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May 27, 2009

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NYC has two unusual-looking representatives: Weiner, with his narrow head, and the morbidly obese Jerrold Nadler.

Is Weiner still dating "religion of peace" member Huma Abedin? Haven't heard anything about that in a while.....

At least we can all relax, knowing that Weiner is working hard on such important issues as this:

"In June 2008, Weiner sponsored a bill that would increase the number of H-1B visas available to foreign models. Weiner argued that increasing the number of visas would help boost the fashion industry in New York City."

"In June 2008, Weiner sponsored a bill that would increase the number of H-1B visas available to foreign models."

The "Hot Piece of Ass" importation program. I like it!

Well, would you rather be known as a "weener" or a "whiner"? My guess is anyone unfortunate enough to have this name will prefer to be known as a weener.

And let's not forget of course that there is a Weiner who prefers to be known as Michael Savage.

Sigma

Here we go again. A NAM gets appointed to the Supreme Court with "stunning" credentials including a summa from Princeton who doesn't appear intelligent, and has been reversed 60% of the time on appeal by Supreme Court.

Admit it, Sigma. Affirmative action has destroyed the meritocracy at elite institutions so brilliantly that it is impossible to discern the wheat from the chaff based upon her--eh!--"summa."

"Admit it, Sigma. Affirmative action has destroyed the meritocracy at elite institutions so brilliantly that it is impossible to discern the wheat from the chaff based upon her--eh!--"summa."

The elite Ivys are mostly about social networking and training future elites, and not as focussed on learning difficult subjects. The Ivys have always been like this, even prior the rise of AA.

Before the 1960's, Harvard-Yale-Princeton were country clubs/finishing school for the children of old money, Northern WASP elites. HYP is about rubbing shoulders with future fortune 500 CEOs and future Senators and so forth.

HYP specializes in academic subjects that interest the political/governing class. Subjects like economics, foreign affairs, political science, etc. They are less interested in difficult, nerdy academic fields such as quantum mechanics.

Jew

While it is true that prior to the 1960s HYP et al [did you see "Animal House"? Based on screenwriters' college days at Dartmouth] were not that academically rigorous, it is also true that some of the most brilliant scientists and artists have attended these schools.

I'm sure that the organization that gives out the Fields Medal in mathematics is trying to figure out how future Obamas and Sotomayors get get dem one too.

her's a link to Fields Medal winners

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0192505.html

here's a link to Fields Medal winners and their university affiliation

PS Did you see Russell Crowe in "A Beautiful Mind"?

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0192505.html

Brutus:
"While it is true that prior to the 1960s HYP et al [did you see "Animal House"? Based on screenwriters' college days at Dartmouth] were not that academically rigorous, it is also true that some of the most brilliant scientists and artists have attended these schools."

if you read 'race and culture' by thomas sowell, he explicitly details how only a sliver of the sicence/econ nobel laureates, fields winners, macarthur genius grant winners came from ivy institutions. the book was written in 1994, but i suspect this idea is still incorrect.

"it is also true that some of the most brilliant scientists and artists have attended these schools."

This is true, but the elite social networking benefit of going to HYP is still very valid. Caltech and MIT have undergraduate student bodies that are at least as high IQ as HYP's, but they don't have nearly the same influence among the intelligentsia.

Doesn't CUNY still have more nobel laureates than Harvard does? Not sure if that factoid is correct but CUNY is where all the extremely intelligent Jews went pre-1960s when the Ivies had a policy of only allowing a limited amount of Jews. An impressive considering that CUNY has been terrible since their institution of a lax admissions policy.

[HS: As hard as it may be to believe, Jewish people used to be poor immigrants and couldn't afford to send their children away to college. City College (founded in Harlem in the 1800s before that was a bad neighborhood) was all they could afford.]

"Doesn't CUNY still have more nobel laureates than Harvard does? Not sure if that factoid is correct but CUNY is where all the extremely intelligent Jews went pre-1960s when the Ivies had a policy of only allowing a limited amount of Jews. An impressive considering that CUNY has been terrible since their institution of a lax admissions policy."

CUNY might still be in first, because of all the winners decades ago, but it's just a matter of time before it loses its lead. I rather doubt CUNY is adding to its list any more.

[HS: As hard as it may be to believe, Jewish people used to be poor immigrants and couldn't afford to send their children away to college. City College (founded in Harlem in the 1800s before that was a bad neighborhood) was all they could afford.]

Beyond that, Jews were discriminated against by the Ivies (and probably still are [Hey, Moishe, you don't mind if Michelle takes your slot to Princeton?])

