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June 20, 2012

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I suppose I'll move my last too comments here.

This is simple. Asians are good betas. They are excellent at non-creative intellectual tasks. If it's boring but it needs to be done and it requires right side of the bell curve IQ Asians are excellent for it.

How many of those people do you need? Maybe 5% of society, which is about what we have.

Alphas (creative high IQ): Northern Europeans/Jews

Betas (non-creative above average IQ): Asians, Nerdy whites

Gammas (military, skilled trade, middle class roles): Average Whites

Deltas (construction, assembly line workers): Hispanics, Prole Whites

Omegas (McDonalds): Blacks

The problem is:

1) Asians are meant to be beta and trying to be alpha.

2) Automation has made many Gamma, Delta, and Omega roles obsolete. In Brave New World automation was regulated so that those classes would have jobs.

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I should follow up on why #1 is a problem. When Asians compete to be alphas they don't compete by innovating. They compete by grinding. Basically, they try to become a beta on steroids in order to be an alpha.

However, this doesn't increase the output of the alpha class. It merely forces actual alphas to grind more, which is a zero sum status race that doesn't benefit anyone.

That is why whites resent Asians. They ruin being alpha by turning it into a grindy status race rather then something that is actually fun to be.

HS,

If you look at the average Korean dry cleaners or Vietnamese barber shop, the family (or extended family) that operates the establishment is smart enough to take advantage of the law to get the benefits of big government while not paying taxes.

Having your relatives work off the books while the white run business is paying withholding and state income taxes gives a huge advantage to Asian owned businesses.

On the downside, Asians seem to not like banks, mutual funds, investing, estate planning, or owning stocks. A country dominated by Asians is going to have fewer jobs for investment advisers, bankers, or insurance salesmen.

[HS: Assuming that Asians don't adopt American attitudes towards these things, an assumption which probably isn't valid.]

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Asian women are twice as likely as Asian men to marry out.

There must be a lot of single Asian men out there. How will they satisfy their needs. Perhaps this is why anime and video games are so popular?

A bigger government doesn't provide more services, it employs more surly negroes.

I'm dating an Asian woman who is the daughter of immigrants and is a big government liberal. I think that may be partly because liberals are more accepting of her while she's always treated as more of an outsider by conservative types. At least that's what I feel from what she's told me. So that may be one reason why Asians are more likely to be liberal. She also seems pretty conformist, which may be true for a lot of Asians. The dominant ideology on her college campus, probably true of any college campus, was liberalism so she became liberal partly because everyone else around her was liberal when she was forming her political beliefs. So that may be another reason why she's liberal. She doesn't really benefit from liberalism that much because she didn't get into college through affirmative action and has to pay high taxes on her higher than average income so liberalism doesn't benefit her in any economic sense. She must be liberal for other non-economic reasons.

"In a very bad trend, 31% of native-born Asian women who had children had them out of wedlock, compared to only 9.6% of foreign-born Asian women. This is an example of downward cultural drift, with Asians picking up our bad morals."

Or an example of regression to the mean, especially with respect to South and Southeast Asians.

"Asians don’t get the American spirit of independence and self-sufficiency."

That *is* a distinctly English trait (next blog post).

I certainly don't buy that 31% of native-born Asian women are having kids out of wedlock. Educated women just don't do this that often.

I can't stand predominately FOB Asian neighborhoods myself. They tend to full of stores selling cheap crappy schlock, low-quality produce, unsanitary meats, msg laden foods with questionable food preparation practices, massage parlors, salons with horrible hair stylists, hostess bars and other undesirable shady stuff. I once lived in a FOB Asian hood, and I absolutely no desire to patronize one of the many hundreds of shady businesses and had to go to another hood.

Also, FOB Asians have a tendency to knock down perfectly decent buildings and erect garish monstrosities with tacky ostentatious embellishments in their place. I also don't understand why health conscious SWPLs get all giddy about trying out Asian food and going shopping at Asian markets, when the food are likely directly from China and full of pesticides and GMOs. The SWPL get all giddy about buying Chinese gowns made in a sweat factory in China, but become indignant about goods sold at Big Box stores that sell sweatshop made goods (Target is often exempted from ridicule as well).

