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December 27, 2011

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How bout a Jewish blogger on the Jewish Question?

[HS: There are several self-hating Jews over at the Lew Rockwell site.]

HS, that's exactly the problem: the people who want to help blacks don't believe in HBD (either de facto, or at least that it's a MORAL imperative to reject it); and the ones who believe in HBD aren't really interested in helping blacks.

Personally, I think we need new solutions to problems rooted in their poor decision-making, like unwed parenthood, crime, and dropping out of school. But no one wants to take differential intelligence into account in order to solve them.

We don't have a Black HBD blogger, but we do have the next best thing: a Pakistani of Muslim background, Razib of GNXP@DiscoverMagazine. Trouble is (or maybe it's a good thing?), he sticks mainly to the science and not the social aspects. And everything that is not mainstream Pop-Sci doesn't seem to attract throngs of liberals of moderate IQ.

Pull from one of the several black game/traditionalist bloggers.

Any idiot can pretend to be black on the internet and run a blog, we need some blacks on the street.

Imagine the "berkley affirmative action bake sale" viral video but the people running it were black...

Michael Jackson appeared to be a huge believer, despite being black. His publicist bob jones claimed Jackson did not like to hire blacks and used to refer to them as "splaboos" and according to vanity fair, his maid claimed he bleached himself because blacks are not liked as much as other races.  Such bleaching might have caused lupus/vitiligo and he also risked his health by shrinking his nose to very small and Caucasian looking.  According to an anonymous letter by someone claiming to have personally known Jackson, he regarded blacks as intellectual inferior especially at business:


http://love.motion-forum.net/t1556-this-comment-will-smack-you-in-the-eye

According to fox news, he even tried to con blacks into starting a race war to save him from child molestation accusations:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,199236,00.html


He also told Martin bashire that when selecting a woman to be the mother of his kids, he wanted to know their intelligence level. Based on appearances, he did not use any black sperm or eggs to create any of his three kids.


Jackson also said in many interviews that he felt blacks have the most rhythm of any race which once again shows his HBD ideology.

He also regarded Jews as leaches (value transferrers?):

http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=CA#/watch?v=5X6dQ9go7SQ

It's not uncommon for NAMs to espouse a magical form of HBD, aka "we are superior at all that is cool, and everything else is for squares and tools anyway."

[HS: This is not magical at all, but a standard human psychological trait to place a higher value on what you are good at and a lower value on what you are not good at. For this reason, I don't see why the truth of HBD would change any black behavior: they already place a low value on education, so why would scientific proof of what they already subconsciously believe change anything? To the contrary, HBD might even motivate a few blacks to attempt prove HBD wrong by trying harder than they would have at education, and that would be a good thing.]

Your best bet is to find an HBDer mulatto.

What about Ogunsiron? He's a Haitian who was raised in West Africa. On some blogs he's even advocated eugenics to improve the black population.

It used to be that white HBDers thought whites were superior because they were thought to be the oldest race and thus had the most time to evolve (coon) or if creationist, as the oldest race they were thought to reflect God's original creation, and other races represented degradation in different directions from God's divine creation.

However around the 1980s it was discovered through mitochondrial DNA that all modern humans emerged in Africa only 200,000 years ago so blacks are actually the oldest race. Rushton invoked the antiquity of blacks as part of his theory that they were less advanced than caucasoids and especially the genetically young Mongoloids, however black supremacists used the antiquity of blacks to argue that blacks are superior because all races come from blacks and thus blacks are the parents of caucasoids ( and the grandparents of Mongoloids) and the bible says to respect your parents

"There are a lot of Jewish HBD bloggers, but non-liberal Jews are considered bigoted white people by everyone except the Stormfront crowd."

We don't need blacks, we need white people. If you have enough white people supporting you, you don't need to worry about what minorities think.

I'd rather just purge the paranoid antisemite paleocons and alt righters THor-whorshippers who are dumbing down HBD and driving out intelligent white republicans and libertarians than worry about looking good to racial minorities.

"Asian HBD bloggers are great because they confuse liberals"

Stop worrying about confusing liberals and worry more about appealing to high IQ white republicans and libertarians.

HBD doesn't go anywhere without mainstream republicans.

The biggest problem we have is that older paleocons and antisemites are dumbing down HBD forums and driving out high IQ libertarians and mainstream republicans, even on Jewish run blogs like this one and Moldbug's, you can see the decline in comment quality by looking at threads from a few years ago and comparing them to HBD threads today. The decline in quality has been shocking as antisemites and paleocons/Odin Worshippers have poured into HBD, though this blog has been one of the best (and one of the most popular HBD blogs according to Quantcast) in the HBD sector because you appeal more to younger, white republicans and libertarians.

