Looking at a map, it seems like the nearest 7-11 is only one mile away. Still, it seems like a really long walk in the rain just to get Skittles and an ice tea. The story makes no sense. Trayvon making up some excuse to leave so he can do some drugs makes a lot more sense. And would be consistent with Zimmerman's comments on the phone call that Trayvon looked like he was on drugs. And the fact that Trayvon was on a ten-day suspension from school for drug activity.
* * *
People assumed that Zimmerman is just too stupid and racist to know the difference between a guy on drugs, and a sweet innocent kid walking home with candy for his little brother, but maybe Zimmerman was right about that part. I'd love to find out what's in the toxicology report.
The released evidence shows the following:
1. Martin had a cigarette lighter on him.
2. He had THC in his blood.
I think the amount of THC found in his blood is consistent with him smoking a joint the same day as the incident, but not immediately before the altercation. ("I think" means I'm not sure about what the results mean and I don't trust the MSM.)
I think that Martin looked kind of high in the 7-11 video. He may have smoked a joint before walking to the 7-11.
The lighter was the 7-11 store brand; it stands to reason that procuring the lighter was one of the reasons for him going in the first place. Also, doesn't prolonged pot usage make you paranoid? I've never had any desire to indulge, so I don't know. If he was a chronic smoker, which the evidence to date indicated he was, it might explain why he doubled back to confront Zimmerman.
Additionally, was it his little brother? It's my understanding that it's his father's fiancée's kid.
Posted by: Inkraven | May 18, 2012 at 12:10 PM
Also, it looked like he paid for his items, then came back in the store to wander around aimlessly again.
This would support Zimmerman's account that Trayvon was just meandering around starting at buildings, as if casing the area.
Posted by: camlost@love.com | May 18, 2012 at 12:13 PM
It doesn't matter. THC is not intoxicating. Marijuana has no effect. It's like the college kids who "get drunk" on non-alcoholic beer.
I'm not the only one. See Spalding Gray in Swimming to Cambodia.
Posted by: Nicolai Yezhov | May 18, 2012 at 12:45 PM
I'm not prepared to accept that he smoked that day.
What I do think this establishes is Martin's thug-attitude. He was not kid who wanted to be good. I can accept that he'd initiate the fight with Zimmerman.
Others are making hay about Zimmerman's medical prescriptions.
Posted by: Half Canadian | May 18, 2012 at 12:46 PM
That some weird attitude he has, wandering almost lurching around the store. Going the wrong way after the transaction. Not getting his money out until the last minute. Picking something off the floor.
And $40 is a lot of money for an unemployed teen to have. Consistent with his low level pot dealing though.
Posted by: Turambar | May 18, 2012 at 01:34 PM
There seems to be an implicit assumption here that marijuana use is relevant because it would cause Martin to react violently to being looked at ("paranoid"). But anyone who's spent much time around young blacks knows that they don't have to be high to turn violent about any supposed "dis," let alone the feeling they're being surveiled. The dope is a total red herring in terms of explaining the events.
[HS: It's relevant to establish the fact that he looked suspicious, and that Zimmerman didn't just find him suspicious because he hates black people.
And if he smoked pot that day, it means he did engage in criminal activity that day.]
Posted by: not a hacker | May 18, 2012 at 01:37 PM
While I'll agree the media is slanted as hell in TM's favor. I'll just throw this up in the interest of accuracy.
from
http://www.idmu.co.uk/drugtestcan.htm
Perez-Reyes et al[xiv] tested concentrations in experienced marijuana smokers who had refrained for 6 days prior to the experiment. Two cigarettes, with an average of 882mg cannabis at 1% THC (8.82mg THC), were smoked two hours apart, blood samples being taken every 5 minutes for the first 20 minutes after smoking, and at 10 minute intervals thereafter. The first cigarette produced a level of 70ng/ml at 10 minutes roughly 17ng/ml at 20 min, and roughly 3ng/ml at 2 hours. The second produced respective levels of 90, 17 and 5ng/ml at similar intervals after smoking. There is a rapid rise in THC concentration during smoking, and then an equally rapid fall which levels off at roughly 30 min post-smoking and falls gradually thereafter.