> Asians don’t get the American spirit of
> independence and self-sufficiency.

Asians also don't get the traditional American ethic that shuns ostentatious display of wealth. NY and LA are exceptions, but in most parts of the US, people with money take more of the Millionaire Next Door approach and at least make an effort and talk about avoiding the rat race, that is a never-ending status competition.

Asians and especially Chinese generally have no qualms about conspicuous consumption. When Asians have money they flaunt it as much as ghetto gangsters, albeit in their own way.

Chinese in the U.S. do have a very high future time orientation and they do work hard, but they are ruthlessly obsessed with wealth and status and lack the sense of community, charity and personal integrity found in traditional America.

MV


"Asian women are twice as likely as Asian men to marry out. Among blacks, the gender pattern runs the other way—men are more than twice as likely as women to marry out."
This is because blacks have higher testosterone (and therefore more masculine (less attractive) women), and Asians have higher estrogen, and so less masculine men. So the Asian women seek more masculine men and black men seek more feminine women.

The Power Status Quo Elite
SIMPLY REALIZED they can't survive on colored breeding and illegal immigration to plow the fields.

They need Insta-Brains.

Their hope? Get Asians to breed with coloreds just like whites did.

Resume Control...

As an Asian. I would like to think we more potential than to be subservient to the Alphas having fun while we get to do the high IQ not-so-fun work. The grinding is the culture (much of our thinking have been academia based, which rewards greatly for grinding versus the real world), not our genetic nature.

"Asian Americans prefer a big government that provides more services (55%) over a smaller government than provides fewer services (36%). In contrast, the general public prefers a smaller government over a bigger government, by 52% to 39%.

Asians don’t get the American spirit of independence and self-sufficiency. "

Or this reflects that they are product of long civilization. People with recent hunter-gather heritage would not like any goverment or regulation. Civilized people just do not like wild-west setting.

"That is why whites resent Asians. They ruin being alpha by turning it into a grindy status race rather then something that is actually fun to be".

Again, what are you talking about? You sound like an idiot. Are you a White guy who is a NAM apologist, because that's what NAMs only care about, having fun at all costs and to everyone's else expense?

Did you ever realized that NAMs don't care about grinding, but spending every last dime they have and then blaming it on Whitey when they don't have money? Of course people of a lower intellect wouldn't know how to handle their finances.

You know the miserly Asians are now bailing out your spendthrift ways as the West sinks into debt.

It is worth noting that college educated Asians are more realistic in their assessment of how Asians fare when it comes to college admissions than non-graduate Asians are. The conventional assumption is minority = helpful, but with a view from up close, it becomes clearer that a minorities come in different varieties.

Regarding the idea that Asians are just good at grinding out at a task and are not able to think creatively.

I think Asians go for grinding out to get into school and to pick a career because a lot of the high prestige jobs are shut out for Asians. The positions such as CEO or head of a charity will go to those who are in the right fraternity or have the right family connections. Sometimes laboratory work or accountant work is just the best option.

Supposing there are some Asians working for a SWPL company like Apple. I think it is more likely that the SWPL will discriminate against Asians as being not creative because they are threatened by them not because they cannot think for themselves. This is not really racism. SWPL will do this to other non elite white people as well for the same reasons.

I think when all is said and done Asians are following the trajectory of Jews. When Jews first came to this country they did the shit work that Wasps did not want to do like the textile industry.
There is just to much history you can go back on showing China and Japan innovated independently from the west to say that Asians are just good at grinding.


Dreamer,

Asian test grinding has a several thousand year tradition in Chinese culture. In addition, their tightly controlled imperial system squashed creativity and independence. I don't know how long it will take to break that. I agree

Just speculating,

Asia pays tribute to the west. Trade deficits = tribute. They give us real goods in exchange for paper promises we have no intention of keeping. They pay tribute for the same reason all states pay tribute for all of time, because we have a bigger military and force it on them.

