I finished reading The Game by Neil Strauss, the autobiographical story of how a short, bald, mild-mannered reporter becomes a great Pickup Artist (PUA) named “Style.” The reader is treated to raunchy stories about the exploits of Style and other PUAs, and the strange story of how a bunch of PUAs try to live together in a mansion called “Project Hollywood.” Besides the author, the other main character in the book is Mystery, who was a major leader in the PUA movement. The book also teaches us the rules of “game,” which is the term used to describe how to pick up women.
My impression is that only a few super-top-level PUAs such as Style himself are able to use game to pick up regular women. The other PUAs are merely picking up sluts. But the thing about sluts is that they normally only sleep with alphas (called “AMOGs” in the book for “alpha male of the group”). Learning game allows the PUAs to also sleep with their share of sluts.
I don’t think Roissy would disagree with me, as he wrote something similar about sluts in his blog. This book has helped me to understand what Roissy is talking about in his blog. But after reading the book, I think the real winners are neither the PUAs nor the alphas, but rather the beta guys who married their high school sweethearts and never had to deal with the dysfunctional dating scene among twenty and thirty-somethings.
"The other PUAs are merely picking up sluts."
I think this is what's called "water seeking it's own level" or in more modern terms, "assortative mating".
Posted by: g | August 30, 2009 at 03:55 PM
Slightly off topic, but here is (yet another) Asian male marrying a Caucasian woman, as a third of US-born Asian males do.
Click the link for a picture of the lovely couple, who will probably have high IQ children.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/30/fashion/weddings/30derancy.html?_r=1&ref=style
Ms. DeRancy, 28, is keeping her name. She is a program coordinator in the admissions office of the M.B.A. program at Stanford University’s business school. She graduated from William Smith College and received a master’s degree in higher education administration in June from Santa Clara University.
Her father is the executive director for alumni affairs at the State University of New York at Cortland and is to become a manager of the college’s new capital campaign, which is to begin in November. Her mother, a social worker, is a service coordinator in Cortland, N.Y., for the Central New York Developmental Disabilities Services Office..
Dr. Kuo, 35, is a vascular and interventional radiologist and an attending physician on the hospital staff at Stanford University Medical Center. He is also an assistant professor of radiology and the director of the fellowship in vascular and interventional radiology at the Stanford University School of Medicine. He graduated cum laude from Duke and received his medical degree from Wake Forest.
Posted by: fullsigma | August 30, 2009 at 04:52 PM
"I think the real winners are neither the PUAs nor the alphas, but rather the beta guys who married their high school sweethearts and never had to deal with the dysfunctional dating scene among twenty and thirty-somethings."
I second that. Relationship Game can help out those betas though, in holding onto their sweethearts.
Posted by: Beta Prime | August 30, 2009 at 06:31 PM
One point which a Well-Known Sex Blogger often makes is that even if a Beta manages to find a woman, he'll always have to live in fear that an Alpha will come along and poach his woman. My suspicion is that this fear is way exaggerated. If an Alpha decides to steal away another man's woman, he's not going to target Betas - that wouldn't be any challenge - but other Alphas.
Posted by: Peter | August 30, 2009 at 06:59 PM
"But after reading the book, I think the real winners are neither the PUAs nor the alphas, but rather the beta guys who married their high school sweethearts and never had to deal with the dysfunctional dating scene among twenty and thirty-somethings."
That's what I have been saying all along. In a healthy society, marriage minded young men between the ahes of 22-32 would idealy date and marry unstenched, virginal teen girls and form a strong emotional bond which will last a lifetime.
Posted by: Gannon | August 30, 2009 at 07:18 PM
"Game" is merely distilled self-confidence along with a few practical observations about what women really respond to, as opposed to what they say they respond to.
An ordinary guy can learn some game, pick up on a single woman who is at a similar level on the dating market (or maybe a *little* higher), and voila - now has a girlfriend.
