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August 29, 2012

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Now can we get the same map for Marxists?

"Strangely, I’ve never been to the far northwest part of Queens, so I am really not that sure about the neighborhood."

HS, I assume you meant to write "far northEAST" part of Queens? In any case, I grew up there and lived there for 20 years and your assessment is accurate. There are also many people in those neighborhoods who are registered Democrats but who vote Republican. This is particularly true among older folks like my parents who remember the patronage system and how being a registered Republican in NYC excluded one from its rewards.

[HS: Thanks for your comment; I corrected the directional error in the post.]

There is nothing unusual about this map. Any area with large numbers of blacks will have a similar map.

This shows how Democrat come to dominate an area. When you are willing a precinct 99 to 1, you can dominate the non-black areas where you lose maybe 55 to 45 at the worst.

That's the dynamic in my area, Republicans are uncompetitive at the county level because of a relatively small number of urban, black precincts where we just get slaughtered.


"The most Republican parts of the city are prole white areas, which are in Staten Island and Belt Parkway Brooklyn. This map demonstrates perfectly how rich whites and poor NAMs are Democrats, while Republicans are the working-class whites. It also shows the SWPL divide....

SWPLs regardless of earning power, will always detest any "well to do" working class prole. They may have a lot of money, but they have poor tastes and are usually provincial minded, due to their lack of education.

UES SWPLs tread liberal no matter what. There isn't anything Republican about them. You're thinking that a Mitt Romney guy might thrive there, but his children would see him as a John Kerry type.

White ethnic or Prole neighborhoods in NYC are always conservative. They are found in parts of NE & NW, SW Queens, S Brooklyn, and the main core in Staten Island. Many of them are clean, quiet, safe, free from NAMs, but are just downright uninteresting. NYC is yet to have any suburban neighborhood like that of the San Diego vicinity, where it has towns that seem very conservative (clean, quiet & no NAMs), but are very liberal (creative SWPL types).

That map only shows voter registrations; in a place like NYC where the democratic primary is the de-facto election some people will register as a democrat despite the fact that they lean republican. A more acute map would use results from a presidential election.

staten island (where i grew up) is an anomoly given its high concentration of civil servants and other union members. perhaps at one time they were the quintessential reagan democrats but it no longer makes sense to vote repub what with their anti-union policies and degradation of the decent middle class living standards due to outsourcing and technology. these were not at risk when reagan was running for president.

that staten island is the land of dumb white proles is proven by this alone,i.e. voting republican and against their interests. i still have a lot of family there, but wild horses couldn't drag me back. the company here in flushing is so much better, even with all the asians.

Far NE Queens also has a very large number of Asians. I'm not sure where they stand in a political sense.

Don't get me started on Staten Island, I commute and work in this dump. Its a nature reserve for proles. All you need to do is go to the Staten Island mall for 5 minutes and you will see what happened to the white race, complete devastation, single mothers from age 15-50 with tattoos everywhere, they have no qualms on hitting on you too, tatted up girls like you wouldn't believe, tanned guidos with tats everywhere, everyone just hangs around the center kiosks and buys new cell phone cases or flying toy helicopters.

They make me look like a black guy at a KKK rally.

The Macy's area has lots of Republicans? I knew that Santa Claus was really GOP!

'Don't get me started on Staten Island'

you and me both.

just look at the housing stock compared to bklyn or queens. 'little houses made of ticky tacky' compared to the rowhouses elsewhere, even ones made for the working class a century ago (i used to live in one in kensington, bklyn.) the substantial brick tudors done to death in queens when it was developed in the '20's are still beautiful after 80 years.

the construction on staten island even in the 50's and just after the bridge was built is often an eyesore. cheap crap slapped together by corrupt sicilian builders (that's the only kind there) who regard staten island as their personal fiefdom. except for tony todt hill, of course, where many of them live and retreat to after looting the rest of the island.

staten island, whose most famous citizens are the members of the wu-tang clan.

"Far NE Queens also has a very large number of Asians. I'm not sure where they stand in a political sense".

I will say Asians here in the Northeast are not a monolithic group. Similar to Whites, they can be put into categories such as Prole and SWPL, although less discerning. There are Asian proles and there are Asian "SWPL" types. Even among the college educated, Asians who've attended less prestigious colleges in NY are prolish and less assimilated. They are looked down by the smart ones from the elite polished Ivy schools. I'm only speaking of the Asians here, which is unlike the West Coast, where there is a more uniformity in education, class and acculturation.

Just like NAMs, White working class ethnics are look down by those who've became SWPL. Although not as bad as NAMs, they still find them reprehensible. The same goes for those white groups who retain their prolish outlook once they ascend to the white collar world. Stephen Ercolino is a good example, if we want to talk about him again.

[HS: Being a salesman for a shlock clothing importer is barely white collar.]

HS said: Being a salesman for a shlock clothing importer is barely white collar.

He wore a shirt, tie and suit. That's good enough to be a white collar prole.


"that staten island is the land of dumb white proles is proven by this alone,i.e. voting republican and against their interests. "

You're an idiot. I hate the fucking argument. Like you would have any idea what is in a prole's interests.