"In a very bad trend, 31% of native-born Asian women who had children had them out of wedlock, compared to only 9.6% of foreign-born Asian women. This is an example of downward cultural drift, with Asians picking up our bad morals."

Thus my preference for American-born Asian women. If you're looking for loose, SWPL-ish Asians your best bet is native-born, and of non-Chinese descent. Younger helps too, partly due to the normal effects of youth, and partly because those born later are more likely to be thoroughly Americanized.

JimB,

Are Asians getting discriminated against by the Nobel prize committee? Are the being discriminated against at the rate they come up with breakthrough scientific discoveries? Truth is, even when Jews were being discriminated against, they were still killing in the world of elite accomplishment. You just couldn't keep those people down, even though there were so few of them.

I've talked to people at elite institutions about Asian elite accomplishment. And what I hear isn't discrimination, it's dissapointment. Mr. Kim had great grades and scores coming out of Harvard, but he never became a rainmaker and was stuck at VP. That's the kind of thing I hear.

I'm sure there is some discrimination, just as Asians discriminate against non-Asians, but whenever you've got to resort to "you people are threatened by us" as an explanation for a lack of accomplishment you've lost.

No "survey" of any group is worth anything unless we hear their feelings about blacks.

Couple of points:

- Corruption is rampant in nearly all parts of Asia. I'd bet that there's a connection somehow between that and Asians' attitudes toward big government. It could be nothing more complicated than a view that small, limited government means fewer chances for graft, patronage, and engaging in quid pro quo.

- "Having face" and not "losing face" are big deals in most Asian cultures, hence the tasteless displays of conspicuous consumption. But it only goes so far. Here where I live in southern California Asians driving BMWs and Mercedes are ubiquitous, and they live in expensive homes too. But the inside of those homes are furnished - I kid you not - with folding tables and chairs, and the backyards often look like crap. The attitude seems to be "outward appearance is important, who cares what the inside looks like?"

ASDF,

"Asia pays tribute to the west. Trade deficits = tribute. They give us real goods in exchange for paper promises we have no intention of keeping. They pay tribute for the same reason all states pay tribute for all of time, because we have a bigger military and force it on them".

You sound like a sour grapes guy. And we gave them manufacturing recipes for exchange of fiat money, so who is the loser on this one?

"Are Asians getting discriminated against by the Nobel prize committee? Are the being discriminated against at the rate they come up with breakthrough scientific discoveries? Truth is, even when Jews were being discriminated against, they were still killing in the world of elite accomplishment".

It took Jews several generations to reach elite status, and many of those Jews actually came from means. They were also etrenched in White gentile society for many centuries. You are comparing to a group whos been in this country fairly recently with a few resources. Besides, most Jews deal with intangibles that produce nothing of value. The Asians are lot more productive. I see all these Wall St types dine on expensive sushi. What happened to good ol' Jewish deli food? Admit to us that you guys are stagnating in many facets of life. Many of you guys nowadays are no different from NAMs, just another group of parasites leeching off hoping the world doesn't end. Those that whine and complain about Asians being uncreative is just as baseless as Blacks playing the race card.

not a hacker,

Asians report getting along with whites even better than they get along with other Asians, far better than they get along with Hispanics and far, far better than they get along with blacks.

"Only 12% of Asians think that being Asian hurts their chances of college admission. Isn’t that cute. The vast majority of Asians are completely unaware that colleges discriminate against them"

Not all colleges. Elite universities discriminate, but only a small percentage of college students attend such institutions.

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"A country dominated by Asians is going to have fewer jobs for ... insurance salesmen."

THANK FREAKING GOD!!!!! Insurance salesman is the most bogus fake "job" in existence.

