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September 11, 2012

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TV's ability to influence people's breeding efforts -- assuming the hypothesis is true -- proves that the desire to have children is a weak one compared to the desire for status or the desire for sex. media can only reflect or amplify preexisting desires; it cannot create wholesale alien human desires, such as, for example, a male desire for fat women. no amount of media propaganda in the world will make fat chicks desirable to the majority of men, nor will it make omega males desirable to the majority of women. this is because the sexual impulse, and additionally the hypergamous impulse in women, are the most powerful desires in the world, more powerful than even the drive for status, and primal desires that have evolved over millions of years are not easily dislodged or altered by media messages.

media can, however, seriously impact a weakly covalent desire like a presumed desire for children, because that desire, if it even exists, is so much weaker than the desire for sex or status. thus, the social proof of soap stars having small families (and in effect defying the prime Darwinian imperative) encourages the same from the wretches watching those shows.

social proof, btw, is a valid concept and has been proven in sociological studies to exert real influence on women's mate choices. men who are in the company of women are more interesting to other women than are men who are alone or in the company of men. social proof is an important tool that women use to screen for high mate value men, because there is an information asymmetry between men and women during the first few minutes and hours of meeting someone of the opposite sex. men know right away which women they want to screw, because all it takes is a look. women, in contrast, need more information about a man's desirability, and social proof helps fill in the gaps. it's an information expedient.

Jon and Kate plus Eight was extremely popular with a lot of the girls I know. I never saw the show, though, so maybe they were not portrayed as a family to emulate on it.

We got rid of our TV last week, after cutting off cable half a year ago. If someone is going to be brainwashing our four kids, at least let it be my wife and me.

Here's the comment, btw.

http://tinyurl.com/8vqurs3

@Jason Malloy:

Makes a lot of sense. Of course, I think this is compatible with my hypothesis, http://wp.me/p2yBY4-aW , women who have evolved under colonial expansion may indeed have stronger instincts for reproduction in and of itself (I know many younger women who long to be moms and are really only happy when the succeed). This may explain the higher fertility of religious types.

How about TLC channel's "The Duggars," 19 kids (or is it 20 now?) at last count.....

Television programs that do feature large families with multiple children are always shown as dis-functional, in a negative light, or to push some view point.

The Duggars are portrayed as redneck Christian idiots. But, there is no mention of self sufficiency, lack of welfare, and no mention of handouts. Clearly this show is racist and makes blacks look bad.

A remember a show called "7th heaven" a few years back. Once again the whites on this program were portrayed as crazy fundamental Christians. The TV propaganda men would always put these people who were clearly upper middle class and living in an upper middle class neighborhood into quagmires that even NAMs would find hard to put themselves in. At the end of the day some progressive solution was found and Christian values mocked.

John and Kate + 8 was clearly an attempted shot in the face of Whites, in particular prole whites. Here was some far easterner who somehow managed to assimilate into western society, speak coherent eEglish, wear fashionable high prole clothes (ed hardy), and get a prole pregnant. Proles tuned used this program to justify that their lives were more normal and stable than other proles.

HS, you should do a series of blog posts on how hard asians (men and women) try to be white, like the John guy above. I found this phenomenon particularly interesting in the NY metropolitan area.

"The Duggars are portrayed as redneck Christian idiots. But, there is no mention of self sufficiency, lack of welfare, and no mention of handouts. Clearly this show is racist and makes blacks look bad."

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The Duggars are definitely getting handouts though. The Discovery Channel and various advertisers pay for and stock and up their house. They also receive church donations. How else do you think a moderately successful real estate agent is able to to afford 19 kids and a nice house?

If making money is considered getting donations, then doesn't that make about a majority of workers and people who do Reality TV, etc on welfare? That is idiotic and incorrect.

Bill seems to be a white liberal that HATES, HATES, HATES those "wrong white people" and instead diverts everything that plagues the black community (e.g. crime, illegitimacy, single motherhood, low educational outcomes) and blames it on religious whites.

"The Duggars are definitely getting handouts though. The Discovery Channel and various advertisers pay for and stock and up their house."

That's not a handout. That's their *job*...

"The Duggars are definitely getting handouts though. The Discovery Channel and various advertisers pay for and stock and up their house. They also receive church donations. How else do you think a moderately successful real estate agent is able to to afford 19 kids and a nice house?"

Your hypothetical fantasy is still better then welfare or state subsidies. But, unfortunately your hypothetical fantasy is not the true. The truth is that apparently they have commercial real estate and derive rental income (value transference) along with a reality TV income.

I guess the diversity of shaniqua and her 10 kids is not telegenic enough for a reality TV contract. That's Racist, the great intellectual TV executives should be educating us on diversity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/19_Kids_and_Counting

Mr. Duggar is a former state legislator. I seriously doubt his family was on welfare before the show.

The Duggars probably have decent pre-show income and are obviously not on the dole, but there is no way they could comfortably afford 19 kids without being famous for having 19 kids.

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