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April 18, 2009

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True Blood on HBO does the vampire story much better. And with *plenty* of bodily fluid exchanging.

It's funny because I read that some prominent feminist(oxymoronic, I know) said that twilight was empowering because it shows that women get to choose their sexual partners nowadays rather than settle down with the proverbial beta male. Obviously the much more exciting and all around blood-sucking bad boy Edward Cullen is much more tantalizing than a beta male provider that women had to put up with in the old patriarchal days. I believe Whiskey had an entire post on this.

"SWPL vampires." lol.

game = vampiric upgrade.

I find it to be a bit unjust to base your opinion of the overall movie on your opinion of the story/book. If you called this a book review, it would be different, however that isn't the case.

You have every right to judge the book by its story, but I don't think it's fair to judge the film for the same reason. There are more features in a movie that make it good besides the plot. If you read the book and then watched the movie, you would see that it followed the storyline very well and as far as the movie itself goes, it was filmed in a beautiful location and succeeding in being what it was made to be: a movie based on a book written about a girl who falls in love with a vampire.

*I believe Whiskey had an entire post on this.**

The funny part is that the author of this series of books is a married Mormon mother of three. Whiskey generally places hope in the Mormons that they'd be immune to the demand for alphas, but apparently, Mormon women want alphas too.

*beta male provider*

If beta males are no longer tricked into relationships by women who only seek to use them, then beta males will become happier as they're free to enjoy their lives without being encumbered by lying wives who will cheat on them with alphas and take their money or children. Instead of lying to men about their chances, we should instead tell our young men that they are simply unattractive to 100% of the female population, and that the best course of action for them would be to enjoy their lives to the best of their abilities, and if possible, make the world a better place.

Uh - it doesn't matter if Mormon women are turned on by bad boy alphas. They are able to ignore their base, primal urges and marry betas at a young age.

Even been to Salt Lake City? It is full of nubile 19 year old Mormon girls married to responsible sober betas - typically either with one kid already or pregnant.

By the age of 30 these girls are still pretty good looking and have three to four well behaved kids.

The 1950's are alive and well and living in Salt Lake City.


Yes these young women may fantasize about violent alphas but they don't act on the fantasies

Notice how the main evil vampire is a man with blond hair. As Steve Sailer has written, Hollywood loves having Nordic-looking men as villains.

I have not read the book to see if Stephenie Meyer depicted him as blond, but the screenwriter Melissa Rosenberg did, or at least kept him blond as he was originally in the book (if he was blond in the book--again I do not know). I have always suspected that the depiction of blond men as villains stems from the fact that the Nazis considered blonds to be the ultimate in in terms of exhibiting ideal physical aesthetics, although only a small fraction of Nazis were blond; there was/is a much higher percentage in Northern Europe, who of course fought with the Allies.

Up with blond male Hollywood heroes! :)

Another opportunity the movie had to be interesting, if only for a second, was when Edward shows 'why he can't go into the light'. It's 'because his skin glows like diamonds in the light'.

My, much more interesting take on that is:

Edward:'And someone always decides that there really is diamonds under our skin, and then they try to cut them out'

Bella, eyes wide and glowing:'Are there like REAL DIAMONDS under you skin?'

Edward, looking slightly worried:'No, my skin just glows like diamonds, I don't actually have..'

Bella, has moved forward and with a glazed expression on her face reaches out to touch the 'diamonds':'Are you sure, they look so real.....'

Edward,stepping back:'No! No! They aren't diamonds! Really!'

Bella, looking sad and disappointed:'Are you sure?'

Edward, looking increasingly freaked out:'No, I mean yes! Yes, my skin isn't diamonds!'

Bella looks very sad.

Good comic on 'Twilight':
http://headtripcomics.comicgenesis.com/d/20080505.html

http://headtripcomics.comicgenesis.com/d/20080915.html


*Yes these young women may fantasize about violent alphas but they don't act on the fantasies *

Yes, instead, they trick men into marrying them by lying in order to fulfil their society's norm's, and the men are sucked into loveless, oppressive marriages with awful sex and hard work. Sadly, these men are no longer free to enjoy their lives and be truly happy.

I did have a post on it.

Mormons do fairly well in controlling male and female sexuality, somewhat ironic or perhaps not considering their polygamist past which created understandable friction with their neighbors and within their own society.

Sadly just as men will if able want to sleep with as many bimbos as possible, women will always unless constrained choose violent and dangerous men who may be exciting but make poor husbands and worse fathers, with of course the resulting fewer available women on the market.

