De Blasio's wife is black!

With so many black man white woman couples, it's good to see the reverse order interracial couple getting some media attention. White man Bill de Blasio, who won the Democratic runoff for "Public Advocate" (what the heck is that?) is shown with his black wife and biracial children.

De Blasio had the support of Al Sharpton and Charlie Rangel; I don't know if that support is because de Blasio shares their crappy political views, or because his wife is black.

Comments

[Wade Nichols]

"I don't know if that support is because de Blasio shares their crappy political views, or because his wife is black."

It's the former (crappy political views), not the later!

If you want to piss off a black guy, call him the "N word". If you want to get in a fight with a black guy, tell him your wife is black.

"White man Bill de Blasio, who won the Democratic runoff for "Public Advocate" (what the heck is that?) is shown with his black wife and biracial children."

If some of the black people I know (of Jamaican descent mostly) saw that picture, they'd say something like: "What's up with his son's hair? He looks like a likkle pickney!"

[dearieme]

Did they give their children silly names or sensible ones?

[NG]

Rose and Bernard are totally my favorite couple on LOST.

[Turambar]

This only thing I knew about Bill De Blasio because appearently he has been pimping the connection so hard he got all out on it:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/election_2009/2009/09/03/2009-09-03_councilman_barron_calls_out_advocate_candidates_siegel_and_de_blasio_for_race_is.html

http://gothamist.com/2009/09/03/bill_de_blasio_gets_accused_of_play.php
"Apparently a flyer that shows his wife Chirlane (the couple met when they worked in the Dinkins administration) saying, "He gets it," is getting lots of complaints since "the implication is he's married to a black woman so he 'gets us,'" according to a Post source."

Does this officially end the pox of Mark Green running for stuff?

[GMR]

On the Amazing Race this fall, there's an interracial couple with a black woman and white man. The woman, Ericka Dunlap, won Miss America in 2004.

[t]

I saw them listed on some interracial couples website, along with a bunch of others. I knew Robert DeNiro was with a black woman, but I had no idea about George Lucas, Matt Stone, or that prince (Luxembourg, Liechtenstein?), to name a few.

[SecretWhiteLiberal]

Well whoopdee do for ya'll. I guess this is a bit of revenge for you for all those black bucks stealing your women right? (sarcasm)

[The Engineer]

I'd think that you'd use the term "mullato". ;)

Those kids are showing some hybrid vigor. The kid in the front is really handsome, though he needs to lose the Jew-fro.

[HS: I coudn't remember using the term "mullato" is racist or not--the rules about what's racist and what's not are so complicated to follow.]

[Burp]

Bill Cohen's (Clinton's Republican sec of defense) wife is black also, for a better known example.

[ironrailsironweights.wordpress.com]

There was a funny piece about him on Gothamist a month or two ago. A family portrait used in his campaign literature had to be hastily modified when people began pointing out that his daughter was wearing a pendant in the shape of a gun.

One thing that was much more apparent from the campaign picture than in the Times picture is that his children appear almost to be of completely different races. The daughter is far more Caucasian-looking than the son.

Peter

[sestamibi]

So that means Mark Green is toast, right?

Good riddance to a pest who lingered around far too long and wore out his welcome all too long ago.

Now if we can only do the same to Jerry Brown . . .

[Burp]

Very true, Wade. I've noticed there's nothing that pisses many black men off more than seeing a white man with a hot black woman.

[Wade Nichols]

"Did they give their children silly names or sensible ones?"

http://www.billdeblasio.com/meetbill

"Bill and Chirlane live with their two children, Chiara and Dante, in Park Slope, Brooklyn."

I'd say those names are about a 5 on a scale of 1-10, with 10 being the stupidest name possible. Chiara is definitely the worse of the two names, but not as bad as "Chianti" or "Tiara".

"The kid in the front is really handsome, though he needs to lose the Jew-fro."

In De Blasio's case though, it would be a "Dago Fro", but we get your point!

[eh]

If you're biracial you better hope you never need an organ transplant.

[Sid]

It has been generally noted in the HBD community that marriages (and relationships) between black men and white women follow certain dynamics. Usually, black men are appealing on a physical level because of their muscularity, as well as dark skin being a male characteristic. In terms of personality, they tend to be extroverted and charming, which is often very appealing for women. White women, more often than not, are a higher status symbol for black men than black women are, though there is a backlash against this, with pressure being exerted on black men to marry "a sister."

