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August 05, 2009

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Two strange things in the diary:

"Went to the gym and did mostly cardio. My heart rate was 117 just from walking on the treadmill at 3.4."

Unless he had the treadmill set on a very steep incline, there's no way his heart rate should have gotten anywhere near that high from a moderate walking pace. Could it maybe be a reaction to some (psychiatric?) medicine he was taking?

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"Lee Ann Valdiserri had my baby in early 1991. Haven't seen her since she was about four months into it. I knew her sister, Chris, from high school."

So he must have a child, who's now 17 or 18. It doesn't look like he has any contact with him or her.


This man had way to high standards. He did not want a companion, he wanted a "hot" college age hottie to show off to friends. What a jerk.

Damn! The banality of a man on the oblivion express.

Too bad no one actually reacted to his blog/diary.Seemed like all this could have been averted if he just had a friend. What a shame, guy seemed like he would be fun to talk to as well. I guess hindsight really is 20/20...

If he allowed it to be broadcast everywhere, did they remove it because of the names/addresses he lists? I'm glad I got to print it out myself before they snatched it off the Web.

I agree about the heart rate comment-the guy was constantly working out, I can't believe his HR was that high.

The burning question I have is, would meeting a woman and having a "successful" relationship have kept him from this? He describes his desperate depression, but cites no doctor visits, meds, etc. Makes you wonder if he ever sought treatment. But in the end, none of that matters because he's dead.

I wanted to hate him for what he did, but reading what he wrote I just felt sorry for him.
This is a person who was screaming for help. I guess his employers at the law firm never searched his name. Cannot believe people from his past did not somehow look at this blog?

Thanks for posting this. I tried to see it online and it was already taken down. It's really sad. Makes you wonder how many people lead sad and lonely lives like this. I haven't read the whole thing yet but I'm dying to know if he explains why killing people, mostly strangers, was the way he decided to end his life. I'm sure given the way he described his parents and his brother that he had problems communicating socially. But I still find it terribly sad. I don't spend a lot of time reading blogs or looking at personal web pages but it's amazing he could post this and no one even read it. Makes it all the more sad as it seems like he wanted to get stopped and perhaps get some help. Don't get me wrong -- if he'd hurt someone I knew, I would be furious but I can't imagine anyone reading this not to feel sorry for this poor soul. There but for the grace of God go I... Again, thanks for posting it. I hope you leave it up a couple of days or more.

If only he could have gotten some help, maybe he and the others would still be alive..and better yet if someone is so MISERABLE, take your own life NOT the life of others because of whats going on in your life. Completely selfish.

So this whole thing was about him not getting laid. Geez. This country is lost.

This is so heart wrenching. I work in the mental health field & wish I could have met this young man and helped him. Loneliness is very common. We can be in a room full of people, even be in a relationship and still feel alone. Someone should have told him rejection is sooooooo common and is also God's protection most times. Particularly interesting is his remarks about family. When is the world going to wake up and take seriously the job of parenting? He had a child, who may also be wrenched with loneliness and self-hatred. It takes a village, folks. Let's stop doing the easy thing - spending money on things that don't work and start caring, mentoring, nurturing & supporting each other!


Although I am sure she is glad to be dragged into this, Mallory Squires is pretty good looking.

archive.org does have some of his old pages. Interestingly he also calls himself 'crazygeorge' and had a website 'crazygeorge.com'.

Not much to see there, though. If I were rich I'd make a internet archive to back up all the stuff that gets purged out of archive.org.

This guy most certainly had Borderline Personality Disorder.

Actually 117 is a more than reasonable heart rate for a swift walking pace for somebody who's only moderately conditioned and especially at his age.

He was a middle-aged, single, American Male with a good job and decent net worth who wanted a young, attractive female companion.

Why didn't he just take a vacation to Russia? He would have no problem meeting a woman there. Should have asked me first, George.

Can anyone make sense of the html on his site
http://home.comcast.net/~space777/
its says
"The old crazygeorge site is behind the password protected box above. If anybody wants access, just drop me an email.
mailto:george12345@telerama.com""

It looks to me like the the password is just you guess the directory name he moved index.htm into.

Also he says in comments:

Stacy, right click and select "Save Picture As...". I cropped a few of them, pick which one you want or all of them. Let me know when you got these so I can take them down.