You can interpret this as you like... TM had 1/2 the level that smokers have two hours out after one joint. And you are not high 2 hours after your last smoke.
He was a regular user. We all knew that. He was not high though.
Posted by: dk | May 18, 2012 at 01:53 PM
PCP increases a person's street fighting ability by decreasing his pain sensitivity. Gun blogs are full of anecdotes about PCP users absorbing bullet after bullet before finally dropping. Pot has no such effect.
Posted by: Peter | May 18, 2012 at 02:53 PM
Regardless of the facts, black people and white liberals will believe that Trayvon Martin was murdered by a white racist. I can hear Tim Wise (www.timwise.org) and others now: "Just because Trayvon smoked weed does not mean he deserved to die."
(I recently discovered Mr Wise's blog, and spent some time reading the most ridiculous allegations of racism in this country.)
I know that regular marijuana smokers get paranoid. Potheads are also very unreliable.
Posted by: BlogRaju | May 18, 2012 at 02:55 PM
HS: "It's relevant to establish the fact that he looked suspicious, and that Zimmerman didn't just find him suspicious because he hates black people. And if he smoked pot that day, it means he did engage in criminal activity that day."
Well, I guess you're talking about the court of public opinion, because whether Zimmerman genuinely or reasonably thought Martin was suspicious would itself seem to be irrelevant to the issue of Zimmerman's guilt. Hypo: what if Zimmerman flat out declared that he dislikes blacks and considers them always up to no good? Once it's established that Martin got enraged and started pummelling him, doesn't the law confer the right to self-defense regardless, and wouldn't the court have to instruct the jury to that effect?
[HS: You are correct.]
Posted by: not a hacker | May 18, 2012 at 03:08 PM
"PCP increases a person's street fighting ability by decreasing his pain sensitivity. Gun blogs are full of anecdotes about PCP users absorbing bullet after bullet before finally dropping. "
Rodney King
Posted by: Camlost | May 18, 2012 at 03:08 PM
Pot makes people mellow. I did tons of pot when i was a teenager and have hung around or come into contact with various drug types for years.
If he was able to get violent on pot then he was an anomaly (i know people who can't function/work until they smoke weed whereas I, like 95% of the population, find it taxing to even think about doing any type of work while on weed).
BTW, what does HalfSigma have to say about this:
http://scienceblog.com/54468/parents-are-happier-than-non-parents-new-research-suggests/
[HS: I am going to assume the researchers were too stupid to take into account the confounding factor that people with children were more likely married, and married people are happier.]
Posted by: the_alpha_male | May 18, 2012 at 03:10 PM
I have to say that my mind has completely flipped on this one. Ah well, can't win 'em all!
Posted by: Insider | May 18, 2012 at 04:01 PM
Appreciate dk's excellent citation. The results indicate that Martin probably ingested marijuana a couple of hours earlier. But what effect did the drug have? From the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration:
nterpretation of Blood Concentrations: It is difficult to establish a relationship between a person's THC blood or plasma concentration and performance impairing effects. Concentrations of parent drug and metabolite are very dependent on pattern of use as well as dose. THC concentrations typically peak during the act of smoking, while peak 11-OH THC concentrations occur approximately 9-23 minutes after the start of smoking. Concentrations of both analytes decline rapidly and are often http://www.nhtsa.gov/People/injury/research/job185drugs/cannabis.htm
Posted by: Black Death | May 18, 2012 at 04:19 PM
"THC is not intoxicating. Marijuana has no effect."
That must be why enough people use it to support a $40 billion industry.
Posted by: Tanizaki | May 18, 2012 at 04:20 PM
Concentrations of both analytes decline rapidly and are often http://www.nhtsa.gov/People/injury/research/job185drugs/cannabis.htm
(sorry for the repost - got chopped off)
Posted by: Black Death | May 18, 2012 at 04:21 PM
[HS: I am going to assume the researchers were too stupid to take into account the confounding factor that people with children were more likely married, and married people are happier.]