"Just like NAMs, White working class ethnics are look down by those who've became SWPL. Although not as bad as NAMs, they still find them reprehensible. The same goes for those white groups who retain their prolish outlook once they ascend to the white collar world."

I don't look down on these people, I look down on the society that has foresaken these people. The destruction of family values, war on religion which used to keep people in lower socio-economic in line, the anti union and anti blue collar job immigration and policies which has lowered wages and torn communities up. The people and the prole culture are a symptom of the policies of the SWPL.

"The people and the prole culture are a symptom of the policies of the SWPL".

Not really, the core problem of our society has to do with the educated class trying to eliminate the working class, while providing sustenance to the NAM population. If we want an intelligent productive society, individuals failing to be socially upward need to be sidetracked, and no one has yet implemented a method to make the transition pleasant.

****This map demonstrates perfectly how rich whites and poor NAMs are Democrats, while Republicans are the working-class whites.***

This is basically true of New York, DC, LA, and San Francisco, and maybe Boston and Philadelphia.

The affluent in places like Phoenix, St. Louis, Atlanta, Cleveland etc. are all very Republican, in some cases (i.e. heavily unionized areas) more so than the white proles.

"I will say Asians here in the Northeast are not a monolithic group. Similar to Whites, they can be put into categories such as Prole and SWPL, although less discerning. There are Asian proles and there are Asian "SWPL" types. Even among the college educated, Asians who've attended less prestigious colleges in NY are prolish and less assimilated."

You are correct that some Asians are more prolish (or less SWPL) than others, but I would say that the main determinant is the length of time they or their families have been in America. For the most part, the Asians working in low-end jobs are immigrants or the US-born children of immigrants.

This map is totally useless for finding the bulk of republican power brokers, since it fails to show any significant data for the most affluent areas in the state such as Garden City, Plandome Village, Oyster Bay, Larchmont, Roslyn, Scarsdale, Munsey Park, Purchase, Westbury and Hewlett Neck N.Y.

I'm surprised the Upper East Side isn't populated with more republican Wall St. yuppies.

"the most affluent areas in the state such as ... Westbury"

*Old* Westbury. Just-plain-Westbury is heavily minority and working class at best.

Registered Democrat here. When in Rome, ya know?

"You are correct that some Asians are more prolish (or less SWPL) than others, but I would say that the main determinant is the length of time they or their families have been in America. For the most part, the Asians working in low-end jobs are immigrants or the US-born children of immigrants".

True, but I knew some 1st gen Asians whose parents were immigrants, and they became SWPL imitators within their lifetimes. They disparaged their fellow peers who were less assimilated and provincial bound. This is where the prole factor comes in. Other than that, oriental guidos do exist out there. LOL....

"I'm surprised the Upper East Side isn't populated with more republican Wall St. yuppies".

Those Wall St yuppies tend to be prolish and are children of proles from NYC's ethnic neighborhoods, Westchester and Long Island. They usually commute into the city for work, and if not, they carry their prole outlook wherever they go. Republican yuppies have no voice in the island of Manhattan simply because SWPLs are the defacto demographic in White neighborhoods.

When looking for a place to move in Manhattan, I skill try to go to an area with at least a few republicans like midtown or financial district. Fewer blacks and gays and more preppy good looking people.

Yes HS, broken down by education and race whites without a college degree are the most likely to be Republican.

The Republican party is the party of white trash.

Military officers are 80%+ Republican.

The Dems aren't better, but there are a few Dems who won't make you throw up.

Two party democracy is an oxymoron.

Slightly on topic: read Pat Buchanan's recent article at Taki's magazine

http://takimag.com/article/last_hurrah_of_nixons_new_majority_patrick_buchanan#axzz250EzPAgB

Buchanan holds that 2012 will be the very last presidential election that the Republicans will ever contest. Even if Romney wins this one, demographic inertia alone will assure that he won't win a second term, and no other Republican will win a subsequent one. I agree with Buchanan.

Republicans are doomed, but they did it to themselves (and the rest of us) by never challenging the Democrat's long game of importing a permanent backing electorate. Damn the Republicans.

"The Republican party is the party of white trash".

"Republicans are doomed, but they did it to themselves (and the rest of us) by never challenging the Democrat's long game of importing a permanent backing electorate. Damn the Republicans".

A burgeoning educated class of men will render proles obsolete. A college educated firefighter or plumber will be heading your way.

@Nicolai Yezhov

"Yes HS, broken down by education and race whites without a college degree are the most likely to be Republican.

The Republican party is the party of white trash."

You are positively wrong. Republicans have more white affluent voters, while the democrats have the rest plus the liberal academics. The public only sees the wealthy liberals of Hollywood due to TV, MSM and ignorance.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/151310/u.s.-republican-not-conservative.aspx

But if you would like to spew screwed stereotyped rhetoric then liberals are the party of dead beat Octomoms that vote for big government to create the welfare state.

Under Obama government's size increased from 20% to 40% overall. If we're lucky it'll be 60% after 8 years.

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