I got a "poor, poor, me" vibe through most of his posts.. Yeah, poor guy - family didn't give him the love and affection he needed, and even though he'd be happy to listen, no one ever did him the justice of telling him what he was doing wrong.

Having an attitude like he had it's no wonder that he never developed any relationships. I can bet that he never really invested any time in making friends with people. His only interest in life was wallowing in self pity about not being laid in 20 years.

If he felt like it was something about him that people didn't like - like it was his fault, why did he feel the need to end these women's lives? He didn't want to go on living in a miserable life for 30 years, but why make that decision for other people? What a loser.

What a delusional ass - shooting a bunch of women 'cause his brother was a bully and mommy didn't give enough hugs? I can certainly see why he offed himself, though he should never have blamed other for being a loser shut-in.

Wow, I feel for this guy. What he did was wrong, but, from what he has written, he wasn't a coward. The guy tried to get what he wanted. He obviously was intelligent, had good work ethic, but none of that mattered to him. He is leaving out a lot of details, I'm sure. This is sad, for everyone involved.

Very interesting if you read and interpret it using psychoanaythical theory.

From the picture this guy looked pretty normal; from his diary, he seemed shy, introverted and self-defeating. I bet a lot of people feel some of the rejection and pain that he's felt. We've all been there. What makes the difference i think is whether or not we have the support of friends and family which he obviously didn't. Would one good friend or one chance to be involved in a relationship have changed the outcome? I think so. Problem is, we aren't open to helping others unless it has some payout for us. Now innocent people are dead.

Thanks for posting this diary. It really opened my eyes.

What a sad, fearful, angry, lonely, miserable man he was. That doesn't forgive anything. Just an observation.

Sounds a lot like my first BF who ended up taking his own life several years back. Many of this guys writings are reminiscent of my ex's.

From personal experience I can say that no one and nothing could have helped this man from doing what he did. He needed a lot of counseling and medication.

My heart goes out to all those poor people that suffered the consequences of this man's sickness.

Funny I haven't had a boyfriend since 2003, I dumped him because he was possessive and jealous, so I find that more of a reason to celebrate not kill.

If his net worth was $250k he should've headed to vegas and blown the lot on hookers and cocaine.

Can you please edit out the names, adress', and phones numbers of the parties mentioned above?

Thank You

Fuck that is scary. I see so much of myself in that. Compulsive exercise, feeling like I've been rejected by everyone, delusions of childhood neglect, constant self-pity and disgust that I can't change. Never wanted to kill other people, but felt like life was another addiction. I hated it, but it hurt too much to stop.

One day a couple weeks ago, I had a window of insight. I got a for an antipsychotic. Now that I'm on it, I realize how insane I was for so long.

Alot of people have fucked up lives but we dont go out and kill innocent people. The "Oh poor me" was his way of justifying what he was about to do. Too bad he didnt just shoot himself instead of innocent people who are not either dead or living in a nightmare they will never wake up from!

This guy was a bit odd, obviously rather lonely, but his writings seem pretty rational. He certainly doesn't come across as a lunatic, just a guy wallowing in self-pity. Though hindsight is 20/20, there are pretty obvious hints that he was gonna go out with a bang. I wonder if he checked his website's hits constantly, and that made him even more depressed?

Yeah, so he didnt get laid too often, but even this guy must have known that you can pay to get laid. Seems like he was more after intimacy and companionship than sex. Thanks to culture's idealization of the couple, he came to believe that the key to his own happiness must be tied to the opposite sex.

Totally psychotic in my opinion, and that comes from dealing with people like this through work

I have an interpretation:

This man actually was NOT a psychotic but a neurotic, an extremely obsessive neurotic. Notice that he has an obsession with quantities, and he writes quite good. It doesn't mean he wasn't insane, obviously, but I think psychoanalythical therapy could have helped him a lot.

Will,

Borderline personality is something I was diagnosed with once. I wonder if people age out of short stormy relationships and rapid love/hate cycling into isolation, paranoia, and delusions.

He sounds like he might have had psychotic depression or schizotypal personality disorder.

It would be a bit unusual if someone with paranoid schizophrenia or schizoaffective disorder could function so long. Except he seems to have stripped down his life to the bare minimum. He quit drinking when he was about 28, same time he stopped having sex. Some people with severe mental illnesses drink and drug because they want to feel something, and they/we relate much better with people in altered states. Maybe he's been really sick since his teens or twenties.