The article says the same effect was true for unmarried and single parents, though less pronounced.
Posted by: albert magnus | May 18, 2012 at 05:17 PM
I was in Sanford for a hearing this afternoon, so after it was over I took the opportunity to tour the locations at issue in this case.
The townhouse complex is solidly middle class/high prole. Entry is ostensibly protected by a gate. I was on foot, having parked in the lot of a shopping center down the road, but elected not to dart into the complex when a truck exited. However, it is pretty easy to look over the wall into the complex.
A roadside shrine is set up outside one of the gates of the complex. The shrine consisted of a few crosses, a number of American flags (which I did not understand), and about 20 small stuffed animals. (I'll link the photos if there is any interest) An elementary school is across the street, and I imagine that students might be contributing to the shrine.
It began to rain, and since I was without a hoodie, I returned to my car and decided to visit the 7-11. Other than me, the only other customer was a white teen in a hoodie; he was wandering aimlessly. I picked up an Arizona zero calorie Arnold Palmer (half tea/ha;f lemonade), a bag of skittle, and a small bag of Andy Capp fries. I wondered if the clerk would make any remark about the purchase, but the only thing he did was remind me of the sale on Arizona products, so I picked up another can. (2 for $2.22!) Several blacks entered the store as I was leaving. Census figures show the areas is about 50/50 white/NAM.
As I was driving, I was struck by how far the trip from the complex to the 7-11 would be, especially in the rain. By car, it was about 0.5 miles one way, and maps don't indicate that it would be much shorter on foot.
Posted by: Tanizaki | May 18, 2012 at 05:32 PM
It would be interesting to find out what the 7-11 clerk thought about Travon. If he stood out to him as being scary weird or not? He sure seemed to be acting weird in the vid.
Posted by: trey | May 18, 2012 at 05:44 PM
Wait, there's a 7/11 video of Trayvon? Since when?
Does it show him paying for the items?
Posted by: sailerfan | May 18, 2012 at 08:53 PM
In case you haven't seen it. Dershowitz is calling on Corey to drop the murder charge. He also explains some elements of self defense in regard to Zman. It supports what you said earlier that even if SYG isn't applicable he still has a traditional right to self defense.
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/drop-george-zimmerman-murder-charge-article-1.1080161?pgno=1
Posted by: destructure | May 18, 2012 at 10:37 PM
Unfortunately, many legal analysts are saying that the marijuana in Trayvon's system will never make it into evidence. The problem with marijuana is that there isn't even consensus on what levels makes an individual impaired.
I think that even if Trayvon didn't smoke marijuana that day, he still could have looked like he was on drugs. I know many stoners who have an aloof attitude that sticks with them even when they're not getting high.
I actually think that Trayvon looks "suspicious" in the 7/11 video tape. Just the fact that he's kind of floating around and wearing his hoodie on while he's indoors makes me automatically wonder if he's going to rob the store.
One last thing that I noticed. Didn't Dee Dee, Martin's "girlfriend," claim that Martin had his hoodie down when Zimmerman was following him, but then he decided to put his hoodie up? We can see from the 7/11 video tape that this is inconsistent. If Martin doesn't even take that thing off when he's walking inside a store, why would he take it off while he's walking in the rain? This is just one of the inconsistencies I've noticed in Dee Dee's testimony...
Posted by: AE | May 19, 2012 at 12:20 AM
Shouldn't marijuana have made him less violent?
Weed causes people to mellow out and lowers sex drive, and I've always thought it would be good to eliminate prison gyms where working out pumps up prisoners with testosterone and dopamine and instead give prisoners weed and carb heavy snacks to make them less violent and lower their sex drive. Marijuana + candy machines in prison would both make the prisoners less violent if they are ever released and make them a bit less likely to have sex. Less ex-cons having sex would yield a nice eugenic dividend.