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"blacks have higher testosterone (and therefore more masculine (less attractive) women), and Asians have higher estrogen, and so less masculine men"

There are NO significant differences in testosterone levels among the races.

Nobel prize committee?

The same committee that gave Obama a Nobel peace prize?

"I certainly don't buy that 31% of native-born Asian women are having kids out of wedlock. Educated women just don't do this that often."

What makes you think that all asians are educated? There is a huge asian prole population, especially among the Vietnamese, Filipinos, Laotians, Cambodians, and some Chinese. Many of them are hardcore imitators of blacks and refer to each other as "nigga." I've met some who came over from asia and literally learned ebonics or black vernacular as a second language. They had no idea how to speak standard English.

"From 2008 to 2010, 29% of all Asian newlyweds married someone of a different race, compared with 26% of Hispanics, 17% of blacks and 9% of whites. There are notable gender differences. Asian women are twice as likely as Asian men to marry out. Among blacks, the gender pattern runs the other way—men are more than twice as likely as women to marry out."

Purely an American phenomenon. I'm guessing there is an excess of males from the new Asian immigrant population. This is what's going to happen:

http://englishrussia.com/2011/12/27/assimilation-the-way-it-is-going-in-the-russian-far-east/

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/dispatches/features/2009/where_russia_meets_china/why_are_siberian_russians_drawn_to_china.html

"One feature of the Russian-Chinese relationship seemed especially telling: Cross-border marriages are overwhelmingly between Chinese men and Russian women."

Very similar to when Mongol hordes turned Kazakhstan into a land of Eurasians.

Long live WGWAG!

I'm an Asian guy. hth

[HS: WGWAG is a term from the xoxohth forums.]

"Or an example of regression to the mean, especially with respect to South and Southeast Asians."

You're talking out of your ass if you think the "mean" behavior for South Asians is high proportions of out of wedlock children. South Asia and the Middle East likely have the lowest proportion of bast**** in the world.

There's other evidence that South Asians at least are not regressing the the mean in terms of IQ, but I don't care to go into that.

Exactly the nobel prize is meaningless, it is not a measure of creativity because the methodology used to choose the winner is full of bias.

3,000 people have the ability to nominate someone,

The nobel committee consists of 5 people who make the final decision on who wins.

Its no surprise that almost every winner is a white or a jew. The nobel peace prizes are nothing more than popularity contests

"But the inside of those homes are furnished - I kid you not - with folding tables and chairs, and the backyards often look like crap." - Sgt Joe Friday

That's the truth. My uncle used to do a lot of residential installation and he saw the inside of a lot of houses. He said a number of McMansions had fancy cars in the driveway and a nice living room. But the bedrooms had mattresses on the floor, etc. Obviously, most didn't but he said he saw it regularly. But these were white folks not Asians. So "keeping up the with the Jones's" runs in all cultures.


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"The same committee that gave Obama a Nobel peace prize?" - JimB

The peace prize is for affirmative action. Most of the others are legit.

The "Asians vs whites" thread was getting a bit long, so I will post my response to just speculating here.

1) Btw, "just speculating", are you white or Asian?

"And yes, I believe there is stark behavorial differences between the Medish White population and the Nordic types which may not bode well for a pan White society,"

2) Southern Europeans and Northern Europeans have proven they can coexist and adapt to the other's civilization and culture in culturally Germanic Switzerland and culturally Mediterranean France.

Switzerland is ethnically an amalgamation of Germans, Italians, and French (with smaller European groups scattered in) but has remained culturally Germanic for the most part. Thus, ethnic Southern Europeans have demonstrated they can assimilate very well into a German civilization, just as they have in predominately Ango-Saxon-German American.

In France, the French are an amalgamation of Southern Europeans and Germanic groups because France borders both Southern Europe and Germanic nations of Germany, Belgium, and Britain. The Northern Europeans in France have largely assimilated into France's Mediterranean/Catholic culture. So Germans have demonstrated they are compatible with Mediterranen civilization.