He had lots of schizophrenia symptoms. Feeling like zombie just going through motions, not enjoying much are negative symptoms. being unable to concentrate is a cognitive symptom, delusions and paranoia are positive symptoms. I would not be surprised if his workouts weren't more like active catatonia. 40's is really old for a man to come down with schizophrenia, but it isn't unheard of.

He wasn't the dime a dozen on the internet dejected beta. He was straight up mentally ill.

I wanted to feel sorry for this guy, I really did. I'm an introvert and a loner and while I'm not nearly as bad as he is, I figured I could understand what he was going through.

But as a woman, I can't. Maybe I'm just ignorant to the way men think about women, but he just came across as a pig who wanted a "hoe" and not a decent relationship, or he would have said as much in his personal ramblings. He talks so much about attractive women and how slutty they are, and how he hasn't been laid but he rarely mentions the need for a woman to love with his heart. I'd bet anything that he eventually convinced himself that all women were little more than a roll in the sack and I have a feeling that other women probably caught on to that sooner or later and that's why he had a hard time picking them up.

Poor guy.

I can relate to how this person felt. I see a lot of similarities between my own life and his. I however cannot understand how he could bring himself to kill someone els's daughter,sister, mother. I feel similar hopelessness and dispair but will never resort to killing or harming an innocent. This was a very selfish individual who felt that the world owed him something more. Im not in a relationship and havnt been in one since 1993. I live alone. I lost my job a year ago and have been steadily accumulating debt in order to keep a roof over my head, Im almost at the point of bankruptsy. Ill be homeless and broke within the next 2 months if i dont find a job. I recently started a new hobby, drinking heavily! But in the end, no matter how bad it gets, i know that Ill never kill someone else.

Good riddance to bad rubbish I say. Shame he actually took real people with him.
This guy is like hundreds of other losers, always whining about how bad he has it while living in the land of plenty.
If this guy ever saw actual hardship, he'd have died of shock.
Honestly, some people only make the world a better place by leaving it.

It's truly a sad situation as was his entire life!

This guy wanted everyone to feel sorry for him, and he is getting what he wanted. He tries to justify his actions but saying no one will judge him except for God, but through out this entire diary all he does is judge everyone around him, and mostly on appearances alone-due to the fact that apparently he never opened his mouth and talked to anyone. I mean really, calling all women who are young "hoes" just because he can't start a relationship or get laid in 20 years? This guy was pathetic and he had no one to blame but himself. It outrages me in fact, because look at all the people who are out there in the world living their life with multiple disadvantages! I mean he just needed to get over himself, that's why women didn't want to be involved with him!
I watched a video, in church, of a motivational speaker who was born with no legs, or arms. This young man taught himself to do everything using only his mouth. He is thankful for everyday he is alive and even taught himself to surf.
Don't feel sorry for this George jagoff, his world was made by him. May he burn in eternal hellfire because I am sure God judged him and gave him two thumbs down!

It will be interested to hear from his co-workers at his job. The guy is reasonably good looking. Most guys in their 40's look like crap. Also, I have seen guys who look like him with decent looking women on them. So, he must have had a bad personality or something. His co-workers should have something to say about this.

I noticed from his diary that he obviously did not care much for Asian women. He describes his brother's wife as a Chinese-descent woman with "no body, no ass, no breasts, and no personality". Often times, American "betas" go for Asian women. This guy appears to be fixated on white "hotties". Given that this occurred in the Pittburgh (one of the "whitest" metro areas in the country), such a fixation is not surprising. He never thought about Russian, Latina, or Asian women.

I'm not sure Russian women are a good choice. They can be far more conniving than any American woman would ever think of. I know a guy who got into trouble while living in Russia as a result of a relationship with a Russian woman.

I do have to say that this is a real trip. I work out at 24 hour fitness 4 times a week and I cannot help but wonder if there are any guys there that are a "bit around the bend".

The man obviosuly had mental problems that were not properly taken care of, the raised heart rate could be contributed to some sort of internal thinking while he was on the treadmill, seeing a good looking girl, panic attack, anxiety etc. Its also easy to see that his thoughts become less coherent the closer he gets to the last entry also, its also interesting that his thoughts become more chaotic soon after he decides to start drinking again

The more I think about this, the less sympathy I have for this guy. In fact, this guy was a prick and I have zero sympathy for him. He was a decent looking guy with a good job with respectable savings. Indeed, he had just received a promotion with a pay increase. That's pretty good in the age of the Obamanation.