The paleocons and antisemites need to go from HBD.

If you have enough white conservatives on your side you don't need to hide behind a racial minorities skirt.

It's also pointless to try to look good to liberals because they only respond to emotional appeals that fit their liberal bubble.

Better to just jump right over them and go straight for white republicans and libertarians and ignore whether you have minorities blogging with you or not.

"He's a Haitian who was raised in West Africa. On some blogs he's even advocated eugenics to improve the black population."

According to the book In the Name of Eugenics, many early black civil rights leaders in the early 20th century supported eugenics to improve the black gene pool because they recognized they were behind whites.

We just need a black blogger who will argue that blacks (on average) are getting what they deserve and merit. It can be independent of HBD.

The MSM has a stranglehold on information in that every racial "gap" can be explained away but white and/or institutional racism, rather than behavior or less ability.

Undiscovered Jew, you're goal is to convince HBD people that people who are a problem for Jews (paleocons) are also a problem for the HBD movement thus manipulating HBD people to aid in your battle against anti-Semites. This reminds me of neocons who convinced Americans that countries that were a problem for Israel (Iraq, Iran) were also a problem for America.

[HS: We never attacked Iran, and in fact it looks like we are going to let them get nuclear weapons. And our war against Iraq began after Saddam conquered the Sunni Muslim nation of Kuwait; Israel had nothing to do with that war. It's funny that Muslims make war against other Muslims and the Jews are somehow blamed for that. If anything, without the hatred of Jews to unite the Muslims, there would probably be even more violence between Islamic nations.]

Razib is not Pakistani but Bangladeshi. And these days he earns his living by blogging, so unlike the earlier days of GNXP, he has to be "respectable" and not overly "racist".

A black blogger writing about how blacks are stupid and violence-prone? Don't hold your breath.

"Undiscovered Jew, you're goal is to convince HBD people that people who are a problem for Jews (paleocons) are also a problem for the HBD movement thus manipulating HBD people to aid in your battle against anti-Semites."

1) The antisemites are a marketing problem because a majority of white Republican voters think God will curse them if they don't support the Jews.

The anti-semites are also paranoid and stupid, which also makes marketing HBD to white Repuublicans harder.

2) Why should HBD Jews put up with antisemites/paleocons who would kill us if they had the power to do so?

Why are Jews obligated to work with people who hate us?

"It's funny that Muslims make war against other Muslims and the Jews are somehow blamed for that."

Since the end of the Cold War, America has been going to war to defend Muslims, not Israeli Jews.

The Iraq war was designed to get Muslims to love us by rebuilding their country with democracy as if Iraq was some peaceful Easter European country that only needed to be liberated to thrive. Defending Israel wasn't our objective, though the objective failed because the Iraqis keep blowing up the infrastructure we're building for them.

"for the HBD movement thus manipulating HBD people to aid in your battle against anti-Semites."

I don't know why you're shocked that HBD Jews aren't going to work with you.

We already have a number of HBD Jewish researchers like Steven Pinker, Jason Richwine in addition to HBD bloggers like Sigma and Moldbug who aren't fans of paleoconservative antisemites.

What incentive do we have to work with antisemites and were under the impression any of the HBD Jews were going to look favorably on you guys?

Half sigma, there's an enormous amount of evidence that the 2003 Iraq war was largely because of Israel:

"General Wesley Clark, the retired NATO commander and former presidential candidate, said in August 2002 that "those who favor this attack now will tell you candidly, and privately, that it is probably true that Saddam Hussein is no threat to the United States. But they are afraid that at some point he might decide if he had a nuclear weapon to use it against Israel."4 In January 2003, a German journalist asked Ruth Wedgwood, a prominent neoconservative academic and a member of the influential Defense Policy Board (chaired by Richard Perle), why the journalist should support the war. I could "be impolite," Wedgwood said, "and remind Germany of its special relationship with Israel. Saddam presents an existential threat to Israel. That Is simply true." Wedgwood did not justify the war by saying that Iraq posed a direct threat to Germany or the United States.5"

http://mailstar.net/iraq-war.html

[HS: You have this backwards. Iraq never had any nuclear weapons. The threat to Israel was made up as a justification for the attack on Iraq, which Bush wanted to do in order to finish what his father started, and based on a believe that we could fix Iraq and make it a peaceful democracy. Israel never asked the U.S. to attack Iraq. Just the opposite, Israel warned us NOT to attack Iraq:

http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=39051 ]

How would you feel about a liberal HBD blogger?