The reason there is psychological compatibility between Northern and Southern Europe is because there has been a great deal of gene flow between the North and South over thousands of years. French are a 50-50 cross between Southern Europeans and Northern Europeans. Germans are 22% Southern Europe according to Dienekes.

Asians, of course, are not as culturally compatible in Northern civilizations because they have not undergone because of evolutionary pressure, and a sane white immigration policy should be 100% white in order to maintain Western culture.

"And the European Gentile dwarf Ashkenazim in achievements pertaining to all areas of human life, "

2) I've never disputed most of the great geniuses of history are gentile white.

Asians have very few Nobel prizes in the hard sciences, which indicates they are inherently lacking in scientific genius compared to the far more successful Europeans and European Jews, who are genetically white (which is why European Jews have high intelligence. Jews are simply a high IQ segment of white people.)

"All I can tell you is that America is a 2nd rate country when it comes to creativity and innovation."

"My posts were responses to Undiscovered Jew's unrelenting idea that Jews belong in Western nations more than Asians, when in fact they were for the most part unwelcomed throughout European history."

3) Jewish persecution is irrelevant to this discussion because there isn't a large pool of Jewish immigrants to choose from compared to the two something billion Asians on Earth and Jews are white (even the slave owning Civil War Confederacy considered Jews like Judah Benjamin to be white) while Asians are not.

"Japanese Americans are the most likely to marry a non-Asian, and Indian Americans are the least likely. The Pew survey has definitely confirmed my suspicions that the Japanese are the most Americanized of all Asians,"

Japanese Americans were assimilated when America had less ethnic balkanazition.

If you, Sigma, want Asian immigrants to assimilate better and faster, doesn't large scale immigration retard their assimilation into the American mainstream by making whites withdraw to more ethnically homogenous enclaves?

How will Asian immigrants assimilate if whites keep pulling their kids from elite private schools that become too much Asian?

Wouldn't pausing Asian immigration (or at least reducing it, along with other immigration, and favoring European immigration) actually be beneficial to current Asian arrivals, from your perspective?

[HS: I'm in favor of ending all immigration until the unemployment situation improves, but no one is listening to me.]

If Asians and Whites (Jews included) could complement each other, we would have a more productive society. Both groups are highly intelligent and could use their unique adaptive abilities for the benefit of the other.

Of course this seems idealistic and it would never happen. But then it could, since someone here said Asians get along better with Whites than with their own kind. I guess there needs to be an environment for it.

"Very similar to when Mongol hordes turned Kazakhstan into a land of Eurasians."

Untrue. In fact, what happened in (most) of Central Asia was whole-scale population replacement. The native Caucasoid Indo-Europeans were completely wiped out by the Mongol hordes. The Kazakhs are fully Mongol, they are not "Eurasian" as per common belief. Only Uzbekistan/Tajekistan is Eurasian now (much higher concentrations of Persian speakers).

"One feature of the Russian-Chinese relationship seemed especially telling: Cross-border marriages are overwhelmingly between Chinese men and Russian women."

I'm surprised. During the Soviet and Tsarist eras, marriages between Slavs and Mongoloid Central Asians were unheard of.

HS, could you please stop calling them "Asians"? It's irritating. I'm a Slav from Asia, and I am "Asian". Just call them Mongoloids. That way, everyone knows that is being discussed. Hell, I'm an "Asian"..

"[HS: WGWAG is a term from the xoxohth forums.]"

Thanks Half-Sigma. Btw, it was originally this webpage and its obsession with the WM/AF that also got me obsessed with this. As an Asian guy, I never really noticed this phenomenon. Maybe my brain didn't notice it because the girls are usually not the females I would want to mate with.

But oh man, white males ravaging our females just turns the F***CK out of me. Seriously, I don't know why. Too bad American p*rn with Asian chicks the girls are sooo fuugly (as in not Japanese AV style chicks but really thick ugly types . . . what is up with that!?). My ideal scenario would be a tall blond Aryanesque dude just b*nging away with a super thin pale-skinned Asian princess like this:

http://i49.tinypic.com/2uy1509.jpg

But for some reason THIS NEVER HAPPENS in real life or in p*rn. WHY!? This would really get me off.