Meyer's book is pretty awful, among the worst lessons it tells young girls (who are the main audience) is that they can have their bad boys and suffer no real bad consequences. It's fairly stupid in it's effect socially. Like a how-to manual for abusive and destructive relationships that will turn most nice young women into bitter, used up women totally unsuited for marriage or motherhood.

The hard truths for boys is that looks after a certain point matter less than character and intelligence in choosing a girlfriend and eventual wife. For girls, that looks and being "cool" matter far less than being a reliable, long-haul mate.

In a consumerist society, with Single Motherhood the default choice, the bad-boy plague (Roissy is spot-on wrt Game being well, playing the sexy bad boy vampire characters women love) will undermine society. A nation of Single Mothers is no longer a nation but a rabble.

SWPL Vampires. So true. Women are the main creators of SWPL, given their own internal status competitions.

**Like a how-to manual for abusive and destructive relationships that will turn most nice young women into bitter, used up women totally unsuited for marriage or motherhood**

Most women are unsuited for marriage in any time period due to their attraction only to alpha males.

**The hard truths for boys is that looks after a certain point matter less than character and intelligence in choosing a girlfriend and eventual wife.**

Which is a disincentive to marriage. Why get married if I need porn to still satisfy my urges? At that point, I'm just taking on the financial responsibilities of caring for a long-term female friend and her kids, and that just seems pointless compared to a life of singlehood and freedom. Being single and sexless is far better than being married and trapped with third rate sex and financial burden of caring for a family.

**For girls, that looks and being "cool" matter far less than being a reliable, long-haul mate.**

Again, what good is being a reliable long-haul mate if you don't enjoy him sexually, and you desire to cheat on him and at times cuckold him?

David Alexander,

Most men who marry are _also_ "settling". Ive tried to tell your deaf ears this before, but most men AND women "settle" for whom they marry at some point in their lives. Very FEW people get to marry someone they truly are romantically madly in love with and would forsake all other potential partners for if they could make their own selves a "10" magically.

David, women tend to be more childish than men, and will convince themselves that they can make a cad love them by being good to him, and also think that giving him a child or two and the legal child support alimony situation can keep the aforesaid bad boy. It often does, but he will still cheat on her and resent her.

Most men "love" their wives because they are truly more decent-faithful-beings than the typical spoiled western female. Our legal system, educational system, and media spoil females like wealthy indulgent parents can spoil children. No women in the history of the world have it so good as the typical western white female, hence the way they leave decent loving husbands who are usually about the same in physical attractiveness to themselves. If the legal, educational, and media "shoe" were on the other foot, many men would walk out on their wives and kid(s) and chase other women quite a lot also. Our legal infrastructure, media, and educational attitudes towards women are remarkably indulgent, hence the situation we have.

Several men I know and am related to have held onto their looks pretty well, while their wives have NOT aged all that well, yet these men dont ditch the mothers of their children to chase bar-whores. Its because man is a more upright moral animal than a female tends to be----and the abovementioned cultural factors do not prod him into doing so.

**Ive tried to tell your deaf ears this before, but most men AND women "settle" for whom they marry at some point in their lives. **

Maybe more people should stop settling for third rate choices, and stop wasting their lives lying to each other.

**hence the way they leave decent loving husbands who are usually about the same in physical attractiveness to themselves**

It may be better for the male that the woman leaves him, and he's free to go about his own life with the freedom that marriage suppresses. Marriage is male slavery. Give society it's freedom, leave the beta males alone so they can enjoy themselves, and let women have the alpha males that satisfy them. If I have to pay increased taxes so women don't harass me with false claims of love and romance in order to directly seize my income, then I'll be willing to accept that arrangement. Paying taxes doesn't feel like theft, but a marriage certainly does. I love my female friends as friends, and I'm crazy for my niece, but I've realized that truth that no woman is attracted to a beta except as a potential, non-threatening friend.

**Several men I know and am related to have held onto their looks pretty well**

If they're beta and lack "game", it's unlikely that they could secure better looking women, hence why they stay. Even with child support, a little bit of game could probably deliver sex on demand, but that presumes one is compatible with game.

The older, alpha male for junior high and high school girl is at least partially due to the difference in maturity between high school boys and girls. Since girls mature earlier and usually receive more parental supervison, most high school boys look like dweebs compared to high school age girls. Thus, girls become more interested in older men.

What do SWPL have to do with preppies? In my experience most SWPL hate preppies and vice versa.

CK

David Alexander - you sound young, or at least I hope you still are. Go out and enjoy yourself, date all the women you can. That way when you "settle" you can be happy that at least you've optimized with the choices available and wont spend your life wondering.

