>Does anyone doubt that possibly Barack could have gotten into Harvard with a C average because he's black, where as I, white, couldn't get into the same school with a B-plus, A-minus average?<<<<<<

And yet his wife says that America is a terrible nation unfair to minorities! I say, Au contraire!

[Dan]

Patrick, in all due respect you have no idea what you're talking about. I just checked the Bell Curve, and blacks at Harvard average only 95 points lower than whites on their combined SAT (pg 452). This may correspond to as little as 6 IQ points. So the typical black at Harvard is very intelligent, and Obama is probably a lot smarter than the average black at Harvard, because A) Obama is not black, but multiracial B) Obama was a graduate student at Harvard C) Obama was the first African American president of the Harvard Law Review, and D) Obama is the most successful African American to ever attend Harvard.