Unlimited economic growth is over, and the name of the game is racial spoils.

"31% of native-born Asian women who had children had them out of wedlock" - Ouch, hope they are atleast cohabitating with the father, though in no uncertain terms is that anything but bad news.

Just speculating,

Asians are great to have around in limited numbers. Every office needs one or two for the shitwork. Any more and it starts to break down the social fabric and trust. I've seen it everywhere I work.

The equilibrium is about 5% of population and less then 15% of elite population.

HS: "I'm in favor of ending all immigration until the unemployment situation improves, but no one is listening to me."

I sort of agree, though it's a complete pipe dream. I'm happy just to see some illegal immigrants going home, and a shift in favor of Asian/skilled immigrants.

Immigration should be more skilled, illegal immigration stopped, and the legal immigration process made more difficult for the low IQ [if this were done right the average IQ of newly arrived Hispanics *might* rise over 100, with the added benefit of above average conscientiousness]. Additionally the skilled immigration system should be less tied to employers and seek out innovators rather than high-tech coolies.

Also, I tend to think that it's less high-IQ immigrants themselves who innovate than their high-IQ, Americanized kids. I doubt that first-generation Jewish immigrants (for example) tended to be especially creative, the main exceptions being those of middle-class backgrounds escaping the Nazis or the Commies.

"Asians are great to have around in limited numbers. Every office needs one or two for the shitwork. Any more and it starts to break down the social fabric and trust. I've seen it everywhere I work.

The equilibrium is about 5% of population and less then 15% of elite population".

What are you trying to say kid? You know people used to say the same about Jews who were stereotyped as untrustworthy and too competitive.

Who do you work with? Asian immigrants who haven't quite assimilated the American social etiquette? And why do you care that they grind to the top if all they are doing is shit work?

So what happens when loser white betamales marry a ton of Asian women and produce a huge generation of Half-White Half-Asian sons?

"How will Asian immigrants assimilate if whites keep pulling their kids from elite private schools that become too much Asian?"

I wouldn't say the schools are an issue. It's has to do with the type of immigrants that come here. Low skilled immigrants will likely beget kids who are less inclined to assimilate, reasons citing such as lower socioeconomic status, less educated, and the tendency to congregate around their ethnic enclaves. But social pressures and incentives does force upon Asians to release their provincial identity to become more "white".

Prole Whites usually among the Irish and Italian Catholics, and now also the recent Russian Jewish immigrants will need a few generations before they become "Anglicized". The reason for this is because there is less of a social pressure (more for the Asians) to become "white" when you are already afforded with this priviledge.

I have to write that while I can read the comments about our natures decently enough and how it reacts in the work world. I find that the place of Asian in an office is so we can do shit work is insulting. I think we are varied enough and not biologically determined so much that Asians in the work place equals "he's there so we can get to do the fun stuff."

C'mon I'm writing this in an R&D department right now. I'm not here along with the others to be stuff as the worker drone beta while the other co-workers see themselves as better alphas so they can get to do the more fun stuff.

"So what happens when loser white betamales marry a ton of Asian women and produce a huge generation of Half-White Half-Asian sons?" - A lot of loser asian betas didn't get to breed is what happens. Illegitimacy is still much worse than outmarriage numberswise, but I'd suspect that they are both sides of the same coin.

asdf

Your lack of tact and discretion isn't helping your case.

"So what happens when loser white betamales marry a ton of Asian women and produce a huge generation of Half-White Half-Asian sons? "

This phenomenon only occurs in the US. The vast VAST majority of them (basically all half-asians) get absorbed into the Caucasian gene pool.

"Asians are great to have around in limited numbers. Every office needs one or two for the shitwork."