Posted by: The Undiscovered Jew | May 19, 2012 at 12:27 AM
"Unfortunately, many legal analysts are saying that the marijuana in Trayvon's system will never make it into evidence"
I think the reason for the suspension at school gets in.
Then its just a short exchange...
OMARA: What did you find on Mr. Martin's body
OFFICER: $40.15, a 711 lighter, head phone, Skittles, a photo button, and a can of iced tea.
OMARA: was Mr. Martin a smoker
[objection]
OMARA: did Mr. Martin have cigarettes on him?
OFFICER: no
OMARA: Mr. Martin was just at 711, did he purchase cigarette there?
OFFICER: no
-----
I am pretty sure that will leave the impression in the minds of the jury that the lighter was wither for pot or crack.
Then you review the tape of Trayvon lurching around the store.
Posted by: Turambar | May 19, 2012 at 10:26 AM
Sure-fire slogan for the Obama re-election campaign:
Win One For Trayvon.
Posted by: Jonathan Silber | May 19, 2012 at 11:52 AM
@Tanizaki
Yes Tanizaki. $40 billion for nothing.
Have you ever smoked marijuana?
Martin was unaffected by marijuana because marijuana has no effect.
Zimmerman was affected by amphetamine and a benzo because these have an effect.
Why don't you try these yourself Tanizakitard. Then you'd see.
Posted by: Nicolai Yezhov | May 19, 2012 at 12:25 PM
This post seems to show only what a total shut in Half Sigma is.
Those who think Reefer Madness is realistic or that marijuana kills brain cells or causes paranoia and hallucinations have never tried it.
The effect is indistinguishable from smoke inhalation. That is, there isn't one.
But if you have a low IQ you will be susceptible to suggestion and social proof and there will be a substantial placebo effect.
Of course this includes most fat white trash.
Posted by: Nicolai Yezhov | May 19, 2012 at 12:50 PM
Half,
As I absorb more of the lessons of this case, my thoughts return to how best to structure an investment portfolio to profit from the level of racial stress.
If you google the following
A Dallas man remains in jail after police say he randomly stabbed a shopper inside a Target store.
You will see that the part of Dallas where this stabbing took place was a quite nice upscale place, not that far North of Preston Hollow where the second President Bush lives.
As stores like Target become more uncomfortable to shop in perhaps more people will shift to buying from Amazon?
Posted by: Betach | May 19, 2012 at 12:51 PM
I'll ask...
Why would you smoke something that has no effect?
Posted by: Clueless Non-Smoker | May 19, 2012 at 12:52 PM
"Have you ever smoked marijuana?"
Yes. However, I do not need to have smoked marijuana to know that THC has pharmacological effects.
Why do you think there is such a thing as medical marijuana advocacy?
Posted by: Tanizaki | May 19, 2012 at 01:08 PM
Pharmacological effects maybe. I have no reason to doubt that there are. Effects on behavior and affect and mood and memory and so forth I have good reason to doubt.
1. I've tried it multiple times. That others including scientists claim there is an effect, well the crowd and experts have no authority for me. For you though...
2. I have it on authority :) that it is not addictive.
Posted by: Nicolai Yezhov | May 19, 2012 at 01:18 PM
Numerous studies on laboratory animals have shown that THC does in fact have an intoxicating effect. Unless, of course, peer pressure is so strong that even non-humans are susceptible.
Posted by: Van | May 19, 2012 at 01:51 PM
If you look at the medical evidence, it seems quite plausible that Zimmerman was in the process of being murdered.
He was on the ground getting annihilated and calling for help. Trayvon Martin had won, but he wasn't stopping.
If Martin's goal was simply to scare or rough up Zimmerman, why didn't he stop when Zimmerman was pleading for his life unless he was trying to finish the job.
(Of course it is Zimm: Who cries for help when they are on top administering a beating? That is 100% impossible unless you are mocking someone, but those cries weren't mocking cries.)
Our president and attorney general are not civilized humans. They either don't understand simple facts or they are too corrupt to follow them.
If we are going to get more leaders like this in the coming years, that will suck.