[HS: Some commenters think that I'm a leftist.]

Half sigma, the article you link to appears to be revisionist history. CBS reported just the opposite back in 2002:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/08/18/world/main519037.shtml

And your argument that the threat to Israel was made up to sell the war to Americans doesn't pass the smell test, because why would Americans want to sacrifice their blood, treasure and popularity to defend a foreign country more than capable of defending itself. What was made up was the threat to America, thus you had a majority of Americans believing Saddam had serious links to Al Queda.

As for bush wanting to invade Iraq to finish his father's job, that sounds a bit like amateurish psychobabble of the Freudian variety. While the neocons surrounding bush may have used his father's legacy as a talking point to manipulate bush, the evidence shows they had an interest in invading Iraq long before bush did. Indeed, the book "The Israel lobby" claims that Paul wolfawitz was nagging bush so much about Hussein that he was asked to stop because it was getting on Bush's nerves.

[HS: Or maybe this aid to Ariel Sharon said what he said because Bush WANTED him to in order to build support for an attack on Iraq.

Regarding why this helped Bush: a majority of Americans are pro-Israel, that's why. In contrast, not many Americans were pro-Muslim in the year after 9/11.]

"How would you feel about a liberal HBD blogger?" - Gina

There already is one his name is Robert Lindsay. He says HBD proves the need for NAMs to be given public assistance.

http://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/

"there's an enormous amount of evidence that the 2003 Iraq war was largely because of Israel"

Oh please, use some sense. Israel does NOT benefit if the USA gets involved in a stupid, draining war and thus weakens itself while energizing Muslim hate. Israel was doing just fine under the status quo pre-2003.

I doubt there will ever be much black presence in the HBD world. Has there ever been much black presence in any scientific area? It happens, but it is rare. Beyond that, I think blacks sense that it isn't good for their co-ethnics to promote HBD. I'm of the mind that people do act, at least somewhat, out of a desire to promote their own ethnic interests. I believe there have been studies that showed blacks were a bit more ethnocentric than Whites. So, combine lower IQ with strong self-deception on this issue, and I doubt you will see many HBD bloggers.

Which is too bad, because a eugenics program (voluntary) is just what blacks need. If they could stop the bottom 25% in terms of IQ and anti-social traits from reproducing, it would do wonders for them and for all of us.

What about Thomas Sowell?

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/sowell100102.asp

Not only is he a prolific author and public intellectual, but he has tackled race and IQ head on. He accepts the reality of group mean differences in IQ and even goes out of his way to praise Jensen, who is the anti-Christ to the PC race fascists.

Now, granted I wouldn't call him a proponent of HBD. In fact, by addressing the issue head-on, he is able to make the strongest case AGAINST large gene-based differences in IQ between the races.

But unlike Gould and all of the other utterly dishonest HBD-critics, Sowell tackles the issue in good faith. The biggest immediate problem for HBD proponents is that they hold a heretical viewpoint. Having someone like Sowell defend their right to exist in the face of the Grand Inquisitor who feels otherwise is probably a good start.

-Mercy

Another idea would be to translate what some Chinese academics have published about race and IQ.

The Chinese inspire awe right now because Mao screwed the country up so badly that even us stupid, semi-literate American workers are on average literally 6 times more productive than Chinese and can therefore grow at 10% a year no matter how corrupt and incompetent the Chinese government is.

This confuses the hell out of the American lefto-fascists because they aren't quite sure if they should be condemning the Chinese for embracing capitalism so enthusiastically or if they should praise them for finding a form of market socialism (aka fascism) that seems to work.

My experience is that East Asians have absolutely no qualms in discussing HBD.

When I was living in Beijing, a Chinese professor I knew had a book listing the mean IQ of every race and nation and no the numbers didn't come from "IQ and the Wealth of Nations".

-Mercy

[HS: I've written before about China and HBD:

http://www.halfsigma.com/2010/07/proof-of-hbd-coming-from-china.html ]]

If you want to appeal to blacks, you have to seriously downplay the white/black IQ gap and focus more on class IQ disparities. This will be a serious uphill battle given the great volume of material by HBD writers specifically on blacks. Blacks want black problems such as the relatively high black crime rate to go away too. Although the current crime disparity between whites and blacks is probably inflated due to racism, a real, glaring disparity nonetheless exists that needs to be scrutinized.