We more alpha Asians need guys like this in the US:

http://www.bigwowo.com/2011/12/philipp-rosler-vice-chancellor-of-germany/

SECOND MOST POWERFUL MAN IN EX-NAZI GERMANY IS AN PURE EAST ASIAN DUDE. WUT. And he WGWAGS (though she looks like of fugly in that pic).

I'm an Asian guy.

Peter Lim,

You'd have more guys like that if your parents raised them white. Notice he was adopted by white parents as an infant and likely taught their norms. Notice that HS acknowledges Japanese Americans have assimilated because they've been here longer.

The trick is not to allow so many first generations in at one time that they can form self sustaining enclaves of their own kind where they refuse to assimilate. If you keep the Chinatowns small enough, and apply just enough discrimination to make people want to act white, within a generation or two you get twinkies that can ascend to elite power. Obama is a good example of this, though his black sex appeal helped a lot.

asdf:


LOL it would be a disaster if Japanese Americans are what Asians should aspire to. They're outmarriage rates for both men and females are over 50%. They're population is stagnant and dying and barely unrecognizable.

I would MUUUUCH rather have our own self sustaining enclaves and maintain some racial and ethnic coherence where we can form our own communities and businesses and power sturcture (Hawaii/Koreatown is a good example I guess maybe).

With the rise of East Asia led by China, this can only be a good thing. Why assimilate those who will soon play second fiddle?

"SECOND MOST POWERFUL MAN IN EX-NAZI GERMANY IS AN PURE EAST ASIAN DUDE."

People in Germany have no trouble accepting Vietnamese and other East Asians because they're far more worried about the Turks. It's similar to why no one minds blacks in Britain, everyone is too busy fretting over the Pakis.

Peter, "We more alpha Asians need guys like this in the US:

http://www.bigwowo.com/2011/12/philipp-rosler-vice-chancellor-of-germany/

SECOND MOST POWERFUL MAN IN EX-NAZI GERMANY IS AN PURE EAST ASIAN DUDE. WUT. And he WGWAGS (though she looks like of fugly in that pic)".

Well, we have Gary Locke, and he's far from having Alpha qualities. Anglosphere nations always had a strong disdain for Asians, although they don't mind them for menial work. They also produce Beta males like Gary Locke and others who couldn't win a schoolyard fight. Besides, our politics is just as bad as Dancing with the Stars.

Becoming a politician requires sociopathy. Hell, many Alpha qualities are sociopathic. Asian Americans don't do well in politics because being a sociopath contradicts their upbringinging of playing by the rules.

"People in Germany have no trouble accepting Vietnamese and other East Asians because they're far more worried about the Turks".

The most racist nations today are Anglo and Nordic countries which ironically, promote multiracialism. Central and Southern Europeans do not, but integrate their non White immigrants more effectively than their Anglo and Nordic counterparts.

Asian women in the U.S. (predominantly Chinese) are systematically marrying WASP men (take a walk in San Francisco or NYC if you don't believe me)to provide their children with caucasian characteristics. The problem with Asians, primarily the Chinese, is that they advantage themselves of the freedoms and opportunities the US has to offer without giving back.
They systematically evade the law (in business, tax evasion, etc.) and when they attain success they employ the mainland China mentality towards their white subordinates or those they are in transaction with.
For example, Chinese landlords in American cities with a high Chinese population are greedy slumlords and difficult, if not impossible to deal with. The Chinese glob onto government jobs for the benefits and abuse their privileges--lie about income to gain free benefits (it is not uncommon for upper middle class Chinese to lie to acquire food stamps, for example).
The Chinese do not give back to the greater community. They attain success and wealth and basically end up fucking everyone over (their tenants, their employees, etc.), in the same manner that the upper class Chinese fuck over the proles in China. They are very eager participants in American capitalism, yet they retain the worst of Chinese greed in terms of bettering society.