Posted by: Dan | May 19, 2012 at 03:30 PM
Then why the f*** didn't Zimmerman fight back? No matter what anyone says I do NOT believe that Martin was so physically superior to render Zimmerman helpless. Newsflash, dweebs: black men are NOT stronger, more athletic, or better street fighters than men of other races.
Posted by: Peter | May 19, 2012 at 03:34 PM
@Nicolai Yezhov
http://www.examiner.com/article/marijuana-criminality-and-violence
http://adai.washington.edu/marijuana/factsheets/aggression.htm
Marijuana does have physiological effects, especially exasperating the user predisposed psychological conditions and disorders. It's also common for those with mental illnesses to abuse drugs in an attempt to self-medicate.
Also in high quantities, THC can cause fear, anxiety, panic or paranoia, which can result in an aggressive outburst.
You're an imbecile, get off this board with your ignorant nonsense and go read a book.
Posted by: Lexus Liberal | May 19, 2012 at 04:05 PM
Peter, why are you obsessed with this? There are good fighters in all races: white, black, asian, latino etc. You're arguing with a point no one has made.
Posted by: Anonymouse | May 19, 2012 at 04:15 PM
I'm assuming all the readers on this blog understand the concept of "human biodiversity." We are not identical. Some people can smoke marijuana and behave normally. Most people will get stoned, and repeated use probably causes chemical changes in the brain. A few regular smokers will not suffer these effects.
The same is true with alcohol. Some people get buzzed after one drink, some people can drink much more, and alcoholics drink until they quit or die.
Posted by: BlogRaju | May 19, 2012 at 05:40 PM
The clerk in the vid seems especially nervous around Trayvon. After the sale, he even starts doing a little calisthenics as a cover so he doesn't reveal his nervousness. I'm not sure if this is mostly due just to the typical nervousness people have around strangers when they don't have any small talk to make or if it was fear for safety. Looks like maybe a lot of safety fear to me.
It would be interesting to look at about 50-100 7-11 surveillance vids and see if Trayvon's behavior stands out. You probably could even pixel out any defining personal attributes of the customers and just judge on broad actions who sends out danger vibes.
Posted by: trey | May 19, 2012 at 06:19 PM
HS, you mentioned "the amount of THC in his blood" -- what was it? I can't find that information. Usually it's measured in ng.
Regardless, there's no way to tell based on the level in a person's system whether his use was recent -- certainly not to pinpoint within one hour versus eight. The only way to judge whether they are under the influence is by their behavior.
Posted by: Sheila Tone | May 19, 2012 at 07:30 PM
It's a pop culture myth that "stoned people are mellow and don't fight." People are arrested all the time for assault, battery, and disorderly conduct when they're high on marijuana. It affects judgment just like a number of other pleasure drugs. "Intoxicating" is not the best word to describe it; it's actually a mild hallucinogen.
Posted by: Sheila Tone | May 19, 2012 at 07:34 PM
I dn't think HS is suggesting that having THC in his system caused *Trayvon* to behave violently. Rather, his smoking of (or seeking out purchase of) marijuana would have been a reason for him to look suspicious, as he would have been standing around, and possibly being suspicious of anyone else in the area.
Posted by: Sheila Tone | May 19, 2012 at 07:42 PM
Sheila Tone, thank you for making that point. Some of us, myself for example, can think of doing nothing more than vegging on the couch watching tv or listening to music when high, but other people, judging from the large number of news stories I've read over the years are inspired to commit violent crimes. I remember reading one story and asking myself, "Who the hell could rob a fucking bank stoned?"
Posted by: Nietzschean | May 19, 2012 at 08:43 PM
Some people are violent while drunk and some are pretty mellow. Most people get pretty mellow on weed while a few get paranoid and make bad judgements.
It's weird, I worked my way through college as a gas station clerk in the inner city overnites. They way he was acting was literally like every other young male who came into the store, usually asking for blunts or black and milds. Moving slow, taking a long time to give me crumpled dollar bills, walking around aimlessly.
I wonder if they tested for drank. He definitely looked like he might've been on that too.