Being a "pickup artist" requires dumping girls as fast as you pick up on them; in a relatively small social world, this gets you a bad reputation, which means you have to keep changing social circles, or be *really, really* good at game, to keep getting new women. Getting a girlfriend requires being a "pickup artist" once, which is much easier.
Posted by: Anthony | August 30, 2009 at 07:20 PM
"Slightly off topic, but here is (yet another) Asian male marrying a Caucasian woman, as a third of US-born Asian males do."
Yeah... if you don't count the ones who die alone clutching their Wiimotes.
Posted by: mike | August 30, 2009 at 08:37 PM
'in a relatively small social world, this gets you a bad reputation'
I'm not so sure about that. In high school and college, at least, having a 'bad reputation' (that is, having all the women know that you slept around and/or would dump girlfriends frequently) wouldn't make most women avoid you; quite the contrary, these guys would be surrounded by a social circle they defined, with lots of women hangers-on who loved the drama and general complications. Granted, it may be different post-college; it's much more of a hit to status for a woman to be in this situation once she's old enough that society thinks she should settle down.
Posted by: bbartlog | August 30, 2009 at 08:45 PM
"My suspicion is that this fear is way exaggerated."
I'd argue that the problem is that the woman will bolt once she has the opportunity to secure sex with alpha males. One must remember that no woman is truly attracted to beta males, and that beta males are at best male friends that they tolerate.
Posted by: David Alexander | August 30, 2009 at 08:52 PM
" I think the real winners are neither the PUAs nor the alphas, but rather the beta guys who married their high school sweethearts and never had to deal with the dysfunctional dating scene among twenty and thirty-somethings"
goog point Sigma, there is something to be said for marrying a good girl from high school. These guys dont get some of the life experiences that long-single men who have indulged in the world do, but they also dont get nearly as many headaches and heartaches either.
Posted by: miles | August 30, 2009 at 08:56 PM
I would think you, of all people, would know better than to believe anything a reporter writes for money in the first person. "My Real-Life Experience Trying [X]," is always at least half BS. The samples I've read from that book reek of fantasy fuel for lonely voyeurs. It's the romantic version of someone telling you you can make lots of money working from home.
Some of the targets are probably "sluts" looking for a one-nighter. But a lot of them are just emotionally vulnerable and clueless. They confuse these manipulations with genuine interest from men, and think they'll get a relationship out of it. They are the low-hanging fruit. It's easy to bully lonely people.
Posted by: Sheila Tone | August 30, 2009 at 08:58 PM
"In a healthy society, marriage minded young men between the ahes of 22-32 would idealy date and marry unstenched, virginal teen girls"
Unstenched?
Posted by: Peter | August 30, 2009 at 09:19 PM
A lot of books on game seem pretty fucking useless. I would be willing to bet good money that 90-95% of the readers of these books don't get any better at meeting women. In fact, the only use these books have is in separating unsuspecting fools from their hard-earned money.
If you don't already have a pair of balls and the ability to walk up to girls and start a conversation, then reading books on game can be pretty useless. Reading about "theory" does nothing for you unless you can actually learn from real world experience.
Sure, books on game can give you good tips, but in the end you have to have a pair a balls and actually interact with women.
Just look at all of the fools who comment on Roissy's blog. A lot of them admit they have trouble getting women (some even admit to being fucking virgins), yet they also seem to be experts at the "theory" of game because they read Roissy's blog religiously. How is this possible?
It is my belief that many so-called betas don't really want to change their behavior. They don't want to go out to bars or clubs or other places and meet women. They don't want to be more social. They don't want to change they way they dress or act. No, they want some hot model to walk up to them and offer to fuck.
Well, I am sorry, but a book on game is not going make that happen. Hell, they might as well read the yellow pages and save themselves the money (money they could use to buy another Xbox 360 game) because they are not picking up a thing from reading books on game.
Posted by: king obama | August 30, 2009 at 09:35 PM
Another Asian guy married to whitey made father of the year in Australia:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/08/28/2669699.htm
Posted by: Human Tom | August 30, 2009 at 09:35 PM
"Slightly off topic, but here is (yet another) Asian male marrying a Caucasian woman, as a third of US-born Asian males do.
