Don't shop on Thanksgiving

It's very prole.

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In case it wasn't clear, I was talking about retail stores that open at 8 PM or even earlier on Thanksgiving. This is disgusting.

Of course there's nothing wrong with shopping online. Ordering something online doesn't mean that people have to be at work. The order just gets saved to a database, and some prole worker will fulfill the order on Friday. Without Thanksgiving web surfing, there wouldn't be this blog post and there wouldn't be any comments.

Shopping on Black Friday also seems sort of prole, as the extreme glorification of materialism is always low class, but Thursday evening shopping is that much worse.

Comments

[Jake]

Is there anything wrong with doing something just because it is prole?

People who go out of their way to avoid having any interests or mannerisms that might be seen as slightly prole come across as very pretentious.

[dbp]

First the flippant answer: Well, if you are a prole then it is exactly the correct thing to do.

Actually I am of two minds about shopping on holidays. 1. (The Dominant idea) I assume most people would rather be with friends and family on days like Thanksgiving. If everybody refused to shop today then their employers would not force them to come in and run the store today. 2. There are certainly people who would like to get time and a half and so if nobody shopped then they could not get that extra pay.

[Just Speculating]

Ha! What about Black Friday? I think shopping on Black Friday is a lot more prolish than Thanksgiving day. The insane crowds, not to mention Proles scrambling to buy tacky items, is enough for any intelligent person to stay away.

HS, I'm sure you know many SWPLs in NYC will be going to the Apple Store the day after. At least it's HBD friendly, unlike Worse Buy with its throngs of NAMs and Proles.

[S_McCoy]

Wouldn't this be something the proles do that is not prolish? they're looking for bargains and being future oriented, of course the money they save will be spent on beer and whatever food products they stuff down their prole piehole but for a moment they have transcended their nature. I'll be there to watch the fights that inevitably breakout.

[chesswife]

Does that include online shopping?

I'd have to agree that black friday shopping, especially the early morning lines, are far more tacky and prolish than thanksgiving shopping or movie going. Those 3AM lines are akin to extreme couponing (shudder).

[Just Speculating]

"Does that include online shopping?"

No, because SWPLs are adamant about shopping online; it's easy and anonymous.

My question would be food shopping and the last minute wine browsing.

[chesswife]

"My question would be food shopping and the last minute wine browsing."

I was wondering the same thing... what to do when you're out of organic sage at the last minute.

[superdestroyer]

HS,

Many blue collar people actually have to work on Friday unlike the white collars of the world. Why not get some shopping while off work.

Also, if someone is sitting at home all day, they probably get bored. What is the difference of going to a Wal-Mart supercenter versus going to the movies and seeing Red Dawn.

[Interesting]

OT:

Table101: Abortions by Race, 1990-2007

http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/2012/tables/12s0101.pdf

Blacks are ~13% of the population, but pretty consistently account for 37% of all abortions over this time period. The black abortion rate per 1,000 women is triple (or more) the white rate. Blacks are too dumb to use cheap, effective, and readily available birth control. Republicans should shut up about this issue because it is reducing the future number of Democratic voters (as well as criminals, affirmative action beneficiaries, and welfare recipients).

[E. Rekshun]

How many proles and NAMs will get trampled to death while shopping on Black Friday this year?

Hhhmm, "Black" Friday, sounds suspicious.

By the way, many proles have been lined up outside Best Buy and other stores since Wed. AM.

[Just Speculating]

"Many blue collar people actually have to work on Friday unlike the white collars of the world. Why not get some shopping while off work".

The lower classes (NAMs & Proles) will fill the generic megastores tomorrow even if it means skipping lunch from work. The upper middle classes and the upper class will either shop at the very exquisite stores. But for them, it usually online and the wealthy are pretty much away for the holiday at Dark Harbor or the Hamptons.

[not too late]

Republicans should shut up about this issue because it is reducing the future number of Democratic voters (as well as criminals, affirmative action beneficiaries, and welfare recipients).

Posted by: Interesting | November 22, 2012 at 10:58 AM

Opposing abortion is a principled, not a pragmatic position. Results don't matter. To them it is like opposing genocide. You have to oppose it even if it would benefit you to ignore or promote it. Plenty of people here see problems with immigration of low performing people, but I don't see anyone advocating murderous genocide. If Planned Parenthood were promoting surgical sterilization and reducing certain populations that way, damned few people would bother to put any energy in to opposing it politically. Killing is different from preventing. Why is it pro abortion types don't try to compromise by promoting sterilizations? Do they have a principled reason to vigorously oppose sterilizations? Well? Because if they don't, then duh, it seems pretty obvious that is the way to go. If the Democrats were less pro-abortion, they would actually get more votes, because plenty of folks only vote Republican because of abortion, but almost no one only votes Democrat because of abortion. That is why the Democrats wanted to shift to birth control which is a winner from abortion which is a loser. Since birth control is already cheap and available, it took quite a concerted effort to contrive to make it an issue.

[Peter the Shark]

Shopping on Thanksgiving is a profoundly anti-conservative thing to do as well. Republicans who celebrate this sort of thing make me suspect that libertarians are basically the "prole values" wing of the Republican party.

[DaveinHackensack]

Prole or not, heading to Whole Foods to pick up a few last minute things.

Speaking of proles, how prole does this guy sound? ( http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/2/74e15464-2da3-11e2-9988-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2Cyoz1N6u ):

- Dropped out of high school to learn woodworking.

- Started his own business at 20 (and named it after himself).

No high school diploma, no college, prole, prole, prole.

[chesswife]

"Table101: Abortions by Race, 1990-2007"

Wow Mexicans have a very high breastfeeding rate!