Asian women play up to the submissive stereotypes to attract white men--mainly a certain breed of WASP man who exoticize them and buys into their "act." Unlike Russian women whose monetary motives are obvious, Chinese women put on a good act. They are reared from childhood to put on this act. Even highly educated Chinese women put on this act (e.g. Amy Chua).
The Chinese will slowly, but surely, take over the US. In cities with increasingly high Asian female, white male couplings, a whole generation of half-breed children is already highly prevalent (e.g. San Francisco).

Among American born Asians, almost as many men marry out as women. In fact, if you're looking at non-trashy white females, more date Asians than date blacks from what I've seen in NYC. As more Asians become Americanized, more will attempt to take white women, and us white men need to realize that and do what it takes to prevent it.

Us Americans are glad to use Asians as grunt workers, this is what they are good at. Computers, engineering, etc. However, more are attempting to get into competitve and elite fields like law, where they do not belong. Also, they are increasingly complaining about not having access to the most elite jobs and women. They need to understand that they have it pretty good here; if they don't agree, they can go home.

"The Kazakhs are fully Mongol, they are not "Eurasian" as per common belief."

This is nonsense. See: http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2012/02/first-look-at-turkish-and-kyrgyz-data.html

The Kazakhs are more European than the Kyrgyz and Mongols (even the latter have non-trivial West Eurasian admixture), but less so than the Uzbeks.

HS, if people make fact claims, you should request a citation. Blog commenters get away with BS'ing with far too high of a frequency.

Jeff,

"Among American born Asians, almost as many men marry out as women. In fact, if you're looking at non-trashy white females, more date Asians than date blacks from what I've seen in NYC. As more Asians become Americanized, more will attempt to take white women, and us white men need to realize that and do what it takes to prevent it".

"Also, they are increasingly complaining about not having access to the most elite jobs and women. They need to understand that they have it pretty good here; if they don't agree, they can go home".

Do you know what is wrong with you said? It's contradicting at best.

You said that Asian men are starting to date a lot non trashy White females. Then you said a lot of them are complaining about not being able to date.

White men cannot prevent any racial minority from succeeding anymore and that includes interracial relations. Elite jobs like law are harder to find even for Whites. They either need to take up STEM fields for a good paying job or earn much less. Lawyers and Wall St guys were overpaid in the past.

"White men cannot prevent any racial minority from succeeding anymore and that includes interracial relations. Elite jobs like law are harder to find even for Whites. They either need to take up STEM fields for a good paying job or earn much less. Lawyers and Wall St guys were overpaid in the past."

Yes, we can, as long as we put our minds to it. We built America and still run America. However, those of us American men who are being given the shaft need to start acting in our interests.

STEM is for smelly Asians and Indians who can't get laid. White people don't do it. It's what we use Asians for - they get good salaries as long as they shut up.

"For example, Chinese landlords in American cities with a high Chinese population are greedy slumlords and difficult, if not impossible to deal with. The Chinese glob onto government jobs for the benefits and abuse their privileges--lie about income to gain free benefits (it is not uncommon for upper middle class Chinese to lie to acquire food stamps, for example)."

Never trust a FOB Chinese landlord. They will nickel and dime you on your deposit. They will be very cheap when it comes to repairs. They will blame you for basic wear and tear.

"However, those of us American men who are being given the shaft need to start acting in our interests".

Which means you need to get rid of the NAMs and the Liberals, so there would be more public sector and blue collar work for you guys. Not every White dude can be a lawyer or a Wall St banker because there aren't enough of those around. Besides, these jobs were hurting the American economy, too many unproductive overpaid pricks at their desks producing nothing of value, just like the NAMs with their welfare checks doing nothing. Prole Whites will be shafted if that's what you are talking about, because NAMs and Liberals are the ones who have been taking away their jobs.

"STEM is for smelly Asians and Indians who can't get laid. White people don't do it. It's what we use Asians for - they get good salaries as long as they shut up".

You must be kidding right? You know Whites used to to do all the STEM work before those smelly Asians came to the scene. At the time, America was able to be the most innovative country on earth before the Japanese, and now the Chinese.

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