Click the link for a picture of the lovely couple, who will probably have high IQ children"
Probably not. PC sluts who keep their last names don't breed.
Posted by: Richard Hoste www.hbdbooks.com | August 30, 2009 at 10:09 PM
"I think the real winners are neither the PUAs nor the alphas, but rather the beta guys who married their high school sweethearts"
How many beta guys had high school sweethearts? If they got laid in high school, they probably wouldn't be betas. Heck, even if they got laid in college they probably wouldn't be betas.
[HS: You're confusing beta with omega.]
Posted by: Fred | August 30, 2009 at 10:11 PM
king obama -
As I've been saying for, well, ages, Game mostly benefits men who don't need it in the first place, the sort of men with take-charge, outgoing personalities who usually can do fairly well with women even if they never heard of Game. The reverse is also true: introverted nerds who have no luck with women aren't likely to be able to apply Game with any degree of competence.
Posted by: Peter | August 30, 2009 at 10:49 PM
"I think the real winners are neither the PUAs nor the alphas, but rather the beta guys who married their high school sweethearts and never had to deal with the dysfunctional dating scene among twenty and thirty-somethings." - H. Sigma.
Hear! Hear! :)
"A lot of books on game seem pretty fucking useless. I would be willing to bet good money that 90-95% of the readers of these books don't get any better at meeting women. In fact, the only use these books have is in separating unsuspecting fools from their hard-earned money." - k obama
'Game' sounds as dodgy as 'get rich quick' schemes in that those who are lapping it up are the down & out types. Those who are decent blokes can already snag sheilas if they want to and don't really need it (except to smooth off a few rough edges). On the other hand, if you meet blokes who admit to being hopeless with women despite knowing 'game' back-to-front you only have to take a look at the way they look & act and it should pretty obvious they're a dud catch.
"Just look at all of the fools who comment on Roissy's blog. A lot of them admit they have trouble getting women (some even admit to being fucking virgins), yet they also seem to be experts at the 'theory' of game because they read Roissy's blog religiously. How is this possible?"
I'm sure many guys fall into the Omega category - they're under the bar for which women will tolerate men. Just as there are women who too fugly to get a man so too are men too dweeby to get a woman (of any half-hearted decency).
"fucking virgin"
Isn't that an oxymoron? ;)
Posted by: Gil | August 30, 2009 at 11:18 PM
D.A. wrote:
"I'd argue that the problem is that the woman will bolt once she has the opportunity to secure sex with alpha males. One must remember that no woman is truly attracted to beta males, and that beta males are at best male friends that they tolerate."
Despite all the grouching in blogdom about how beta males are getting hosed in the dating scene, I have yet to see anyone post any evidence proving it. I have yet to see even any anecdotes about it happening.
So, does anyone have any personal experience losing a girlfriend to an "alpha" male? Does anyone have any friends this has happened to?
Posted by: Kirk | August 31, 2009 at 12:05 AM
"So, does anyone have any personal experience losing a girlfriend to an "alpha" male? Does anyone have any friends this has happened to?"
Hee hee. Kirk, I think my husband's theory sums it up best: "When you don't have a woman, *any* guy with a woman is an alpha male."
As for myself, I'll point out that most men I'd think of as "alpha males" (brawny, aggressive) don't seem to have much money. Also, pasts tend to be littered with troubles such as custody battles and credit problems. A turnoff for many of us (post-high-school) ladies.
Posted by: Sheila Tone | August 31, 2009 at 12:54 AM
If Asian girls despise Asian guys, Asian guys get depressed. If white girls disrepect white man, white man will say `fuck you' and still feel like winner.
http://www.tudou.com/player/outside/player_outside.swf?iid=31867744&default_skin=http://js.tudouui.com/bin/player2/outside/Skin_outside_13.swf&autostart=false&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.friday-nite.com%2F%3Fp%3D1623
[HS: She says she likes Asians because their not "cocky" like white guys. Her Asian boyfriend is very shy--something she accepts that most girls wouldn't.]