Has abortion really prevented the flow of future-criminals and democrats into society (I know the freakonomics theory has been disputed)? My impression is that NAMs use abortion as a temporary form birth control, and sooner rather than later have a live birth.

I have a vague memory from Mary Gallagher's "The Abolition of Marriage" that the birth rate for single black mothers has remained consistent over the decades while the married black birth rate has plummeted.

[Alex]

"Has abortion really prevented the flow of future-criminals and democrats into society (I know the freakonomics theory has been disputed)? My impression is that NAMs use abortion as a temporary form birth control, and sooner rather than later have a live birth."

The guy who wrote Freakonomics is a fucking douchebag retard.

[anon]

"I have a vague memory from Mary Gallagher's "The Abolition of Marriage" that the birth rate for single black mothers has remained consistent over the decades while the married black birth rate has plummeted."

It might indeed be a trend, but this is an not apples-to-apples comparison as so many fewer opt to marry these days (and this is applicable to most, if not all, races).

[anonswpl]

Going Thanksgiving shopping is trashy, agreed.

Just curious but is it normal for me as someone who is basically 'SWPL' (as you guys call it) to not really consider prole (i.e., religious) 'liberals' as fellow learned progressives/SWPLs?

Sure they are good to count on vote for the Democrats (for the time being) but otherwise I can't really consider them part of the progressive coalition.

[shiva1008]

> People who go out of their way to avoid having any interests or mannerisms that might be seen as slightly prole come across as very pretentious.

It comes from a mindset and upbringing so you really don't have to go out of your way to do anything.

[Bilbo Baggins]

"Just curious but is it normal for me as someone who is basically 'SWPL' (as you guys call it) to not really consider prole (i.e., religious) 'liberals' as fellow learned progressives/SWPLs?"

You mean the 20-somethings who parrot liberal political views in liberal-arts classes and coffeehouses only to feel morally superior to those in the white-trash backgrounds they came from? You're right. Many of these people have IQs in the 100-120 range: high enough to understand arguments that professors make, but not high enough to counter them or come up with their own. Their prole parents and siblings usually have 90-100 IQs, it's just that they (the fake SWPLs) happened to get luckier than everyone else in their family when it came to genetics.

Real SWPLs don't actually believe in the redistribution BS and actually hate the 47% just as much as SWPL conservatives/Republicans (the kind who live in say, Newport Beach), but are too politically correct to express it explicitly. If Republicans were smart, they'd target them and 2nd or 3rd gen Asian-Americans (who have a similar culture and political views) for votes instead of Hispanics and prole whites.

[Just Speculating]

"Real SWPLs don't actually believe in the redistribution BS...If Republicans were smart, they'd target them and 2nd or 3rd gen Asian-Americans (who have a similar culture and political views) for votes instead of Hispanics and prole whites".

Most Republicans never attended Ivy League institutions or any of the tier one schools. This is the heart of the problem and it could be the reason as to why they are NOT SMART. And this is another reason why they wouldn't identify with Asians and Jews. Further, Asians and Jews tend to live in Blue States, notably California and New York.

You could also make the same argument as to why they should target the younger generation of Jews who are more conservative, yet just as much Ivy League material than the previous generations.

[RandyB]

There's a column by a gay activist on The Washington Post's "On Faith" blog, about the lack of condemnation from allegedly pro-family organizations about turning Thanksgiving into a work day:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/guest-voices/post/where-are-so-called-family-organizations-on-black-friday-not-where-they-should-be/2012/11/23/ec409dd8-3584-11e2-9cfa-e41bac906cc9_blog.html

[Anonymouse]

"If the Democrats were less pro-abortion, they would actually get more votes, because plenty of folks only vote Republican because of abortion, but almost no one only votes Democrat because of abortion. "

I don't think this is true. What demographic votes Republican over the issue of abortion? Catholic priests or nuns who otherwise favor socialism-lite? That's the only possibility I can think of, and that is a really small category.

[AllanF]

Yes, nothing more prole than Thanksgiving gift shopping. Like British soccer hooligans it's even developed it's own riot sub-culture.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8O6IMYSSs7c&feature=player_embedded

[logik]

I guess I'm a prole then. I went to Sears yesterday because quite frankly, a 50" Toshiba LED TV for $300 is too good of a deal to pass up. I also go to observe the proles in their natural habitat (you've gotta admit, they're quite entertaining) and to watch the fights that break out when people try to cut the line. I got there around 4 pm and I was about 20th in line. A couple of observations:
- 15th or so in line was a guy with an epic mullet and his fat trailer trash wife. They were there only to buy a Proscan DVD Player for $10. The regular price of this DVD Player is $30. Is it really worth it for these people to spend 5 hours waiting in line just to save $20 on a DVD Player?
- Out of the 20 people in line in front of me, about half of them would smoke a cigarette every half hour. I couldn't help but think if these people would just quit smoking for only a couple of months, they would be able to pay full price for everything they were buying, and not have to wait hours in line for it too.

[DaveinHackensack]

Also worth considering that some of the people shopping on Thanksgiving are poor people who hope to make a small profit by reselling stuff on Ebay or Craig's List.

[Raoul Duke]

Article in the WSJ about how nearly one-third of all "deals" on Black Friday really aren't.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324851704578133530559716180.html

[E. Rekshun]

2 shot at Walmart in Tallahassee

The Associated Press
Investigators believe a disagreement over a parking space led to two people being shot and wounded outside a Tallahassee Walmart.

Tallahassee is 35% black. You be the judge.
http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/12/1270600.html

[nobody]

What exactly is wrong with being "prole"? Please make a long and descriptive blog post about it if you can.