Occupy Wall Street movements have attracted homeless people. That is, real homeless people and not middle class people pretending to be homeless. The middle-class SWPL types are in a quandary. Kicking out the real homeless people makes them seem not much different than the evil capitalists; though only because of the way they have framed things. The bottom of the 99% are not welcome at OWS.
I hold out hope that OWS folks will realize that the lumpen-proletariat can't be part of a true Marxist movement.
Nobody likes homeless people. It signifies that something is inherently wrong with people if they cant find a place to live.
Posted by: Odds | October 31, 2011 at 09:33 PM
"I hold out hope that OWS folks will realize that the lumpen-proletariat can't be part of a true Marxist movement."
Your boss denied you a raise., didn't he?
Posted by: The Undiscovered Jew | October 31, 2011 at 09:55 PM
Include that insight in your next pamphlet. Wear a Che shirt.
Posted by: The Secret of NAM | October 31, 2011 at 10:33 PM
NY beta-Times readers are NOT going to like the idea of their 'inspirational' protesting children mixing with the actual dregs of society.
I predict this farce will end in short order.
Posted by: Gender Studies Major | October 31, 2011 at 11:13 PM
@GST
I'm beginning to reach the same comclusion.
This whole thing was pretty neat-o, back when the MSM was refusing to report on it, but now it's just a sad, pale charicature of the sixties.
Waving hands instead of clapping? Censoring free speech? Covering up for rapists? And nothing but the most idiotic, schizophrenic manifesto...
They're fast becoming a farce, with no real staying power. I expect that when winter rolls around, they'll go back home. Exhausted from their protests, knowing they accomplished very little. They dull ache of coitus-interruptus throbbing in their gut.
The energy of a whole generation ain't worth so much, can't even get back up to the High Water Mark that Hunter wrote about.
Posted by: Aurini | October 31, 2011 at 11:47 PM
Good. As soon as some homeless bum does something crazy (shitting in the street, masturbating in public, attempting a rape) it's gonna be used to smear OWS. The protesters recognize this and are taking preemptive action.
Posted by: Commander Shepard | November 01, 2011 at 12:54 AM
Eh, the issue doesn't seem to be homeless people per se -- at least one of the guys profiled at the park (the resident sign painter) says he's homeless, living in a men's shelter. He's also a fairly well-spoken, clean-looking (probably because he takes showers at the shelter at night), sober, middle-aged guy. The issue is probably incoherent, filthy, stoned/drunk, mentally-ill homeless people, who are clearly coming for the gourmet grub, etc.
Posted by: DaveinHackensack | November 01, 2011 at 04:35 AM
the whole thing is getting more hippie-alike. They not only attract homeless, but also all kinds of weird religious groups, including Muslims, and of course there are not short of real thugs lurking within the protesters for some looting like what happened in Rome.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBbQ4nSE2U4
Posted by: Theslittyeye.wordpress.com | November 01, 2011 at 05:12 AM
But then again, the question is when this no-sense would end?
Posted by: Theslittyeye.wordpress.com | November 01, 2011 at 05:13 AM
Perhaps it was wrong to think that the way to change an institution was to squat in as close a proximity as possible to its buildings?
Posted by: proleishplumber | November 01, 2011 at 07:43 AM
proleishplumber,
Yeah, we should elect a black guy.
Posted by: davver | November 01, 2011 at 09:54 AM
"They're fast becoming a farce, with no real staying power. I expect that when winter rolls around, they'll go back home. Exhausted from their protests, knowing they accomplished very little....The energy of a whole generation ain't worth so much...." - Aurini
They raised global awareness to their cause and taught the plutocrats that people aren't nearly as dumb as they think.
America has never been more ripe for the rise of a third party.
Posted by: Commander Shepard | November 01, 2011 at 11:23 AM
How convenient to pitch one's tent at a well supported protest rather than down by the river, where I usually see the homeless hanging out. A guy could get killed down there.
Posted by: jeanne | November 01, 2011 at 12:05 PM
The homeless probably make the number of OWS protesters look more impressive than they really are. It also makes the group more diverse since most homeless people in Manhattan tend to be black or Hispanic. If it wasn't for the homeless, the OWS protesters would probably be little more than a small group of white college grads from upper middle class backgrounds.
Posted by: Joe Walker | November 01, 2011 at 12:54 PM
Quote: "Nobody likes homeless people. It signifies that something is inherently wrong with people if they cant find a place to live."
True, but what do we do about this problem?
Posted by: Joe Walker | November 01, 2011 at 12:56 PM
@ Joe Walker
We tell people to avoid drugs, avoid the wrong lifestyles, avoid toxic environments, avoid bad influences, etc. We oppose cultural Marxism. There are lots of way to go wrong in life and only a few ways to do things right.
Posted by: Commander Shepard | November 01, 2011 at 03:24 PM
I just went to Walmart to buy a kettlebell and saw people who were part of the lumpen-proletariat class.
While waiting in line at the cashier, the lady behind me had ten 2 liter soda pop bottles in her shopping cart. Seriously folks I am not making this up. The man in front of me was in such an unkept state I can only assume he was unemployed. He too also had a sweet tooth judging by the packs of candy he was holding with both hands.
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Posted by: E | November 02, 2011 at 05:48 AM
"I hold out hope that OWS folks will realize that the lumpen-proletariat can't be part of a true Marxist movement."
But we should hope they keep trying, and keep self-identfiying with the lumpenproletariat. Marxist behavior should destroy Marxism.
Posted by: ErisGuy | November 02, 2011 at 09:10 AM
Is this really cultural Marxism? The eastern bloc nations didn't allow homelessness, did they?
Posted by: CamelCaseRob | November 02, 2011 at 04:48 PM