Posted by: No room for loser | August 31, 2009 at 01:32 AM
One of the ideas floating around out there is that women are all whores. But that just ain't so. Unlike men, most women, if they have a decent relationship with their husband or boyfriend, have no interest in cheating on their partner. (I'm talking about white and asian women. I don't know about black or hispanic women.)
I agree with Halfsigma that pick-up artists tend to get a biased view since they tend to end up with the sluts. The kind of girl who is willing to go to a night club, meet a man, and have sex with him that very night is also (in my opinion) much more likely to be the kind of girl who would get pregnant from a man other than her husband.
I also agree that "game" is a bit overrated. It's like reading a book on how to get better at a video game. i.e. it can be helpful, but the main thing is just to practice a lot.
And I also agree that the whole PUA lifestyle is overhyped. You just need to find one decent woman.
At the same time, having sex with a lot of different women is fundamentally no different from masturbation, except that (1) you have decent shot of picking up herpes; and (2) there is a small chance of impregnating some slut who will turn around and hit you with a paternity suit but will still be a lousy mother to your child.
Posted by: sabril | August 31, 2009 at 05:22 AM
Wow Hoste, that's hostile. Is she PC? Probably. But a slut? Doubtful, especially if she's marrying an Asian professor. I thought you were more reasonable than that...
Posted by: Prawn | August 31, 2009 at 05:35 AM
"PC sluts who keep their last names don't breed."
Hoste = very bitter beta?
Why is she a slut? How did you pick that out of the NYTimes bio, or the photo?
Posted by: real data | August 31, 2009 at 10:19 AM
*A turnoff for many of us (post-high-school) ladies.*
The general theory from some in the community is that women couldn't be bothered with such turnoffs, they'd continue to have as many opportunities to have sex with "bad guys" if they can't secure the "good alphas". They'd pursue such men even if it would destroy their marriages, careers, and their children.
"Despite all the grouching in blogdom about how beta males are getting hosed in the dating scene, I have yet to see anyone post any evidence proving it. "
There's always that anecdotal evidence that everybody presents of a hard-working male who would technically be a good catch is abandoned for some alpha guy. Then the alphas themselves have their stories about how they've had numerous cases of sex with women in committed long-term relationships. In a number of cases, the girls go right back to their partners who have no clue about the infidelity.
"I'm sure many guys fall into the Omega category"
I happen to be one of those males, and I'd argue that game is best for men who have deprecated alpha tendencies. It is certainly useless for most men with any type of social phobia or any weird or nerdy tendencies. It's usefulness for the average beta males depends on whether one thinks if it's worth spending time and energy on changing your personality to chase slightly better looking women while letting the real alphas still collect the hottest, best looking women. You're picking up the table scraps, but with game, it's slightly better and larger pieces, but you're still missing the full meal on the table.
For what it's worth, I'll admit that I don't bother with women in any sexual fashion because it's far easier to just get my orgasm from masturbation with porn than to go out and deal with the logistics of trying to attract, date, seduce, and have sex with a woman. I'm just too lazy to even ask a woman out on a date because it interferes with my home-work-home routine, and when compounded with disillusionment with women (who meet my standards for sexual attraction) all chasing alpha males, there is no real incentive to bother.
Posted by: David Alexander | August 31, 2009 at 11:27 AM
The PUA makes a lot of helpful observations but it does not understand a few things. The most critical being that not all women are looking for alpha males, alpha type females (especially domineering insecure ones) prefer feminized beta males.
Posted by: Eric | August 31, 2009 at 11:29 AM
Ha ha ha.
Those Asians are so getting hosed in the divorce. Keeping your old name? Stanford MBA program?
Oh boy.
Looks like another divorce lawyer is going to enjoy an extra week in Tuscany.
Posted by: Truth | August 31, 2009 at 01:00 PM
"Wow Hoste, that's hostile. Is she PC? Probably. But a slut? Doubtful, especially if she's marrying an Asian professor. I thought you were more reasonable than that..."