The women he targeted and killed were no doubt attractive (like the ones in my gym) but were certainly not of the "college girls gone wild" age group. The women he killed were all in their 30's and 40's, which is likely to be the age of most of those he wounded.

Additionally, he killed women. That's the real mind blower for me. I was socialized while a child never to hit or hurt a woman in anyway, shape, or form. I can see killing men, as they are legitimate targets. But never women or children. That's just plain sick, pure and simple. I agree women can be irritating and the white American woman especially so. But to hurt and kill them? That goes beyond the boundary of the rational and civilized.

This guy said he liked to travel on his website. Why didn't he go to Mexico or Costa Rica? This guy obviously was obsessed with the white woman and did not have any concept of what I call "outward-orientation". My hometown where I grew up is a very insular place with a population that is 95% white that has an economy that is based on health-care, domestic service, and blue collar (in that order). Everything that I have read and heard about the Pittsburgh area is that it is a larger version of my hometown.

No wonder this guy went off the deep end.

"Most guys in their 40's look like crap."

Their stomachs enter a room a few seconds before the rest of their bodies.

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"I noticed from his diary that he obviously did not care much for Asian women. He describes his brother's wife as a Chinese-descent woman with "no body, no ass, no breasts, and no personality". Often times, American "betas" go for Asian women. This guy appears to be fixated on white "hotties"."

Not to say that he should have gone Dumpster Diving (to use a term from a Notorious Sex-Related Blog), but he very well might have been aiming a bit too high. Even though he was in good shape he still was 48 years old, and though he had a fair amount of money he wasn't wealthy, so he wasn't likely to get any 25-year-old 10's.

I can't believe anyone would feel sorry for this pos. What if that was your wife or daughter in that gym class.

"I work out at 24 hour fitness 4 times a week and I cannot help but wonder if there are any guys there that are a "bit around the bend"."

Spending time at a big upscale gym like LA Fitness might have been highly frustrating for Sodini. He no doubt was surrounded by any number of fit young women, often wearing minimalist workout attire. Although: for his rampage, he chose an exercise class that seemed to appeal mostly to middle-aged ladies. Why?

I want to say something about some comments:

I live in Costa Rica, and I know that some persons come to my country just to have sex. But I can assure that it doesn't cure anyone. I doubt it could have helped this man either.

He wasn't just neurotic. He was delusional. If he had a kid in 91, he last had sex about 17 years ago, not 20, depending on when he wrote the miscellaneous. He thought he had been rejected by 30 million women. No one, not even the hardest trying wanna-be pick-up artist has been rejected by that many women. He even mentions having a date like last year.

His problem wasn't just sexual relationships. He didn't have male or female friends, doesn't even talk to his immediate family, and he doesn't enjoy anything: Introvertive anhedonia.

He thinks his 20's passed him by. He had a few dates in the time he did the diary. But not for the 20 years before? Why? Was he institutionalized? Maybe the 20 dateless years was part of paranoid delusions.

I feel like this guy. I have no good friends. I'm not horrible looking but I have no successful dates. Do you know what it's like to feel completely alone, that nobody understands you? To have never had sex? People have an aversion to me and I'm not sure why. Perhaps he figured that the world had rejected him, so he will get payback.

It's hard not to feel sorry for the guy, but i am friends with the son of one of the victims he so carelessly murdered and i am enraged that one person could cause so much destruction. This man obviously had many problems, but it seems as though if he would have searched for help, this terrible occurrence could have been easily avoided. To take out one's frustration on others in this way is just sickening to me. In this one act of retaliation against women everywhere, he has potentially destroyed the lives of not just the victims, but hundreds of people who loved those poor women.

It looks like nobody caught on to this guy's writings because he probably posted it all right before he did the killings...

This nerdy guy had enough income to buy a piece of ass if he let go of his unrealistic standards. But he had the look of a latent homosexual or a geek with an effeminate streak. And in a place like PA, the gals tend to go for real men and not pretty boys who live in their head and think too much.

