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March 19, 2012

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A 16% decline in the number of people applying to law school is like a 500-pound man losing ten pounds and then bragging about his wonderful diet.

"A 16% decline in the number of people applying to law school is like a 500-pound man losing ten pounds and then bragging about his wonderful diet."

Taking the LSATs has almost no cost, so there are many people taking the LSATs who aren't set on going to law school.

It strikes me as a significant decline, especially given that there was also a noticable drop the year before, but (as I think Peter means) we'd have to know more to evaluate it. How are other grad school programs doing -- doctors, librarians, anyone who needs a postgraduate degree?

Also, has there been any drop in applications to undergrad university programs? It's possible that we're simply running out of money with which to chase the false hope of a degree leading to a job, since the fake "recovery" isn't helping so many people.

"Many lawyers and law professors have argued in recent years that the legal market will either stagnate or shrink as technology allows more low-end legal work to be handled overseas, "

Hmm. Outsourcing catching up with lawyers? The only jobs safe from outsourcing are those which literally *must* be performed in person, and many of those (e.g., manicurist, chiropractor) are likely to slip into the "unnecessary luxury" category as the middle class continues to get poorer.

Well, 16% of 500 pounds in 80, not 10, so I'd say it's a pretty good start.

Law is ripe for computer automation to gut a lot of the lower level jobs. I wouldn't expect the first signs of this to be in law school applications though... Might be something else causing this or the gutting has already started and I'm not aware of it (very possible).

The law school scam is only the tip of the iceberg. Civilization is a ponzy scheme fueled by the young and naive for the benefit of the old and cynical. The problem now is that the worldwide drop in fertility has removed new suckers from the system. People are also wising up and learning how things really work thanks to the internet. What happens next will be interesting.

you are doing a good thing, HS.

congratulations.

John Derbyshire (we all wish him to be well) visited in April 2010 University of Pennsylvania Law school and gave the talk:
"Revisiting Race and Remedies: Should the Government Play A Role in Eliminating Racial Disparities in Education and Employment?"

http://johnderbyshire.com/Opinions/HumanSciences/upennlaw.html

Quite interesting.
Your truly, Florida resident.

"The law school scam is only the tip of the iceberg. Civilization is a ponzy scheme fueled by the young and naive for the benefit of the old and cynical. The problem now is that the worldwide drop in fertility has removed new suckers from the system. People are also wising up and learning how things really work thanks to the internet. What happens next will be interesting."

Precisely. The survival of the current economic and monetary system (which is based on banks and debt with interest -- it has not always been the case) depends on a constant arrival of "fresh meat".

That's why so much advertising and politician discourse goes into encouraging young people to graduate, marry (= house in the banker mind) and have children.

The problem is that western civilization has reached a point where intelligent people do not wish anymore to have children or cannot have children. It is a technological and spiritual issue, i.e. one that CANNOT be suppressed or reverted. The very definition of a Pandora box.

The White generation Y (>1990), for example, will be mostly childless. Only the Black and Mestizo hordes still consent to do the ultimate sacrifice (giving life), out of their still-living belief in Christianity and their biological imperatives.

props where props is due, HS was the first to note the scam!

Lawyers are just professional bullies. Now that schools have implemented "anti-bullying" campaigns, being a lawyer is not as cool as it once was.

Judging by some of these comments here, it appears that many ex- American middle class people are slowly learning how to be poor.

Now the big rule of how to be poor is that you do NOT try to escape from poverty. When you can get your hands on some cash, its spent as soon as possible on immediate wants and needs (anything from back rent to cheap entertainment -drugs are good for the latter), since you don't need much cash for this there is hope you can get your hands on a little cash later and continue the cycle. You definitely do not use the money for "investments" such as a house or education.

The reason poor people think this way is that in their experience, 99% of what is sold to them as "investments" turns out to be a scam! In contrast, if spent on rent or drugs the money is definitely being put for use for some immediate benefit, as opposed to a house that turns into a money pit or education that never seems to get turned into a job. American middle class people are getting to be scammed enough that they are starting to behave the same way.

Yeah, and 2 years ago we had the highest number of all-time of LSAT takers.

http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/lsat_test_takers_jump_by_nearly_20_should_they_consider_the_alternatives/

So, I doubt if the students really know the reality. What is the point of a little fall and then rising for another record?

Jd underground, half sigma, calico cat and other blogs who tell the reality have too little impact to
make reality known to everyone.

"How are other grad school programs doing -- doctors, librarians, anyone who needs a postgraduate degree?


Librarians need postgraduate degrees?

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