Socially, it isn't rare to see middle and upper class women marry black men who meet their standards, but it generally seems that prole white women gravitate to black men. It is a puzzling sight to see a high-quality black man be in a relationship with a white prole, when there are numerous high-performing black women more than eager to be married to such a fellow.

I wonder what kinds of dynamics exist between white men and black women, then, when they are in a relationship. Thomas Sowell has evidence that black women have higher IQs than black men, and in Africa it is the women who organize society, whereas the men vie for the attraction of the women. There is a lot of frustration among black women about the lack of black men who are up to their standards who aren't dating white women. My supposition is that, once a black woman suspects or concludes that she won't be happily married to a black man, she will go for a white man.

Why do white men go for black women? Generally, white men go for white women, with the nerdier males going for Asians, believing black women to be less attractive than those said groups. Nevertheless, that does not mean that no white man would ever go for a black women. If you have enough high-achieving black women around white men, and the black women open themselves up to the white men, it isn't long before a number of white men will be happily married with black women. Although they are currently a social oddity, to put it bluntly, it's plausible that this configuration will become increasingly regular throughout middle class America, as the biological clock ticks for black women, and a high number of black men remain unavailable to them.

[deery]

That's interesting, from gauging some of Roissy's more vociferous posters, the only black women that white men date are all 10's and/or very white-looking. So she must be a ten then, going by that logic.

[Malamar]

Definitely some hybrid vigor at play here, the kids' attractiveness far exceeds that of their parents.

[coldequation]

If you like that, you'll love this:

http://justlikemecouples.blogspot.com/

[Imposter John]

I wouldn't consider "mulatto" to be a racial slur. I've never heard it used in a derogatory way.

[Gil]

Is that then the height of SWPL/political correctness? A white person marrying and having children with a 'black descendent of slavery' partner? If a white women has to make slave reparations by having sex with a 'black descendent of slavery' guy at least once then so too do white guys with 'black descendent of slavery' women? In other words if she was a black African (i.e. not descended from American slavery at all) instead of African-American then it doesn't count?

[sestamibi]

HS, you may be too young to remember the old organization of NYC government. Back in the old days there was a city council, consisting of 35 (?) members elected from districts, plus two at-large members from each borough. Voters could case a ballot only for one individual for the at-large position, so the top two were elected. This system assured that there would be some GOP representation on the council. There was also something called the "Board of Estimate" a very powerful body that passed on capital budgets and made final decisions on planning matters. The BofE consisted of the three city-wide officials (mayor, president of the city council, and comptroller), and the five borough presidents.
The three city-wide officials got four votes each on the board, and the borough presidents two each.

Somewhere around 1993 (?) a federal court at the behest of the NYCLU threw out the whole scheme since it was skewed toward the smaller boroughs (The Bronx, Staten Island) and violated the "one-man, one-vote" principle.

Under the old regime, the president of the city council was elected directly by the voters, but that position was eliminated by the court decision. So not to do something so brazen as to save the taxpayers a few bucks, the position of Public Advocate was created to replace it.

You asked, "What the heck is that?". Good question, as after 16 years no one yet seems to know.

[rob]

I dunno Sid. Just from looking at people, it seems black women who decide they can't get a decent black man turn to food, not white men.

Also from watching people, the wm/bw lack of attraction seems to be two-way. Black women don't act as if they think white men are attractive. By and large though, this does not seem to greatly concern white men, most likely because they aren't interested either.

[rob]

Gil, I seriously hope that was parody. You sound like the start of Sodini's diary, except less coherent.

[The Engineer]

Why do white men go for black women?

They're good in bed.

[ogunsiron]

The kids' names are italian.
It might mean that the dad is the culturally dominant one in the couple. I don't know about Dante but Chiara is a pretty normal italian female name, at least over there in italy.

[imposter john]

HS, I'm not sure if this is old news or not but I will say it anyway, the Economist (sept 26th - Oct 2nd; pg.60) writes that the SA runner, Caster Semenya, is indeed a hermaphrodite:

"It now appears that Ms Semenya is indeed a hermaphrodite. She has both female and male sex organs, though she did not know this, as her male organs are not visible."

[Rocky]

Some big advantages to marriage with a high-status black woman from the perspective of a white guy who is married and has dated more than one:

1. Better work ethic than white women
2. More fun-loving personalities
3. Higher sex drive and skills (demanding and getting daily foreplay-optional sex is very possible)
4. Age slower than white women, especially in sunny climates
5. Children get affirmative action
6. Even above AA, people LOVE culturally white light-skinned blacks: Obama, Tiger Woods, Halle Berry etc.
7. Automatic "cool" cred in elite circles.
8. As much or more fat where it's good (ass, hips, and breasts) but firmer in places like upper arms, thighs, belly, cankles, etc.