"it is also true that some of the most brilliant scientists and artists have attended these schools."

This is true, but the elite social networking benefit of going to HYP is still very valid. Caltech and MIT have undergraduate student bodies that are at least as high IQ as HYP's, but they don't have nearly the same influence among the intelligentsia.

Jew, I attended Harvard, and I didn't feel elite. Comes down to what you want in life. My best friend from childhood is now a famous MIT researcher; his brother makes a fortune as a CEO of a biotech co. Who's got the better job?

Unfortunately, MIT and Caltech are also be dumbed down by NAMs. And so it goes.

Posted by: The Undiscovered Jew | May 27, 2009 at 05:07 PM

"HYP specializes in academic subjects that interest the political/governing class....They are less interested in difficult, nerdy academic fields such as quantum mechanics."

It is not entirely true that HYP (at least H and P) are uninterested in the sciences. During the last 40 years, the Harvard chemistry and physics faculties have boasted many Nobel laureates (e.g. R. B. Woodward, D. Herschbach, E. J. Corey, W. Lipscomb, S. Glashow, R. Glauber, F. Bloch, N. Ramsey). Princeton historically has had very strong physics and mathematics faculties.

"Jew, I attended Harvard, and I didn't feel elite. Comes down to what you want in life."

Perhaps you would have been better off going to a school with hotter babes like UVA?

;)

if you read 'race and culture' by thomas sowell, he explicitly details how only a sliver of the sicence/econ nobel laureates, fields winners, macarthur genius grant winners came from ivy institutions. the book was written in 1994, but i suspect this idea is still incorrect.

Posted by: freak show | May 27, 2009 at 05:03 PM

Freak, the MacArthur is a joke--akin to getting money for taking a shit. Look at my link above; you'll find that an EXTREMELY high percentage of Fields Medal winners went to Princeton.

Let's try an experiment:

Most brilliant entrepreneur? Gates (Harvard dropout)
Most brilliant social scientist? Charles Murray--Harvard/MIT
Most brilliant novelist--John Updike--recently deceased--Harvard
Most brilliant Supreme Court justice--Roberts--Harvard
etc

Brutus - you are more right than you realize.

Richest self-made young man in the world? Mark Zuckerberg - Harvard

I don't think "looking alpha" is really something that helps you that much in urban area Dem primaries.

It helps a lot in the GOP primaries in the South. If you watch Colbert's interview with southern GOP congressmen they are all very manly looking but Sarah Palin-dumb.

Newt Gingrich, pudgy, boy-voiced, and having a Ph.D. in history is the big exception.

I think a Colbert highlight was asking Phil Gingrey, R-GA what the 10 commandments are. He was able to get 3 or 4, and this after giving a spiel about how important they are.

You got love Jerry Nadler. A few years ago he lost 100+ pounds but is still extremely obese.

Here is was in his full jowlsy glory.

http://maaadddog.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/fat-jerrold-nadler.jpg

"Admit it, Sigma. Affirmative action has destroyed the meritocracy at elite institutions so brilliantly that it is impossible to discern the wheat from the chaff based upon her--eh!--'summa.'"

I've been wondering when Sigma would comment on her intelligence. Sigma claimed that Obama's academic achievements required an IQ above 140 or even 150, but her academic achievements are every bit as impressive: 1st or 2nd best student in all of Princeton. Made the law review at Yale. Chuck Schumer was saying there's no affirmative action involved because it's a blind essay contest, however you can probably guess someone's ethnicity by what they write about. Anyway, it would be interesting to get Sigma's take on her IQ.

Brutus, why do you feel Charles Murray is the most brilliant social scientist? I thought "The Bell Curve" was an excellent book, but its thesis wasn't especially original: Rich & influential people are smarter than poor people (Duh!). I find Rushton to be the most original and creative thinker in the social sciences with his r/K theory of racial differences & his research on genetic similarity.

on deadline--write later

Linda

"Losing Ground" was the most revolutionary social science book published in the 20th century.

write tomorrow

Never read "Losing Ground" but just checked it out at Amazon.com & it sounds very interesting & relevant. I'm a liberal myself but could easily be converted to conservatism by good arguments.

"Never read "Losing Ground" but just checked it out at Amazon.com & it sounds very interesting & relevant. I'm a liberal myself but could easily be converted to conservatism by good arguments."

And make sure you drive through your local ghetto. Lots of good educational opportunities. Why, maybe you will even have one of those "teaching moments" liberals love to talk about! Learn something new each day, says I.

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