Commenters at National Review are sick and tired of Sarah Palin. It’s about time. I saw through her from day one, but apparently it took others four years.
So here are some comments in response to Sarah Palin’s suggestion that you should vote for Newt in order to “annoy a liberal”:
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I tried hard to give this woman the benefit of the doubt. Despite the fact she is at best an average mind, I thought she was shrewd. Going from nothing to national political figure requires a certain degree of cleverness. Now, I wonder if it was just serendipity. Her recent babbling about Newt Gingrich representing the rank and file conservative suggests she has no clue about any of this.
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With all due respect to former Governor Palin, but isn't the purpose of a primary to choose the best candidate for the general election? What does "annoying" people have to do with a primary vote? By the way, Senator Christine O'Donnell and Senator Sharron Angle say hi !
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If she were an organ she would be the appendix.
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Yeah, it's really going to annoy a liberal when Republicans vote for a progressive who spews the rhetoric of a right wing ideologue. The longer this process goes on the more convinced I am that a Gingrich nomination exponentially increases the likelihood of an Obama victory in 2012.
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Defeating President Obama will annoy a liberal a lot more than a vote for Newt.
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From the person who tooks nearly a year to tease out that she wasn't running for President, now she's going to take months to tease out that she endorses Gingrich. The govenor who resigned endorses the congressman who was forced to resign. Just like the womanizer (Cain) who dropped out of the race endorses the womanizer who is in the race.
The problem I have with what Palin is saying is you don't vote for someone as a tactic or to annoy someone else. You vote for them because you want them to win. So the queen of "will she or won't she" won't actually say if she wants Newt to win overall or not.
The people who like Palin, and I was one until recently, are being played in her own game of aggrandizment. She and Newt must be two peas in a pod.
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Do we really need any more evidence about how what sort of person we are dealing with Sarah Palin? Newt and Palin are made for each other, they're both con artists that can easily sucker brain dead conservatives.
A leaders' effectiveness does not derive from how much they annoy the opposition. Believe me, if Palin got the nomination, she would annoy liberals, but they would be licking their chops at a 15 point landslide.
I love how Palin gets this "street cred" that she's tough and doesn't mince words, but she's not even brave enough to make a formal endorsement.
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It won't really annoy liberals. All the Democrats I know in open primary states are voting for Newt themselves. Newt's victories amuse them greatly -- after South Carolina, my inbox was choked with a fake Washington Post page that showed a 'Newt wins South Carolina' headline next to a big photo of Obama laughing.
Even if it DID annoy liberals, though, I don't think that behaving with the same general motivation as a 5-year-old advances the GOP cause or the country.
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Sarah Palin is apparently annoying a lot of people these days. Mrs. Palin please tell me where Gingrich is bucking the establishment. Is that with regard to Medicare reform? Individual mandate, global warming, etc, etc, etc? He now has changed (for the campaign) on a whole host of these issues and says he was wrong but his manner and his demeanor portray expediency, not bucking the establishment. The only establishment Newt is bucking is establishment of consistency.
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Based on the fact that Newt trails by like 14 points to Obama in the swing states, I would think you'd please the liberals by voting for him.
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Sarah Palin is shrewd. She got rich off this stuff. She's shown a kind of street smart mob boss mentality most of her life. Only morons like HS that think politics matter can't understand.
Posted by: asdf | January 30, 2012 at 04:00 PM
Vote for Newt to annoy the liberals is just as bankrupt as vote for Romney because he is "electable".
I remember the bumper stickers in 1992: "Annoy the Media, Vote for Bush" -- but that didn't turn out to be a winning strategy for the Bush campaign.
Posted by: JP | January 30, 2012 at 04:08 PM
Haha. So the leftist media is no longer picking on Sara! Looks like the liberals were ahead of everyone after all. Will these idiots ever recant their absurd media bias conspiracy now?
Posted by: Conquistador | January 30, 2012 at 04:34 PM
A President Gingrich (if elected) would indeed annoy liberals. They'd hate his guts and spew venom at him.
Just like they did with George W Bush and Richard Nixon, two other hate figures for the left who were exceedingly liberal in terms of policy.
Conservatives would be in the same place they were under Bush - forced to defend a supposedly conservative President who was in fact indifferent or even hostile towards conservatism.
You can see the problem right there: "If even a crazy hard-core right-winger like Newt Gingrich supports cap-and-trade, amnesty, etc, then what does that say about how extreme those Rethuglicans who oppose these things are?"
Gingrich is perceived (wrongly) to be very conservative. That would give him a lot of freedom to indulge his liberal instincts. Romney is perceived (with some justice) to not be very conservative. That would force him to try to prove how right wing he is if elected.
Posted by: Severn | January 30, 2012 at 04:45 PM
The truly sad thing is that relatively speaking she was the best educated, most intelligent and best qualified of the four people running.
Relatively speaking.