After a certain point - and I'm 35 and am pretty close - having a comfortable home with a loving wife and kids around and dinner on the table is far more satisfying than drunken one night stands.

Rob, I bet you're in a lot of debt. There's no way you can have "all of that" while relying solely on wages/salary alone. What would happen if you lost your job?

"Rob, I bet you're in a lot of debt. There's no way you can have "all of that" while relying solely on wages/salary alone. What would happen if you lost your job?"

You've got a crystal ball? Maybe Rob doesn't live in Manhattan/Chicago/SFO/insert high cost of living location here. Maybe he makes real good money. Maybe he went to a state school, got a scholarship, his employer paid for his schooling or he was on the GI Bill. Maybe his wife has a job. Maybe his/her family has some money(inherited wealth). Maybe they don't spend money on stupid shit and have a garden. Maybe your comment wasn't serious...

Anyone on this blog work in BigLaw?

I run a non profit organization that provides pro bono leagal services -

I want to offer slots to a few of the BigLaw lawyers whose employers are giving them a paid year off -

Skadden lets their people take a year on the beach but the other BigLaw firms require them to do pro bono work of sime kind for the year -

how do I connect to these BigLaw lawyers and pitch that they do work for my pro bono organization instead of some other one ?

"Maybe your comment wasn't serious..."

You could've just stated that "he was privileged", instead of making a long list that most people cannot relate to. It's funny, "successful" people are lauded as "hard working" but nobody dares to mention that maybe they grew up more privileged than your average person. Thus, allowing them to achieve the "good and normal life". Then people who don't get the wife, kids and house or wonderful career are tagged as "lazy people who didn't work hard enough" or "clinically depressed".

"Several men I know and am related to have held onto their looks pretty well, while their wives have NOT aged all that well, yet these men dont ditch the mothers of their children to chase bar-whores. Its because man is a more upright moral animal than a female tends to be----and the abovementioned cultural factors do not prod him into doing so."

It has nothing to do with men being more morally upright than women. This conclusion stems from the fact that an obscenely high percentage of men let their bodies go right down the toilet after age 35 or so, the old "can't-see-my-d*ck-without-a-mirror" syndrome, while women tend to remain fit for much longer. So what happens is that in many 35+ couples, the wives age far better than the husbands. What you *don't* see is very many of these women leaving their fat-hog husbands for other men. Clearly, gender differences in moral uprightness are not the explanation.

What is much more likely is that for various reason, loyalty, inertia, and yes, even love, most people who've been married for any length of time have some level of commitment to the marriages, and aren't going to leave if they have happened to age better than their spouses.

"an obscenely high percentage of men let their bodies go right down the toilet after age 35"

There is more of an issue of a natural change in body shape as one ages rather than some moral failing of over-35 men.

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"There is more of an issue of a natural change in body shape as one ages rather than some moral failing of over-35 men."

Natural changes are minor and can be counteracted with some reasonable effort. The problem is, very few men over ~35 make any efforts. It's no coincidence that the vast majority of diet and fitness marketing is aimed toward women.

Someone said they bet I'm in a lot of debt. Actually no, one of the benefits of "settling" with a spouse is that you can actually live well fairly cheaply. I have a good size mortgage, but that's it for debt, and I've got enough reserves by this point to get me through lean times.

Anyone who feels "stuck" with lots of debt and no luck with women should remember that it's still a big country. There's still lots of places with a lower cost of living, and in many ways a higher standard of living than NY or Boston. Those places are run by the baby boomers for their own benefit - every thing from strict zoning laws to fat public sector pensions to high income taxes - at the expense of the younger generation.

"But there are also some bad vampires in town. These vampires drink human blood, and they dress and act like trailer-park trash. Now, it would have been more interesting if the preppy-SWPL vampires turned out to be the bad vampires, and the trailer-trash vampires turned out to be the good vampires, but this is a movie not interested in making any interesting statements like that.

One of the trailer-trash vampires decides he wants to kill Bella and drink her blood as some sort of sport, so the SWPL vampires have to protect her. Good SWPL vampires win. Bella and Edward live happily ever after. The end. "

If you want to see this type of thing, see the movie Underworld (first one was the best). All the Vamps are semi-gothic upperclass whites, but for one black guy who is a military/security type who only has a say in what guns to use to kill Werewolves.

The Werewolves are mostly male, one black one is a main character, and they live in sewers and fight each other and dress like Eurotrash.

Turns out the Werewolves are the good guys.

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