Posted by: Jose | May 19, 2012 at 09:07 PM
"Moving slow, taking a long time to give me crumpled dollar bills, walking around aimlessly."
Agree. I think part of it is a subconscious dominance ritual. Moving slowly when somebody is waiting for you shows that you are higher status than them.
Anyway, watching him the 7-11 video definitely sets off my thugdar.
Posted by: sabril | May 20, 2012 at 08:58 AM
I saw the video. If I saw someone like that walking around in my neighborhood, I'd be suspicious too. From seeing the video, he's not this puny kid the media have made him out to be. treyvon was a guy!
What I am wondering is about the pot found in his system at the time of death. We know from media reports and Frank Taaffe that the gated community had their issues with burglaries. What about drug dealing? The fact that he went out at the time of night he did and the fact he was "wandering around" and looking into people's homes, etc....I wonder if he was looking for someone to get more drugs? I know he called Dee Dee but who else was he on the phone with before that?
Posted by: Lindsay Horton | May 20, 2012 at 12:12 PM
Instead of coming down hard on Sanford PD for not doing their job, people need to be looking more closely at Trayvon's parents. He was suspended for being caught with marijuana and now the autopsy says he had marijuana in his system. Then, you have his twitter page which is an embarassment in itself. I don't have kids so forgive me for being insensitive but how do you not know your kid is doing drugs? How do you not see what he's doing online? Maybe if the parents had done their job and addressed Trayvon's behavior head on, their son might still be alive today.
Posted by: Kevin | May 20, 2012 at 03:06 PM
"Newsflash, dweebs: black men are NOT stronger, more athletic, or better street fighters than men of other races."
Peter, give it up. From what I've seen here in the East Bay, even black girls practice fighting more than the typical middle-class white male.
Posted by: smead jolley | May 20, 2012 at 03:26 PM
All of reports I can find on this just say traces of THC, don't give the level, and don't indicate whether it was active THC, which would indicate use in last 24 hr, or inactive THC, which could indicate regular use, but not in the last 24 hours.
In any event, finding only a trace of THC indicates he did not smoke marijuana on his walk to the 7-11. He was not high on marijuana or any other drugs. There were no drugs found on TM.
Zimmerman was wrong about TM being high on drugs and HS was wrong about TM going to the 7-11 as a cover to smoke a joint or buy drugs.
Posted by: mikeca | May 20, 2012 at 03:56 PM
Siggie, OT, do you have any hypothesis for the rash of sex abuse crimes committed by Jews in Brooklyn?: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/holy_hell_in_klyn_uQrkjiBnlj8rG5p4VtOv3I?utm_source=SFnewyorkpost&utm_medium=SFnewyorkpost
Posted by: DaveinHackensack | May 20, 2012 at 04:11 PM
The clerk is clearly very uneasy about Trayvon, probably because he sensed that Trayvon was high and ambling around aimlessly. That whole stretching/calisthenics routine was definitely a way for him to try and hide his visceral reaction to Trayvon's presence.
Too bad that they didn't go up there immediately and ask the clerk if he remembered seeing the kid.
Posted by: Camlost | May 20, 2012 at 04:13 PM
Also, the sex abuse crimes being committed in Hollywood, as documented by Feldman, Travolta, et al.
More on topic, warrior gene YBMs do not respond to marihuana the same way the nerds, betas, hippies, and hipsters you all know do.
Posted by: Whitey Whiteman III | May 20, 2012 at 05:15 PM
OT,
Sigma, could you post an update to your "white births a now a minority" post?
Whites were not a minority of births in July 2011.
I pulled up a pdf last night and according to the CDC's preliminary natality data for 2010, white births were 54% of all births in 2010, which was a little bit higher than 2009.
An absolute number 2,161,000 white children were born in 2010 compared to a national total of almost exactly 4 million births. Black births fell by 20,000 and Hispanic births fell by over 50,000.
The CDC data is based on an absolute count from over 99% of all hospitals in America. The Census data is just a projection, and thus less accurate than the CDC's actual hard count of births.