Dear Half Sigma, you are wrong regarding Obama's intelligence and education. He is a prime example of affirmative action run amok. And he has spent his entire life bouncing from one Marxist re-education camp after another, with the result that he is so mal-educated as to be actually delusional. So, while I think you are generally right about Palin, Obama is much worse. And the last three years proves it.
Posted by: bob sykes | January 30, 2012 at 04:46 PM
"Sarah Palin is shrewd. She got rich off this stuff. She's shown a kind of street smart mob boss mentality most of her life." - asdf
It's not hard to make money off idiotic prole Republicans. Fox News, talk radio, The GOP establishment, already figured that out years ago. The Republican book and speaking circuit is extremely lucrative. Everyone likens themselves to messiah Reagan so they can cash in. Scamming proles is an art form.
Posted by: Conquistador | January 30, 2012 at 05:17 PM
Here is my prediction, Mitt Romney will go down as bad as McCain/Palin did - at least roughly the same. The problem is these moderate dorks that obviously cannot win at the top of the ticket. Of course, Newt is no good. Not sure if GOP will ever win presidency again - all politics has a strong racial component and Whites have been outsmarted.
[HS: When Romney wins in the fall, will you admit that you were wrong about everything?]
Posted by: eggwhite | January 30, 2012 at 05:44 PM
>"The problem is these moderate dorks that obviously cannot win at the top of the ticket."
Bush won twice in spite of being more moderate than Romney.
(More moderate in reality, that is. It's possible that a lot of people believed him to be much more conservative than he actually was, based on his Texas drawl.)
Posted by: Severn | January 30, 2012 at 06:11 PM
[HS: When Romney wins in the fall, will you admit that you were wrong about everything?]
LOL - well yes I will. Although, I would be tempted to come back under a different name, since I've always found cowardice and subterfuge to be good allies. Honestly, I think no matter who the GOP puts up they will lose; I think we may have crossed the Rubicon racially in this country sooner than I thought – but we’ll see. If I’m wrong, that’s a good thing,
Posted by: eggwhite | January 30, 2012 at 08:49 PM
"By the way, Senator Christine O'Donnell and Senator Sharron Angle say hi !"
To whatever dolt said this, I have three replies: Pat Toomey, Marco Rubio, Rand Paul. I am very glad that Specter and Crist are not sitting Senators.
The Florida race has become a replay of Crist vs. Rubio. The only difference is that this time, the real conservative will lose.
Posted by: John | January 30, 2012 at 10:55 PM
Sarah Palin is so ghetto.
Posted by: Mr. Z | January 31, 2012 at 09:00 AM
>"The Florida race has become a replay of Crist vs. Rubio. The only difference is that this time, the real conservative will lose"
And who, pray tell, is the "real conservative" in the Florida race? If you say "Gingrich" then you need to do a little more research.
Posted by: Severn | January 31, 2012 at 03:23 PM
Sarah Palin's problem isn't just that she's annoying and neither especially intelligent nor well-informed. It's that in the end she's never really presented us with an anti-establishment version of Republicanism that her would-be followers can get behind. She's a poor woman's version of Rush Limbaugh. She doesn't diverge from the party line in any meaningful way.
Posted by: Bertie Wooster | February 02, 2012 at 12:13 AM
eggwhite said:
"Not sure if GOP will ever win presidency again - all politics has a strong racial component and Whites have been outsmarted."
Plenty of whitefolks are firmly attached to the gubment tit. It is true that brownfolks gorge on and grab ahold of the fattest udders, but our current system wouldn't exist if whites didn't love them some gubment chee, too.
Repubes can win elections nationally, but they will only do so by competing with the Dems, as they did in the last election cycle, on who can roll home the largest and most fragrant wheel of gubment chee.
Did anyone notice that our glorious leaders ran up another trillion-dollar deficit last year, mostly to pay people not to work? We're very close to an utterly unrepayable level of debt, a la Greece. But we're not Greece; we're the largest economy on Earth, and no one can bail us out. Buy food, buy water, and move the hell out of big-city areas. Now.
PS: All the libs I know are champing at the bit for a Newt nomination: they think Obama will piledrive him with ease.
prawnster
Posted by: prawnster | February 02, 2012 at 07:41 AM
Yeah, Obama would beat Gingrich.
Romney will probably beat Obama.
Posted by: Doug1 | February 02, 2012 at 01:14 PM
I'm a far-right Christian and to be honest Palin, Beck and others are too liberal. I never understood why the MSM called them "ultra-conservative, religious right" when one could see their act a mile away. They're hardly genuinly religious and they're hardly conservative. Palin just wanted attention and to get rich (and yeah she's filthy rich now thanks to her books, press and Reality TV show!). In fact I dislike Republicans in general for their capitalist, profit follow the money mentality as much as I dislike the degenerate cultural mentality of the Democrats. Good ridance all of them.
Posted by: stacy | February 04, 2012 at 05:21 PM