There seems to be a strong correlation between guys who don't get laid --> are bitter --> embrace HBD as the explanation for all that's wrong in the world.
Posted by: Fred | August 31, 2009 at 01:28 PM
I think that the terms “Alpha” and “Beta” are being thrown around so much they are losing their value as categories. Or maybe I misunderstood Roissy’s categories to begin with as I don’t follow him closely.
Seen from the perspective of the Paleolithic Era, an Alpha would have been the best hunter and therefore the best provider. Magnanimity and generosity toward his supporters would have been characteristic traits, a form of “vote buying” if you will. The description of King Hrothgar in Beowulf would be an example from literature. What seems to be described as Alpha behaviour around here is bad-boy stuff which is only a subset of the total portfolio of behaviours of Alphas. A bad-boy who’s otherwise an economic loser, for instance, doesn’t seem to me to be a true Alpha. It may be an effective strategy with some modern women but I don’t think we should use the term Alpha to describe that strategy.
Posted by: JGP | August 31, 2009 at 02:38 PM
I think Gannon meant unSTREACHED virginal girls.
But that's redundant. ;)
Posted by: The Engineer | August 31, 2009 at 04:44 PM
"At the same time, having sex with a lot of different women is fundamentally no different from masturbation, except that (1) you have decent shot of picking up herpes; and (2) there is a small chance of impregnating some slut who will turn around and hit you with a paternity suit but will still be a lousy mother to your child."
Man, your right hand must be GOOD.
Posted by: The Engineer | August 31, 2009 at 04:47 PM
"Slightly off topic, but here is (yet another) Asian male marrying a Caucasian woman, as a third of US-born Asian males do.
Click the link for a picture of the lovely couple, who will probably have high IQ children."
She is golddigging for the doctor/professor.
Posted by: Jack | August 31, 2009 at 04:53 PM
It may well be that game cannot be learned nor taught, but it cannot be doubted that some men, who are not particularly handsome or rich, and are very far from being nice guys, attract women like dogshit attract files - and there are plenty of virgins flinging themselves at those guys, it is just that the sluts are apt to elbow the virgins aside.
Posted by: James A. Donald | August 31, 2009 at 09:56 PM
I would like to see more discussion of game on this blog - but from an HBD perspective, not from the purient roissyite perspective
In my humble opinion, evolution has programmed SOME women to seek out men of average attractiveness - men who might be soft spoken but who make big bucks
evolution has programmed some other women to seek out the most aggressive and confident type men, even when these men are uglier than average and make less money than average.
you can't generalize as much as the "gamers" do
remember that ability to attract females is all situational - trust me, if you visit Phuket, Havana, or Reciffe you see plenty of women who fight like hell to date the American gammas that visit
Posted by: Robert | September 01, 2009 at 01:24 AM
"remember that ability to attract females is all situational - trust me, if you visit Phuket, Havana, or Reciffe you see plenty of women who fight like hell to date the American gammas that visit"
Perhaps not Havana, as Americans aren't allowed to go there.
Posted by: Peter | September 01, 2009 at 09:54 AM
if you are of cuban ancestry you are allowed to visit Havana even if you are an american citizen
but put that aside - go visit many parts of latin america - the local men have the confidence, cockiness , the game. But the local hotties gravitate to the American gammas that visit
I am talking extreme gamma here - guys who look like arvid and wencil.
I'd like another thread on game
There is a huge conflict between hbd and game -
a major point of hbd is that some people are born with high iq and some with low iq. iq you are born with determines the iq you have as an adult. most of the education spending, most of the efforts to take low iq nam children and teach them to do high iq jobs, is a total waste.
attractiveness to women is biologically determined just like iq. But in the case of attractiveness to women, education is a good idea since education can change the outcome
Hmmm - not a lot of consistency there
Posted by: Louis | September 01, 2009 at 10:26 AM
Perhaps not Havana, as Americans aren't allowed to go there.