I actually thought about this the other day, but remembered that blacks wouldn't be for it despite the problems with inner city schools not being solved by simply throwing money at them. Access to cultural capital is important, but in order to access said capital an individual must either come across it naturally or go out of his/her way to discover it. The later is obviously the way inner city children will come across it, but a person needs the motivation and incentive to care for it. In other words, a massive overhaul of the culture must take effect and corporations have much power in this regard. Class is also a frequently ignored element in said areas of study while race takes on a great importance.

There is plenty of blamestorming regarding inner-city problems, and even among liberal rainbow coalitions, blacks may accuse blacks that are more successful and other minorities of "selling out" and initiate a race Olympics. The blacks who succeeded did so because they learned the rules of the game and to play it well.


Asians whose parents were peasant rice farmers and indeed many of the parents themselves had a meteoric rise to America's middle class while many descendants of Irish and Italian immigrants from the 19th century are still working class. What did these Asians do right? Having an outsider's view of America surely helped things along, but (American) blacks are not outsiders (even Asians whose families have been in America for many generations are thought of as "outsiders"), given their length of time within and contributions to this country.


The HBD blogosphere needs a better name than "HBD" and more people with a sense of humor than it needs blacks.

"What did these Asians do right?"

East Asians on average are smarter than the Irish and Southern Italians.

"Having an outsider's view of America surely helped things along"

The Irish and Italians weren't even viewed as being white when they came to America and the Irish were the poster children for the Know Nothing movement. This coming on the heels of the famine and about 1200 years of Norse and English occupations, so the Irish felt like outsiders in Ireland, let alone America where they were despised, so the "outsiders" view has nothing to do with success.

"ven Asians whose families have been in America for many generations are thought of as "outsiders""

According to who?


Blacks have no incentive to support HBD: it says nothing good about them. Jews can at least make a case that HBD proves we have value: if Hitler hadn't been obsessed with racial purity, he might have gotten the Bomb. Also, I think Jews are less afraid of White Americans in general; only Jew I can think of who got lynched in America was Leo Frank in Georgia at the turn of the century.

The real split between the Jews and the paleocons, apart from the obvious racial polemics inherited from the Nazis, has to do with immigration (which even conservative Jews support) and support for Israel. Like it or not, the neocons dragged us into that stupid Iraq war because they thought it would make Israel safer. Plenty of liberal Jews opposed the war, but the paleocons aren't going to like them either.

There are a few Jewish paleolibertarians, but reining in AIPAC and decreasing support for Israel is very, very scary to most Jews: if America doesn't give Israel money and guns, it will be destroyed by its neighbors. If Israel dies, and America goes Nazi, where are we going to go?

How would you feel about a liberal HBD blogger?

[HS: Some commenters think that I'm a leftist.]

Posted by: Gina | December 27, 2011 at 02:20 PM
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The blog Occidental Ascent is run by a self described liberal who's deeply into HBD.

Yes, I have advocated eugenics here and there :)

I don't think my ideas are developed or deep enough to support a blog. Then again, many bloggers have said that that writing one is what forced them to organize and solidify their knowledge on various topics so who knows.

I remember David said HBD made him sad as a potential black parent.

I'm a black female HBD-believer. My favorite blogs are this one and onestdv. I also love the website American Renaissance. I recently commented on a post on jewamongyou and he encouraged me to start my own blog. I won't be doing that for a while, though. I'm a college student and I've only read a couple of books on the subject of race and intelligence so far (Why Race Matters by Michael Levin and Intelligence, Race, and Genetics by Frank Miele, etc.). AR has some excellent book reviews and articles. The most painful thing about being a race realist is not being able to share such an awesome magazine/newsletter with people for fear of being shunned.

I once commented on David Alexander's blog telling him we should start a support group of black HBD-believers but he never responded.

James Watson said in his book Avoid Boring People that all the genes that correspond to high IQ will have been found by 2023. I guess as long as nobody tries to repatriate me and my family back to Nigeria I'm okay with any future policy changes.

I've come across a number of black bloggers who certainly are frank about their frustration with many elements of black culture and other black people. Of course they are writing for a black audience -- given how hostile many HBD people are about blacks, I don't see why a black person would write anything aimed for us.

"Jackson also said in many interviews that he felt blacks have the most rhythm of any race which once again shows his HBD ideology."

It is sad and ironic that Jackson did not choose to pass on his genes, instead commisioning white people for his kids.