One aspect of this whole thing no one has mentioned--would this have happened if he didn't have easy access to GUNS? This guy does not sound psychotic or mentally ill in my unprofessional opinion. Rather, just a lonely, bitter isolated man who probably hadn't progressed much emotionally since his mid-20s. Probably thousands of other out there just like him. Most of these types of random shootings happen in this country because, in most states, you can walk into any sporting goods store or gun show and pick up an armload of weapons. That's what separates the US from the rest of the 'civilized' world.

WOW..even tho he did an awful thing, his mind is brilliant. Great writer full of emotion and depth. Kinda sad too. How many people walk around feeling alone in a room that is crowded and how many are married and still feel lonely.

I think this is a great way to see what people that are lonely depressed, sad and miserable think about.

@ Retard

That doesn't justify murder. Ever.

If you have trouble meeting people and getting laid, it's because you're trying too hard. Join a club or take a class. Make some friends. Have a bar-b-cue. Get yourself out there but don't press yourself on other people. When you're least looking for it, love finds you.

Also, don't denigrate yourself. Calling yourself "Retard" certainly isn't going to earn you any respect. You're not a retard, but stop playing helpless.

More than anything, hurting others is not okay, ever. This is the sort of thinking that leads to dark places.

-Hiro

I think his actions are too planned and long-term to be borderline PD. Had some sense of stability and didn't seem impulsive--. I'd say narcissistic PD. He just assumed he should get love/attention/affection without actually having to do anything about it. When he didn't get what he was entitled to, he raged.
And it goes without saying but he showed a major lack of empathy, which is a big part of NPD. So much so that he could never understand why girls would be repulsed by him.

I think if he had less of an entitlement issue, this woulda been a suicide rather than a suicide/rampage. He would have just quietly took himself out.

You know the problem? It's the city where he lived. It's impossible to meet anyone in small time Pittsburgh. He should have moved.

This guy should rot in hell along with his family. I think his body should be dug up from his grave and thrown under a bus. fucking piece of shit.

This disgusting post-"sexual revolution" bullshit is the reason things like this are happening. Male-instigated violence is most common in sexually liberal countries (U.S., Canada, Scandinavia, Germany) and it is going to rise unless America returns to more traditional monogamous values of love and family. (By the way, I'm very liberal; I voted for Obama, hold generally socialist economic views, date mostly outside my race, and fully support the right of gays to marry.)

Casual sex is not "feminist". In fact, it's very far from being so. It's a corrosive activity that damages peoples' ability to form meaningful, long-term relationships. "Hookup culture" is a perverse, cancerous subsociety that has more in common with pre-civilized strong-man polygamy than with a society built on love and respect between the genders (this latter ideal has never been fully realized on a global scale, but we should strive for it).

In pre-monogamous societies, male-instigated violence (mostly against other men, but often against women, especially in the case of war rape) is extremely common; death rates in warfare are close to 0.5% per year. This is because (taking an evolutionary perspective) the reproductive stakes of social status are high. The alpha males take many "wives" who are treated like chattel; the betas are monogamous (or, rarely, bigamous) with high paternal investment; the gammas have no one and must either cuckold a higher status male (risking death), start a revolt within the tribe (also risking death), or fight a war against another tribe (ditto). This is terrible for men, but also for women, considering that a large proportion of them will be wed to (read: owned by) alphas who mistreat them and neglect their children.

Required paternal investment and monogamy represent civilization's first "revenge of the nerds". Despite the PUA shitsauce that tends to denigrate being "beta", being beta, in technical terms, is a good thing. The alpha strategy is to propagate one's genes by spreading them widely, with little-to-no paternal investment. The beta strategy is to find one highly desirable partner, have a relatively equal relationship, and invest heavily in the kids. (Barack Obama, with an attractive, smart wife and two kids he adores, is a high-ranking beta. Bill Clinton's tendency to cheat with women of mediocre attractiveness is more "alpha".) We must retain monogamy in order to have a stable and nonviolent civilization, which means a return to proper values.

Obviously, neither Seung Hui-Cho's nor George Sodini's pattern is typical of a gamma male in a pre-monogamous society-- their targets were not all men, and all were entirely innocent; moreover, the violence was ultimately self-destructive, rather than the self-assertive sort of a man trying to be "alpha". This is because the leading edge of a wave of violence is going to consist of the most psychologically fragile (read: fucking insane, as both these men clearly were) individuals. But if we want to avert more senseless loss, we've got to bring such a strong stigma back against "hooking up" that pre-monogamous behavior goes way back into hiding.