I'm not sure this is even technically true (isn't the restriction actually on the amount of money you're allowed to spend, or something? For legal reasons?). But in any case, there are a lot of things that 'aren't allowed' that are still widely done...
Posted by: bbartlog | September 01, 2009 at 11:31 AM
As I understand it, unless some exemption applies (family visits, journalists, humanitarian purposes, etc.), Americans are not allowed to spend any money in Cuba. There's no actual restriction on travel, and flights are easily available via Mexico, but the spending restriction makes pleasure travel all but impossible. It's surprising that Obama has not lifted these long-obsolete restrictions.
Posted by: Peter | September 01, 2009 at 03:20 PM
"She is golddigging for the doctor/professor. "
Typical white or black guy reaction - never get depression. Sour-grape is very useful defence. Asian men needs to learn such attitude.
Posted by: Gamer | September 01, 2009 at 06:23 PM
"As I understand it, unless some exemption applies (family visits, journalists, humanitarian purposes, etc.), Americans are not allowed to spend any money in Cuba. There's no actual restriction on travel, and flights are easily available via Mexico, but the spending restriction makes pleasure travel all but impossible. It's surprising that Obama has not lifted these long-obsolete restrictions."
How does that work?
Posted by: Richard Hoste www.hbdbooks.com | September 01, 2009 at 09:12 PM
Wouldn't sluttiness negatively correlate with a higher level of income/achivement/education? My impression is that the Asian guy is marrying one of the more quality girls on the market....
Posted by: jj | September 01, 2009 at 09:30 PM
HS:
"My impression is that only a few super-top-level PUAs such as Style himself are able to use game to pick up regular women. The other PUAs are merely picking up sluts."
game is as effective on regular women as it is on sluts. but as a commenter noted above, sluts are simply better at elbowing out the more modest regular girl competition. and PUAs, given the choice between sex tonight and sex three dates later, will always choose the former. unless they're screening for wife material.
"This book has helped me to understand what Roissy is talking about in his blog."
HS, you'd actually get more understanding of game by reading 'mystery method' and 'magic bullets' than strauss' book, which is more of a character-driven narrative than a description of the fundamentals of game.
"But after reading the book, I think the real winners are neither the PUAs nor the alphas, but rather the beta guys who married their high school sweethearts and never had to deal with the dysfunctional dating scene among twenty and thirty-somethings."
until those beta guys who married their high school sweethearts wake up next to their fat wives and screaming kids ten years down the road.
someone with little understanding:
"I would think you, of all people, would know better than to believe anything a reporter writes for money in the first person."
i met style's girlfriend recently, she's cute. a local PUA here in DC (skilled, but not a top PUA) used to send morning-after cellphone photos of chicks naked in his bed with him to a buddy of mine after they spent the night carousing for targets. while it's impossible to verify the stories without actually being present for the copulation, my impression is that most of these PUA guys are getting some quality poon.
"Some of the targets are probably "sluts" looking for a one-nighter."
and some of them are just cute, cool girls who dig the guy.
"But a lot of them are just emotionally vulnerable and clueless."
are all men emotionally vulnerable and clueless because they fall for a cosmetically enhanced pretty face and gym-toned hot bod?
"They confuse these manipulations with genuine interest from men, and think they'll get a relationship out of it."
game is a tool that can be used for one night stands as well as for building beautiful relationships.
Posted by: roissy | September 02, 2009 at 12:59 AM
"until those beta guys who married their high school sweethearts wake up next to their fat wives and screaming kids ten years down the road"
As I've said about 100,000 times already, it works both ways: men get fat too. Take a look at the stomach of the typical 35+ man and you'll see what I mean. He can no longer see his d**k without using a mirror. If the wife is fat after ten years of marriage the husband is likely to be that way too, and they'll be a good match for each other.
Posted by: Peter | September 02, 2009 at 09:24 AM
Neil Strauss popularized "the game" in the dating community. That's why I was surprised why he refused the pickup challenge from Julian Foxx. Their video is at Foxx's site - http://www.julianfoxx.com. Also, his new book is totally unrelated to dating. Nevertheless, he's a good writer.
