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April 30, 2009

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No, people won't learn a thing. For all the value we ostensibly place on science, it's interesting how many political philosophies are still largely informed by voodoo. You've got Intelligent Design on the right, Gaiaism on the left, and then there's this Panglossian disregard for hard psychological facts like IQ in the middle. The mind boggles. Unless of course, everyone knows that the achievement gap has biological roots but it's become a political pawn that will forever be shuffled about to stir up support from different voting sectors.

HBD implies issues:

1) Whites don't really have the power of religious deities to go out and "cure" non-Asian minorities.

2) The American dream is really a fluke and only applicable to the high IQ whites and Asians. You average 100 IQ types don't count, and there aren't enough high IQ blacks to qualify then as anything other than flukes.

3) Non-whites are inferior, broken, and useless and have no place in a modern civilized nation.

Stigmata,

Do you know anything about the genesis of the term "achievement gap"? To me, that's interesting.

the real question is whether the gap is intractable: i.e., whether we can or can't close it. obviously, the gap can be closed to the extent it is attributable to environmental causes. as of today, direct evidence of "intelligence genes" is scant, but assuming a genetic component is causing some of the gap, how can we neutralize it? better breeding?

---"but assuming a genetic component is causing some of the gap, how can we neutralize it? better breeding?--

Marcus, where ya been? We covered that already down here:

http://www.halfsigma.com/2009/04/are-white-women-racist-for-wanting-to-date-white-men.html

You've got to marry a Sistah otherwise you're a Nazi/KKK/Bull Connor racist. Jewish Atheist said so. I asked him to report back when he marries a black babe and moves to Detriot. We've heard nothing yet, so I guess he's busy packing and getting ready to move.
Also, if you want back-up on this issue, Will Saletan advises the same thing. I keep expecting to hear he has divorced his current wife and married a black woman, but maybe he's saving up for a new engagement ring, so nothing yet.

"You've got to marry a Sistah otherwise you're a Nazi/KKK/Bull Connor racist. Jewish Atheist said so. I asked him to report back when he marries a black babe and moves to Detriot. We've heard nothing yet, so I guess he's busy packing and getting ready to move."

Liberals who discover HBD are VERY interesting to watch.

There are four main types of HBD believing liberals:

1) Jewish Atheist types who admit HBD is real but scream racist anyway and then run when a realist points out the facts.

2) Lefties who are so shocked by the implications of HBD that they go totatlly bonkers like blogger Robert Lindsay.

3) Lefties like Saletan who think there is something to HBD but who are devoting a sizable amount of brainpower to find ways of reconciling modern leftism with Darwinian evolution.

4) Academics who would normally be fire breathing lefties but who can't support equality of outcome leftism anymore because they (either privately or publicly) realize evolution has had a huge impact on recent human neurological development.

These academics either become political libertarians with conservative leanings or become much more nicer and sympathetic to conservatism than the average college professor.

I'm thinking specifically of Jonathan Haidt at UVA and Harvard's Steven Pinker.

HBD implies issues:

1) Whites don't really have the power of religious deities to go out and "cure" non-Asian minorities.

2) The American dream is really a fluke and only applicable to the high IQ whites and Asians. You average 100 IQ types don't count, and there aren't enough high IQ blacks to qualify then as anything other than flukes.

3) Non-whites are inferior, broken, and useless and have no place in a modern civilized nation.

Posted by: David Alexander | April 30, 2009 at 03:10 PM


David, you should change your screen name to Reductio Ad Absurdum

What's really fascinating is that they seem not to care about the fact that scores for students of all races improved. Apparently all they care about is the gap. I wonder if they'd have been happier if black students' scores had fallen and white students' scores had fallen faster.

"I wonder if they'd have been happier if black students' scores had fallen and white students' scores had fallen faster."

Nothing to wonder about, they would be. They'd be overjoyed. And it looks like Saletan has been busy on a column (not marrying a black woman).

http://isteve.blogspot.com/2009/05/poor-old-william-saletan.html

"David, you should change your screen name to Reductio Ad Absurdum"

Or reductio ad nauseum.

Or reductio ad nauseum [sic]

Steve, the Latin accusative is nauseam, a common error

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