I don't agree black men care if you date "their" women. They are very likely to be interested in people of other races too.

I find black women most attractive when they have lovely dark skin but whitish facial features. This is most common in mixed and east african-descended women.

Biggest downside, even for black women with elite education and jobs, is lower-class relatives.

[t]

"By and large though, this does not seem to greatly concern white men, most likely because they aren't interested either."

This mutual lack of interest seems more common in America (with the exception of Italian-American men, who really seem to have a thing for black women). I've noticed way more bf-wm relationships in Europe and way less fanfare about it.

On an anecdotal level, the three black sisters of a friend of mine who live in Europe who always seem to be drowning in (white) suitors report that there is way less cultural baggage to those relationships over there - white men approach them all the time (though one of them who lives in France says that as a black American she has an elite status that black African women do not).

[Sid]

Rob, you are correct to the extent that bw and wm seldom marry each other. That being said, this topic isn't about the paucity of bw-wm relationships, but the dynamics of those marriages.

I will revise the last paragraph. The children of black women and white men will be mulatto, and probably be among the affirmative action elite, and congregate with that segment of American society. They may pick up a few ghetto mannerisms for show and popularity, but no middle class interracial couple would hope that their children seriously adopt those customs.

Mulattos, in America, are basically black, but are often within the black elite. (Similarly, half-Asian, half-white kids are almost fully white and are basically white kids who can count better) As for black women who prefer food to vanilla? They'll head for extinction, which is a genetic waste.

[The Engineer]

I second Rocky's sex drive comment. It's the difference between 6 O's in one session and one.

[sn]

offtopic:

it appears that that human ancestors in Africa (the Ardipithecus ramidus find) went

bipedal because betas bonked bitches/babes.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/10/091001-ardipithecus-ramidus-ardi-oldest-human-fossils-sex.html

Ardi's Secret: Did Early Humans Start Walking for Sex?

[RDN]

I'm married to a black woman also and second Rocky's post. You do have to train them to be more class-conscious but other than that there are a lot of benefits, at least for an alpha male. If you are too far to the beta side then a black woman might walk all over you in a relationship.

[Ralph]

Engineer wins!

[Linda]

According to Rushton's Nobel prize worthy theory, blacks have the most testosterone & East Asians have the least (with whites in the middle) which tells me that black women will be too masculine for most white men, and especially for East Asian men, and white & especially East Asian men will be too feminine for most black women. So I would expect to see black men dating white women & East Asian women, but I would not expect to see as many black women dating white & East Asian men & the statistsics probably confirm this. Most men want a woman who is less masculine than they are and most women want a man who is more masculine than they are. Thus I hypothesize that black men & East Asian women are the most sexually desired people in the world & black women & East Asian men are the least desired.

[Sid]

I don't really see what Rushton could get a Nobel prize for anyway. Medicine? Not really. Peace? I can't see how that would fly. Literature? It's not literary. Economics? Ehhhh...

[Linda]

"Thomas Sowell has evidence that black women have higher IQs than black men, and in Africa it is the women who organize society, whereas the men vie for the attraction of the women."

This is not supported by the data. As far as we know, women in all races are bit less intelligent than men, & blacks are no exception.

[Linda]

"Definitely some hybrid vigor at play here, the kids' attractiveness far exceeds that of their parents."

I'm not sure if you get much hybrid vigour when an African American mates with a white because the average African American is already 17-25% white (less so in the South). Now if you mate a virtuallyy pure black African with a white you have a better chance of getting hybrid vigour (Obama)& Obama's kids may also show some limited hybrid vigour because they're a mix of Barack's East African genes & Michelle's West African genes. Too bad the Obama's don't have a son, because the hybrid vigour combined with the impressive height of both Obamas could have produced a very tall man & tall men do well in politics.

[Linda]

"I find black women most attractive when they have lovely dark skin but whitish facial features. This is most common in mixed and east african-descended women."