"I wonder if people age out of short stormy relationships and rapid love/hate cycling into isolation, paranoia, and delusions."

Well, I didn't. Rob, you've got a good point that the guy probably had serious long-term mental health problems. I wouldn't be surprised if he'd been diagnosed at some point, maybe even institutionalized. It would help explain how weirdly stunted he seemed.

"Don't know why, find it fun talking to young kids when I visit someone."

Yep, so typical of his type. No matter how old he gets, he relates emotionally only to teens and young adults. Stunted, stunted, stunted.

'would this have happened if he didn't have easy access to GUNS?'

Dude had no convictions, no *official* history of mental illness, and planned this thing for a year. On top of that, this particular massacre could have been done with a rifle (that is, he wouldn't have needed an easily concealed weapon). So, no. You'd have to make guns *massively* unavailable (like more restricted than UK or Japan) to stop this. You want a poster child for gun control, you have to look elsewhere.

'It's impossible to meet anyone in small time Pittsburgh'.

I met my wife here. And obviously, lots of people *do* get married, hook up or what have you here. Funny thing with women, they always think the big exciting city is the place to be (like NYC...) but the demographics say that the deck is stacked against them there.

rob | August 05, 2009 at 05:57 PM
He thought he had been rejected by 30 million women.

He did not say he had been rejected by 30 million women ....
He said (May 18, 2009) ..... There are 30 million desirable women in the US (my estimate) and I cannot find one.

then you wrote ... He wasn't just neurotic. He was delusional. If he had a kid in 91, he last had sex about 17 years ago, not 20,.....

AGAIN he said
(1) No sex since July 1990 either (I was 29). (Dec 24, 2008)

(2) Lee Ann Valdiserri had my baby in early 1991.
........
so calculate that .... July 1990 sex, baby @ April 1991

He said he has slept ALONE for over 20 years.
.....................................

Personally if he wanted to take people with him he should have gone after Mom, Brother Michael and Dad not strangers! At least go to the root

To me, it sounds like depression NOS with psychotic features. Possibly Schizotypal, but his thinking is organized (other than the "exit plan") which entailed killing women because they didn't pay attention to him. Probable Antisocial personality disorder. He didn't want a woman, he wanted a fuck object. There are many more out there where he came from, and the law does nothing about them, even when you report their threatening behavior and death threats. See http://ve7kfm.com for several examples.

Why are many of you associating introversion with "failure" or "psychotic"? Screw you. I guess you're one of those annoying assholes who holds up the line at Turkey Hill while you chit-chat with the cashier about all of the make believe drama that goes on in your life? Or are you that annoying bank teller who just has to ask "how my day is going"?

And what if this guy went into a gym and shot all men because he doesn't like the fact that he won't be as "buff" as them? How much anger and attention would such a story receive?

I have to be honest here. If these victims were a bunch of sorority princesses or those cold-hearted, careerist type women, or mothers who scream at their kids hockey games, I could careless about their deaths. Sure, they don't deserve murder and I'm not condoning it, but I think a bigger tragedy would be taking the lives of women who were mothers like the one you saw on the classic TV show 10 years ago "Freaks and Geeks" or "The Wonder Years".

Reddit has everything about this guy, including his google search history.

http://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/97wnt/reddit_exclusive_george_sodini_documents_la/


Here's an Internet post where he says he's going to try and get sex from 16 year olds

http://isitnormal.com/story/48-year-old-man-with-teen-age-girl-28739/

what a crazy sick world we live in that a depressed over seeking woman hater is the topic of all the news. Its saddening to hear of all the innocent women that were caught in fire of his sad life. Be a man and drop the guns at the door when your done. If god would forive you of this sin, NOT He would have you pay for the lives you took on your own, maybe freak o(george) didn't want his bully brother to kick his ass one more time, let alone every other man in that gym.. what a fucking asshole. changed the life of millions of people (more than just at the gym) but that is what he wanted and HE DID JUST THAT. I agree with you he had mental issues, left untreated, but a smart enough man to get help. he didnt want help he wanted to be heard. I dont know about anyone else But I stopped and listened.

He mentions more than once that he has changed his appearance and still no-one liked him. Maybe if he tried being himself and not what he thought people wanted him to be this might have had a different outcome.