According to the CDC, for June 2011, all births are down by 80,000 compared to the same period in 2010.
Go to the CDC website under birth data and look for yourselves.
The media is lying, again.
Posted by: The Undiscovered Jew | May 20, 2012 at 07:57 PM
The 2010 CDC preliminary report was actually *good* news, the percentage of white births nudged up to 54% and racial minority birth rates declined. Most of the decline in total births is coming from Hispanics whose birth rates are down by over 100,000 since the housing bubble burst.
Posted by: The Undiscovered Jew | May 20, 2012 at 07:59 PM
A very quick observation on Episode 6 of "Girls" (I'm still watching it on HBO GO, full recap to follow): Hannah's mom has a terrific rack.
Posted by: Peter | May 20, 2012 at 11:09 PM
"Go to the CDC website under birth data and look for yourselves.
The media is lying, again."
Well, they just jumped the gun a little bit.
But it won't be long -minority births will certainly surpass white births (permanently) in the next 5 years, absent some very, very serious additional immigration backlash.
Posted by: camlost | May 20, 2012 at 11:50 PM
Peter,
"Then why the f*** didn't Zimmerman fight back? No matter what anyone says I do NOT believe that Martin was so physically superior to render Zimmerman helpless. Newsflash, dweebs: black men are NOT stronger, more athletic, or better street fighters than men of other races."
No, BUT, as everyone has said, the guy who:
1) throws the first punch
2) fights to win (i.e., doesn't give a damn about killing his opponent)
will win 95% of the time. I believe Trayvon threw the first punch.
Again, if you don't know how to throw a punch or execute a takedown, weight room strength does not mean much, if anything, in a fight.
I detest putting up 'e-stats', but I deadlift 550, squat 530, and bench 375 at a body weight of 179 pounds -- I am certainly stronger than 99.9% of all males in the United States, black, white, Asian, Hispanic, tall, short...whatever. I was also a college athlete (gymnast), so I am much faster and more coordinated as well.
However, I literally have no idea how to throw a punch or take someone down. I could easily see myself getting my ass kicked in a fight, even against a weaker opponent, IF they were the sort who had experience fighting and were not hesitant to hurt me.
Posted by: Matt in RTP | May 20, 2012 at 11:55 PM
Here's a more detailed recap, building on what Otis the Sweaty has written:
Almost all of the episode takes place in Michigan, where Hannah has flown back for her parents' 30th anniversary. The only New York scene with Hannah is at the very beginning, when Marnie reminds her that the rent is due next week.
Mom and Dad, who seemed rather unpleasant in the pilot episode, come off much better in this one. It's clear that they are genuinely concerned about Hannah. Their concern would be even greater if they knew that Hannah has quit her job at the law firm. Hannah is a bit of a c*nt toward them at first, though she gets nicer as the episode goes on.
Hannah goes into town to pick up Mom's menopause prescription and runs into a school friend who now works in a coffee shop. The friend says that she is moving to Los Angeles to become a dancer, and Hannah is a bit surprised to hear that the friend has no contacts or connections lined up. Hannah's concern for her old friend is really uncertainty over whether she herself made the right decision to move to New York to pursue her dream of being a writer. The friend tells her about a benefit show being held that evening for the family of another young woman (whom Hannah barely knew) who had disappeared on a trip and is feared dead.
At the drugstore, Hannah starts talking with the young pharmacist, who was another high school classmate. He now owns the drugstore along with his father. He is a bit nerdy but a decent enough type. The young man invites Hannah out that evening, and she accepts. She had originally planned to go to dinner with her parents, but they don't mind her change of plans especially after she convinced them that the anniversary dinner would make more sense if it's just the two of them.
That evening, the young man takes Hannah out for pizza, and then they go the aforementioned benefit show. At the show, the young woman with the plans to be a dancer in Los Angeles puts on a dance number, which is crude and amateurish. Hannah realizes that the young woman's dreams of being a big-time Hollywood dancer are going to be a complete flop.