Hey Half: Maybe you should do a more detailed post about what HBD and the sphere have to offer a black blogger. I'm sure you can see where many intelligent black people would be scared away at first glance. And it takes a lot to maintain a blog by oneself -- a black person inclined to agree with you might be employed, with a family, and have other responsibilities that interfere with such a hobby. Maybe you could offer a guest spot to a black blogger?

As a black person who has read HBD blogs on and off for years, I don't think blacks will ever be fully supportive of the policy implications that HBD bloggers argue for. Less welfare? No way! More policing of black neighborhoods? Less way!! Most blacks probably accept at some level that our race contributes less to society than other population groups, but they blame that on "society." And plus, even if HBD is true, that doesn't necessarily mean that we should end the welfare state, as many HBD-ers seem to argue. One could easily argue the other way...

The idea of HBD itself is totally foreign to most blacks, since the vast majority of blacks are religious and believe god made everyone equal. The theory of evolution (the best and most rational explanation for HBD) is just high-falutin' rigmarole to blacks. Plus add on top of that the history of using various explanations (religious and scientific) to justify black oppression (whether or not you guys believe racism ever occurred, it has), makes HBD entirely unpalatable to folks of African descent- sorry to burst you guys' bubbles, but black HBD-bloggers will never happen.

And BTW, I don't think the commenter Y is actually black. I don't even think David Alexander is black because half the stuff he types is just too comical to even be real. Obsidian files is a blog written by a black guy who is familiar with HBD, but seems to think it's a bunch of bunk.

"Blacks have no incentive to support HBD: it says nothing good about them"

That's not true. Rushton claims blacks have larger sexual anatomy and secondary sexual characteristics (it fits into his r/K theory). I'm sure many men would happily trade 20 IQ points for a larger male appendage and many women would do the same for larger breasts and buttocks. Rushton also claims blacks have more testosterone, more sociable personalities, more athleticism, and even wonders whether they have more rhythm. Essentially his theory portrays blacks as dumb violent cool jocks and portrays East Asians as smart boring nerds with whites somewhere in between both extremes. But in high school, it's the dumb jocks who are the most popular.

Fred Zindi, a black Zimbsbwean has published research documenting that the mean black African IQ is around 70. His work is frequently cited by rushton in peer reviewed academic journals.

@Uh: Black breasts and buttocks look disgusting. Technically they are bigger but they usually sag and their buttocks aren't firm or smooth but covered in cellulite. Plus black women are prone to obesity and their metabolism go to shit when they reach middle age. I think the statistic was somewhere around 60-80% of black women fall into obese category.

And no you are wrong about trading 20 IQ points for a marginally bigger penis. Someone would have to be extremely insecure or have a micro penis for them to want that.

"Obsidian files is a blog written by a black guy who is familiar with HBD, but seems to think it's a bunch of bunk."

Obsidian doesn't really argue against the simple claim (fact) that blacks (on average) have lower IQ's than whites (on average).

He just obfuscates the subject with a lot of other noise and confusion that essentially amount to ad hominem attacks against HBDers in general.

"That's not true. Rushton claims blacks have larger sexual anatomy and secondary sexual characteristics (it fits into his r/K theory)."

Blacks do have larger penises, but Rushton's r/K theory isn't correct.

There are a number of traits where Europeans don't "end up in the middle" compared to Africans and East Asians.

Some examples,

Race whose women have largest breast sizes after controlling for obesity (largest to smallest):

European
African
East Asian

Race whose men are tallest (from tallest to shortest):

European and African men more or less equally
East Asian

Race whose women's collagen and elastin breakdown the fastest with age (from fastest breakdown to slowest):

European
African
East Asian

Y says :
I'm a black female HBD-believer ....(Why Race Matters by Michael Levin and Intelligence, Race, and Genetics by Frank Miele, etc.) ... The most painful thing about being a race realist is not being able to share such an awesome magazine/newsletter ...
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AR awesome ?.
It's interesting but you'd have to be even less sensitive to racial slight than I am to find it awesome :)

If you'd like to discuss a few things, I'm at gmail. I was in touch with another guy, Nigerian like you, who's into this stuff. If you're reading this, dude, sorry for not yet getting back to you on the articles but I will try. Just need to find the time and mental energy to write back a book length answer!

Camlost says :
Obsidian doesn't really argue against the simple claim (fact) that blacks (on average) have lower IQ's than whites (on average).