No excuse. It's a shame what happened.

Sheila, oops, I meant I wonder if people -with borderline personality disorder- age out of short stormy relationships.

I still believe this man wasn't psychotic.

Pwnsive; Your interpretation of male sexuality is quite interesting. Where did you find it?

You know I read of comments regarding Pittsburgh. That man's disfunction had nothing to do with where the man lived; it stems from how he was raised and demons from within himself.

He had major bipolar/chemical imbalance problems which were never addressed. Smaller towns actually are nurturing; people help each other. That man never spoke to anyone to ask for help! He had major issues!

Rest in peace brother. I feel your pain.

Alot of George's experiences are similar to my own, so I have found all of this very very interesting.

It sounds like he did alot of grunt work software development (I am also a .NET developer). I am not surprised by his highly logical and analytical skills and I am also not surprised by his loneliness.

It sounds like my childhood was strangely similar, as well. I can't explain the need to kill, but I think the greatest contributing factor to his desparation was his lack of relationship with his "useless sperm doner" father.

So please, if you've seen the bumper sticker, dont hug a musician - they get enough action. Save that hug for the systems analyst down the street that keeps the law firms going.

The first post on 11/5/08 says it all. Any 48 year old technical individual who says things like that is warped. There are folks out there who have marriages breaking up, unemployed, rowdy children all combined and not murdering. Imagine if George was married with children but laid off. RIP to the victims. And shame such a nut case slipped through the cracks of colleagues and others for so long.

No Cera,

he wrote "I actually look good....yet 30 million women rejected me."

That's a delusion. No one knows that many people.

One place he says he has no children. Another he has a kid. One of those statements is not true.

Nothing,
We aren't really associating introverted with loser and psycho. We're associating shooting a whole bundcha people he didn't know for no good reason with loser psycho. It isn't a fine line.

He should have joined the military - chicks love military guys. Plus- he could have used his shooting skills for an honorable purpose.

Can you say ASPERGERS SYNDROME??

Everyone keeps saying this guy hated women and was evil, etc. I'm offering no excuses for the fact that he took 4 lives, including his own and hurt others; but, some of the comments posted here are insensitive and honestly the most appropriate word for some of them is "ignorant".

Some posters are ignorant to the facts about mental illness. It is so obvious from his diary that he had a mental illness. Any intelligent person could see that he was severely depressed from a young age which caused him to be quite isolated and dysfunctional. Again, I'm making no excuses for him. We don't have the right, not matter how ill we are to take the lives of any other person.

Having said all that....a SANE person knows that. This man didn't sound at all SANE to me.

We live in such a cynical society where it's so easy for people to dismiss the obvious pain and confusion that others may be experiencing. Where is the empathy and yes sometimes sympathy for those who just can't seem to find happiness?

It's true that at the end of the day you have to want to do better; but, it is also true that at some point in life everyone needs someone even if they are the kind who don't want to admit it.

I am certain that this guy exhibited signs of his mental instability. That woman at the picnic who asked him if he'd been bullied in high school.....had only met him one time....so what does that say about all of the others who knew he was off but, didn't care enough or take the time to try to see if they could help.

Sometimes all it takes is for someone to show that they care...that you matter. Granted I think he would have needed that plus therapy and most likely medications while addressing his anti-social thoughts; but, it's apparrent in his writings that the feelings of loneliness and isolation were what made him feel that he had to do this.

It's easy to say "good riddance" because what he did was horrible. But, it's also true that while it doesn't "excuse" what he did this was a very ill individual and this could possible have been avoided.

He mentioned that trying weed again might be fun.. Ohhh if only this guy could have gotten a hold of some sweet Mary jane. He'd have no more drama, and his masturbation wouldve improved to the point where he probably wouldn't care so much about not having a girl. Further, in that lifted state he would know EXACTLY how to achieve whatever he wanted. Who knows what I'm talkin bout? Legalize it already, seriously.

I was very much like him when I lived in America, but I never wanted to kill anyone but myself. I was in very good shape and had lots of male and female friends, but very few lovers.
I moved to Thailand and get so much female attention that I am never lonely and don't dream every night of wanting to die. All the sex that I want and every girl is flirting and interested in me even though I am fat and old and ugly.
20 good years here. It was the best thing that I ever did for myself and my sanity.

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