Yes, a lot of East Africans have negroid skin but caucasoid shaped skulls & facial morphology such as a narrow nose, smaller jaw, less prognathism which caused them to historically get better treatment from the Europeans & Arab slave traders. Part of this is because there's a lot of caucasoid (middle Eastern) genes in East Africa, especially Ethopia which is nearly half middle Eastern genetically, but I believe East Africans are also naturally more caucasoid looking. It could be because incipient caucasoids first evolved in East Africa before branching out into the middle East & eventually Europe & East Africans can be viewed as a missing link between the first humans (negroids) and more recent humans (caucasoids). Caucasoids themselves are a missing link between negroids and the mongoloids. Native Americans are probably the missing link between caucasoids & mongoloids.

I believe part of the reason America was willing to elect Obama was because not only is he half white, but his black half is the more caucasoid looking East African, as opposed to the West African herritage of most U.S. blacks.

[The Undiscovered Jew]

Look, Sigma!

http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2009/9/30/media-reactions-to-yamal.html

http://planetgore.nationalreview.com/post/?q=Y2Q5ZGExZTc3ZTlmMTA5OTdhOGRjNzdlNmU4N2M4ZTg=

[The Undiscovered Jew]

I think this new information desrves a new blog-post because there is very little reporting on this story in GoogleNews:

http://www.climateaudit.org/

YAD06 - the Most Influential Tree in the World

http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=7241

The Register picks up the Yamal story

http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=7244

[The Undiscovered Jew]

More Yamal tree ring temperature data: this data is flat as roadkill

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/09/30/more-yamal-tree-ring-temperature-data-this-data-is-flat-as-roadkill/

[The Undiscovered Jew]

Ross McKitrick sums up the Yamal tree ring affair in the Financial Post

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/10/02/ross-mckitrick-sums-up-the-yamal-tree-ring-affair-in-the-financial-post/#more-11404

[The Undiscovered Jew]

Quote of the week #20 – ding dong the stick is dead

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/09/27/quote-of-the-week-20-ding-dong-the-stick-is-dead/

[Sid]

Linda, if you are who I suspect, then clearly you're in the know with psychometrics. However, I know that Steve Sailer investigated the AFQT results, and found that white military women score .8 higher on the test to white men, whereas black women score 2.4 points higher than black men. The info comes from Charles Murray, how is the reasoning here off?

http://isteve.blogspot.com/2005/12/do-black-women-have-higher-iqs-than.html

[Linda]

There are some studies showing women are smarter than men, but as far as I can tell, the largest studies & the majority of studies show the opposite:

http://www.psychology.uwo.ca/faculty/rushtonpdfs/2006%20Intell%20Jackson%20&%20Rushton.pdf

The IQ difference between the sexes is small so depending on the amount of sampling error & sampling bias & the particular test used, different researchers may reach opposite conclusions.

[Sid]

Yes, I remember Lynn having a similar report. Females are, if anything, smarter than their male peers during their adolescent years. That might be so because females mature faster than males, so that when they reach adulthood, men will have an edge over females IQ wise.

Male writers have often lambasted women over the centuries, depicting them as being averse to abstract thinking and generally simple in their intelligence. This is, I think, largely because men have a wider distribution IQ-wise than women. Meaning that although men and women are similar in terms of intelligence, there are more hyperintelligent men who are psychologically isolated from the whole of humanity, and since women are more "average" intelligence wise, extremely bright men will lump them together as being stupid, which isn't true statistically but is all the same in their perspective.

It seems like black women are, in general, much more socially responsible than black men. There are more women in college than men, but this seems especially so with blacks. I know that Rushton theorizes that blacks and Asians are a continuum with whites in the center over a myriad of traits, yet nevertheless, I think it's plausible that there is something deeper at work. It isn't just that Asians are blacks with smaller bodies and bigger heads, but also that a set of norms exist among blacks which don't exist among Asians. What I mean is that blacks aren't just less conscientious than Asians, but that have specific gender roles where black women are the heads of the families, and that black men compete for their attraction, whereas Asians, by their social nature, have men dominate the families and have women tend to child care and the like. Any criticism for this idea would be much appreciated.

[Linda]

"What I mean is that blacks aren't just less conscientious than Asians, but that have specific gender roles where black women are the heads of the families, and that black men compete for their attraction, whereas Asians, by their social nature, have men dominate the families and have women tend to child care and the like. Any criticism for this idea would be much appreciated."

Well this relates to Rushton's theory in that he argues that East Asians are the most K selected race (i.e. most parental care, least reproductive output) while blacks are the most r selected (i.e. most reproductive output, least parental care) with whites in the middle. Thus it would make sense that East Asian women would be entirely devoted to childcare.