He just obfuscates the subject with a lot of other noise and confusion that essentially amount to ad hominem attacks against HBDers in general.
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From what I read from him, he did accept HBD but seemed to think that it was actually good news for blacks and not so great news for the nonNAMS.
I guess it makes sense for someone so into Game to value high testosterone, swagger, overconfidence, big genitals etc.
Doesn't work for me. I don't value much those qualities that black males seem to have in abundance. I'll take the IQ over the "leadership" as defined by the Vulcan society any day.

dextrology says :

...And plus, even if HBD is true, that doesn't necessarily mean that we should end the welfare state, as many HBD-ers seem to argue. One could easily argue the other way...
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I think that such leftists as Peter Singer and John Rawls do believe that genetic inequality is real. To them it means more reasons and justifications for redistribution.
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The idea of HBD itself is totally foreign to most blacks, since the vast majority of blacks are religious and believe god made everyone equal.
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I have this black african immigrant friend whom I chat with often. His beliefs are a curious mixture. He strongly believes that Whites run things better. He has no doubt about it. He frequently says the equivalent of "n*gg**s gonna n*g" whenever we discuss the latest black mischief. He has a very positive opinion of the Belgian colonisation of his country of origin. I actually found that shocking at first but some reading has shed light on the subject and I understand better now. He thus believes in HBD in a way. But he's also a fundamentalist christian so evolution is out of bounds. He's more likely to think that black problems stem from a curse or something like that. Or that the poor academic results of black kids stem from cultural problems. He is semi HBD aware but will probably never make the jump to a full understanding of the phenomenon.
It is nice thought that I don't have to watch my words I say when i discuss with him.
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...I don't even think David Alexander is black because half the stuff he types is just too comical to even be real.
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David Alexander just seemed veery gloomy and veery self deprecating to me. He's one of the few black people who actually suffers from low self esteem :) With that said, the way he described his family and a few details here and there seemed authentic enough to me, a fellow ethnic haitian. Though that doesn't exclude him making up parts of his stories.

I guess that to get the loan from creditors you ought to have a great motivation. But, one time I've got a secured loan, because I wanted to buy a car.

You need a black individual with high enough IQ and motivation to write a blog devoted to talking about the 'failings' of their race.

While a high IQ black individual writing an HBD blog isn't exactly masochistic, it's cutting it pretty close. The black people who can appreciate Uh's listed 'positive traits' are low IQ blacks who place high value on those traits. The traits blacks, on average lack, are those necessary to build civilization. The traits high IQ individuals value are those necessary to build civilization. Hence, it's hard to imagine a High IQ black blogging in support of HBD.

What would the black individual have to gain? A large amount of racism in their 'comments' section? Accusations of birds flocking when they post anything positive about any black individual's intelligence? HS received HUGE flack for even suggesting Barack Obama, POTUS, has a high IQ.

Undiscovered Jew, rushton does not claim whites are in between blacks and orientals on every trait, just the traits related to r/K. And how do you know which race has the biggest breasts after controlling for obesity. Did someone actually study that?

Dextrology,
Why don't you believe that I'm black?

"Undiscovered Jew, rushton does not claim whites are in between blacks and orientals on every trait, just the traits related to r/K."

??

How are the female sexual characteristics I noted, breast size and skin youthfulness, less related to r/K than the traits Rushton cites as proof whites are "in the middle" such as cranial volume and extraversion?

"And how do you know which race has the biggest breasts after controlling for obesity."

It's a personal observation that's so obvious (and well observed by men) I don't need a study to back it up because the characteristics in question are externally visible to the naked eye, almost as obvious as skin color.

Just watch women walking around in summer and compare white, black, and East Asian breast sizes. Or open a Playboy.

You'll see (if you haven't already) that European women have larger breasts than blacks and East Asian women and that East Asian women have the smallest breasts of any continental scale population/race.

We don't need a black HBD blogger. We need a Confederate victory. The Confederate cause is not lost - its ultimate success was merely delayed by a few scores of years. Let us hear no vile slanders against Jewish ladies and gentlemen, nor against Muslims, nor against anyone except those who stand in the way of Confederate victory. By the aid of Italian-Americans, Polish-Americans, Ukrainian-Americans and others who weary of an incompetent and tyrannical federal government, the Confederacy may yet win ultimate victory. Don't ban the Confederate flag. Ban the Union flag! Let us strike as Uncle Sam becomes the sick man of the world!

Let black people become citizens and this is what you get:
http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/video?id=8397093 84-year-old attacked by 4 in Fairmont Park| Video | 6abc.com
Is that what you want?

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