Posted by: Drake | September 02, 2009 at 11:12 AM
"As I've said about 100,000 times already, it works both ways: men get fat too."
and as i've replied to you on this hobbyhorse of yours just a few less than 100,000 times already, men's physical appearances are less important to their sexual market value than are women's physical appearances to theirs. a fat husband who has an alpha job/attitude/social status will not lose as many attractiveness points with his wife as a fat wife, no matter what her social station or feminist beliefs, would lose with her husband.
so your gender switheroo is invalid as an argument of any merit.
Posted by: roissy | September 02, 2009 at 07:20 PM
Game can be learned. About 9 years ago, I ran across the alt.seduction.fast newsgroup, read the posts, and some of the reference material the regular posters linked to, and changed how I acted when I was on the prowl.
At the time, I was 34, overweight but not obese (BMI=29), nerdy, average height, employed in a middle-status, middle-income position (I made more than anyone else I knew who wasn't in the IT business, but about 1/3 of my social circle was in the IT business, making more than me), and just barely not perenially broke. I had a couple of years having a lot of fun; dating several women at once, from age 23 to one a year older than me. None of them were 10s, or even 9s, but they were good-looking enough for me, in clothes and when naked. They were enthusiastic about sex, some were into pretty kinky stuff. Some were pretty slutty, some weren't. I've since settled down and gotten married to one of the women I started dating in that period. I'm not worried about her walking out on me and taking me to the cleaners - she makes more money than I do (barely), and owns more property than I do.
If I hadn't learned some game (just by reading on the internet and practicing a little), I'd have ended up in a much less promising situation.
Posted by: Anthony | September 04, 2009 at 01:39 PM
Has anyone else noticed these asian guys trying to post on as many websites as possible that asian guys are now desirable among women and then finding some picture of an asian guy with a white woman. Is this just the reaction to what is happening in the asian males everyday life ie constantly seeing white males hooking up with asian females?
Posted by: Andy | September 06, 2009 at 07:29 AM
"Has anyone else noticed these asian guys trying to post on as many websites as possible that asian guys are now desirable among women and then finding some picture of an asian guy with a white woman. Is this just the reaction to what is happening in the asian males everyday life ie constantly seeing white males hooking up with asian females?'
Yup, my sentiments EXACTLY.
And you know what, their obsessions are getting a little creepy.
C'mon Asian guys, IMO, you are a decent bunch of men. Just be more assertive with your ladies and they wouldn't feel the need to chase after White guys (which I don't like to see myself, BTW).
Posted by: White Boy | September 09, 2009 at 06:10 AM
"Yup, my sentiments EXACTLY"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRRaoUZg060
It is reaction to HS' post about Asian man marries white woman.
http://www.halfsigma.com/2009/08/asian-man-marries-white-woman.html
Posted by: creepy feeling | September 10, 2009 at 03:36 AM
"It is reaction to HS' post about Asian man marries white woman."
Look, I understand, but this is becoming an unhealthy obsession with the guy or guys who keep repeatedly posting the same few links.
Look, don't feel bad, since Asian women do what they do vis-a-vis White men because the pop-culture, left-wing media ENCOURAGES them to do so, and, like almost all women, are essentially slaves to public opinion, you know, what's 'fashionable' ... they think their accruing some status points by having a White dude on their arm, ANY WHITE DUDE.
My last point was most significant, since, like Roissy has repeatedly shown, many, if not most White guys that go out with Asian women are often quite the 'Herb' ... so Asian gals are certainly not 'rejecting' Asian men for supposedly not being 'masculine enough'.
Posted by: White Boy | September 10, 2009 at 07:22 PM
"creepy feeling"
Guess Asian males got those all the time. So media, like HS said, is very important in shaping people's attitude. Does this "creepy feeling" turn into depression?
Posted by: comment | September 11, 2009 at 12:09 PM