Keep in mind also (and I think Rushton or Lynn might have discussed this) that the gender roles did not become as differentiated in Africa because women have more independence in a warm climate where they can gather their own food.

When humans migrated out of Africa to the cold climates of Europe and especially cold climates of East Asia, women were forced to depend on men to hunt for them & their children during the winter. Thus evolution predisposed non-black women to be subordinate & dependent on men; black women by contrast have maintained their independence. That's probably one reason why black women are less likely to get married than non-black women, even when they have babies. They're just genetically more independent & feel they can make it without a man.

[xxxxx]

Linda, that's not true. Black women would very much like to get married. They just don't have men that would marry them. Non-black men are for the most part not interested, and, for the middle class/highly educated black women, there aren't enough black men with similar status to marry them.

These middle class/highly educated black women will not stoop down to marry black men who are socioeconomically lower than them for the simple reason that all women are hypergamous.

Linda, your comment is a classical example of a 'just so' story.

[Linda]

I think it's perfectly logical to hypothesize that marriage is less important to black women. As I explained, pair bonding was not essential to the survival of women in Africa they way it was in colder climates (do you really dispute this?), so why would women of African ancestry have evolved as much desire to spend the rest of their life with one man, especially when you factor in Rushton's theory that blacks follow a less K reproductive strategy, which makes them less inclined towards stable families and drawn to more numerous partners? I don't dispute that sociological factors also play a big role, but this pattern seems to exist all over the world. Even blacks in Africa are less monogamous suggesting genetics may be at work. As Toni Morrison once opined, marriage is a Eurocentric institution & needs to be abolished.

[xxxxx]

The argument isn't that marriage is a Eurocentric institution but that the differences between the human races are so deep that it affects mate selection/bonding. It's perfectly logical to come up with many "just-so" stories, but that doesn't make them true. Your taking what is clearly merely sociological and arguing that it is rooted in genetics. I mean, "pair bonding was not essential to the survival of women in africa the way it was in colder climates"? Really? Did pair bonding develop only after the races split up? The only thing that held white families together was society/religion and not a unique instinct for family formation developed during the Ice Age. Indeed, observe the trend towards serial monogamy/high divorce rate in Western countries -- it would seem to go against your own thesis.

[Harmony]

"I find black women most attractive when they have lovely dark skin but whitish facial features. This is most common in mixed and east african-descended women."

This is EXTREMELY offensive.

[shelby webster]

This is why I am writing a controversial book concerning race in America. The ignorant posts and comments here, chats and society. First, black women are wanted and have been by white men since slavery. White men had to rape to get a black woman. Black women are not attracted to white men that is the problem. White men always want to know why black women don't want them. White features amusing. White womnen are old looking even when they are teenagers. There is a jealousy that white women have toward black women even though she (white) is "suppose"
ALPHA bitch. Why? Because she can't understand why she is the dominant woman but the white male cannot keep his eyes off the black woman. The answer, why can't he? because she is more beautiful. Black women don't have to have white features being black has been the predominant attraction. It is very known white women are easy so therefore men are attracted sexually to them. Men like a woman who he can dominate and non combative, white women fit the image. White women do more sexually "nasty" porn sex than black women do. When a black man wants oral sex he goes to a white woman. When he wants anal sex he goes to a white woman. When he wants to pull a train with all his boys it is a white girl party. OH drunk white girls. All of you on here are amusing, immature and haters. If you would take some time to love yourselves than you could stop seeing your God like golden images of the white self. LOL!!!

[shelby webster]

To continue my comments... No one says anything when black and white men date and marry substandard white women. Most white women are uneducated and trashy. Black men date ghetto white girls, and fat trailer park trash white girls. Black women are emotionally and financially independent. White women are needy and desperate and will marry whatever they can settle for to not be alone. I find it amusing whites in the state of the economy can't see how whites believe they are the OMEGA. lol... Black women have been able to get white men since slavery and in Europe they are highly sought after. Black men hate it when black women date white men. They want black women to be sitting at home angry and bitter over them when they can't even keep jobs, stay out of prison and get an education. snickering... The only men black men white women have is athletes... and they are nasty groupies who sleep with manyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy....
women. LOL Black women don't want nasty men. White women have been with EVERY RACE of MEN. YUCK! nasty skanks! The only reason this country elected a black man because they couldn't stand other women running shit and they hated REPUBLICANS more! LMFAO. Get a REALITY CHECK! Black women could care less about you NOBODIES they will be here as long as this earth exists!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[l]

All of your comments make me weep for humanity.