After the benefit, Hannah and the young man go back to his apartment, where (what a surprise!) they end up Doing the Dirty Deed. Hannah's unimpressive hooters are on display for an impressive amount of time. Meanwhile, back at home, Mom and Dad are having wild monkey sex in the shower. Mom's hooters are much nicer than Hannah's. The sex is so wild, in fact, that Dad falls out of the shower, knocks himself out, and injures his back. Hannah arrives home about then, and she and Mom are able to get Dad into bed. Mom then tells Hannah that despite their earlier decision to cut her off financially, they are still willing to help if needed. Hannah says that she's fine and no help is needed.
Later that evening Hannah gets a call from Adam. Although she's previously told Mom and Dad that there was nothing going on between them anymore, it's clear that Adam is still interested. Hannah tells Adam that she'd had sex earlier that evening, which doesn't seem to bother him much, but then tells him how the young pharmacist had an apartment that was much bigger and cheaper than anything in New York. She asks Adam to describe what he sees outside his window in Brooklyn, and he tells her that he sees a crack ho wandering around. End of episode.
The main theme of this episode is that Hannah is seriously reconsidering her decision to move away in search of fame and fortune. Inspired in part by her friend's absurd dream to be a dancer in Hollywood, and the young pharmacist's nice apartment, Hannah is coming to realize that staying in familiar territory is maybe not always the worst idea even if it lacks the "glamor" of New York or Los Angeles.
As I mentioned, Marnie appears only very briefly. Jessa, Shoshanna, Charlie and Ray do not appear at all.
Posted by: Peter | May 20, 2012 at 11:57 PM
I didn't realize this was the "La Raza" fan page. Had I known speaking poorly of Hispanics was not allowed I would not have done so. For that I apologize.
But did you have to delete my Girls review? Now I have to retype it.
[HS: "mean-spirited comments only make the HBD blogging community look bad, as well as being unnecessarily mean."]
Posted by: Otis the Sweaty | May 21, 2012 at 05:37 AM
"All of reports I can find on this just say traces of THC, don't give the level, and don't indicate whether it was active THC, which would indicate use in last 24 hr, or inactive THC, which could indicate regular use, but not in the last 24 hours."
Really? Could you find the actual autopsy report that was released last week?
The Seminole County autopsy report showed 1.5 ng/ml THC and 7.2 ng/ml THC-COOH. I did a bit of Googling and it seems that in most states that have THC intoxication limits (I was surprised there was such a thing) is 2 ng/ml.
I checked a cannabis metabolism fact sheet at the NHTSA at the following URL:
http://www.nhtsa.gov/people/injury/research/job185drugs/cannabis.htm
"It is difficult to establish a relationship between a person's THC blood or plasma concentration and performance impairing effects. Concentrations of parent drug and metabolite are very dependent on pattern of use as well as dose. THC concentrations typically peak during the act of smoking, while peak 11-OH THC concentrations occur approximately 9-23 minutes after the start of smoking. Concentrations of both analytes decline rapidly and are often < 5 ng/mL at 3 hours. It is inadvisable to try and predict effects based on blood THC concentrations alone, and currently impossible to predict specific effects based on THC-COOH concentrations."
Trayvon was at 1.5 ng/ml, which is pushing the intoxication limit in a number of states. Based on these figures, I think it is safe to say that he had not smoked within three hours of the incident, but I cannot otherwise state an opinion about how his body might metabolize cannaboids. However, to my layman's eye, the behavior of Trayvon in the 7-11 security video was not that of a sober person: the aimless wandering, the fumbling with the money.
P.S. HS, why do I get prompted for Captcha every time I post now? It used to just happen every once in a while but now it is constant. Is this a site-wide feature, or do I need to look at my browser settings?
Posted by: Tanizaki | May 21, 2012 at 09:41 AM
If we're REDUCED to sifting thru the trash
looking for justifications for a
"white" male shooting a thug
that rely upon SMOKIN' A DOOBIE
might as well Glock half the American population.
Posted by: Firepower | May 21, 2012 at 09:45 AM