She's pretty in the same way that almost all healthy, non-fat, white 20-something chicks are. But not really "hot". Two skinny, too masculine/strong of a chin.
People often confuse "attractive" or "not a disgusting fat tub of lard" with "hot". manjaw and giraffe neck. also a little horsey. if i saw her in public i wouldn't look twice. she'll definitely snag a desperate lick-spittle beta to pedestal her but the alphas she craves (like daddy) get much better.
She looks good but not so much in that first picture. However anyone claiming she isn't attractive or "hot" has had their mind warped by years of porn. Porn standards are way over the top.
This just further supports my theory that people in the upper classes are more attractive than average. Go to the affluent part of town and most people (especially the women) are often 7+ in looks. Is it nature or nurture however that's the question. With effort most people can look good though there is a genetic cap.
She is HOT.. reasons? ..natural, cute and physically appealing in modest wear. All of which are life long traits!
..why are all the Republican's daughters so physically beautiful?!
Huntsman's daughters, Meghan McCain, Bush twins... etc.
(Note to HS).. you said serving in the military brings a person down in status?! ..WTF, I bet you would not have the courage to say it to his 60 year old face(Petraeus).
The lowest status in this world is occupied by COWARDS. (nothing personal)
Whoever took the hair-across-the-face photo is either really damn good, or got lucky. The other two are more representative and show a decent enough looking girl in her prime. She is easily within one standard deviation of the young female population looks wise. No fault in that.
"However anyone claiming she isn't attractive or 'hot' has had their mind warped by years of porn. Porn standards are way over the top."
That's an interesting comment, because elsewhere on the net I've heard prudes and anti-porn crusaders (read: conservatives) claiming that "most girls in porn aren't hot" many times over. So which is it? And way over the top for what? Are you suggesting that people in the business of marketing their appearance should be uglier? I agree with the other commenters that the biggest thing she's got going for herself is her youthfulness.
Off-topic (sorry, but it is tiring to read the neckbeards criticize a pretty woman for having a "man jaw"), it looks like your value creation vs transference concept is getting traction:
nope. rumour-sized manjaw. you know what a hot girl looks like? how about those two broads from that show "the b in apt 23"? come on men, have some standards ferkrissakes.
"This just further supports my theory that people in the upper classes are more attractive than average. Go to the affluent part of town and most people (especially the women) are often 7+ in looks. Is it nature or nurture however that's the question. With effort most people can look good though there is a genetic cap".
The West Coast has a dearth of good looking women compared here to the Northeast. From my observations, prolish women here in NY look a lot better than many of the pasty girls in Northern California and the sun baked bitches in Southern California. I say it's both, climate (nature) and diet (nurture) are the 2 main driving factors. I did once meet an attractive girl in California, and it turns out she was a transplant originally from NY.
"I've heard prudes and anti-porn crusaders (read: conservatives) claiming that "most girls in porn aren't hot" many times over. So which is it?" - Allerious
Half Sigma's loser theory of human behavior at play. "A great deal of human behavior can be explained by people trying to convince themselves that they are not losers." In other words these dudes could never score with hot women like that so they disparage them to feel better all while rubbing one out good.
"And way over the top for what? Are you suggesting that people in the business of marketing their appearance should be uglier?"
There is something artificial about porn stars. They look too good and sometimes fake. More natural looking women who are hot but "normal" can also be desired. Amateur porn exists for a reason. Girls Gone Wild is a popular example of that market.
This is one of those situations in which "two things can be true at once." Having looked at much of the porn roster on IAFD, I think it's true that most of the girls aren't hot, a useful standard being the USC/UCLA circa 1980. At the same time, the percentage of hot chicks is higher than the famous Seinfeld "dateability" estimate of 5%.
@chesswife,
It amazes me that a woman would view Daniel Craig as an outstanding example of sexiness. You can see 20 guys like him at almost any suburban country club.
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"There is something artificial about porn stars. They look too good and sometimes fake."
For Christ's sakes, don't get me started.
Posted by: Peter | November 17, 2012 at 05:50 PM
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Nobody wants to get you started. You're the one constantly sharing with everyone your love of women's pubic hair.
Nobody cares, creepy. Feel free to shut up about it.
Nobody is saying she isn't hot to feel better about themselves, they are saying she isn't hot cause she just isn't.
Now granted, I'm sure she looks better in person and she is young, white and trim so she has some things going for her but for a 20 something, white, American girl she is pretty plain.
Her only major flaw is manjaw. Otherwise she looks pretty bangable thanks to a good body. She's at least a 7 and would be a solid 8 with a less pronounced jawline.
Haha I love that about Peter because I know I can count on it.
I don't know Siggy, I see women who sort of look like this all the time. Certainly not a beast but not hot(see young and even mature Stephanie Seymour for good looking woman same coloring).
Honey do your eyes even work??? Daniel Craig really? That guy has a parole face if I ever seen one . Looks like he goes to bars , not to drink but to fight.
Now what's the name of the guy from Thor? Chris something i think. Yea that big muscular long haired Viking looking guy, now that's what a good looking blonde man looks like.
Why is it a female columnist who is claiming that she is hot? So women are supposed to be the authority now on which women are attractive? Typical SWPL over-exaggeration... Look at MEEEE! Look at MEEEEEE!
I was prepared to give a "not hot" verdict and level some criticism of her jaw, weight, etc based on the picture on that page. It's horrid. But I watched a Youtube video of her and think it was just a bad picture. Her weight was fine and though she does have a strong jaw its not as strong as the picture suggests. She's attractive and I'd probably give her an "8". Had I relied on the picture alone I would have given her a "5". That's why video is better than still shots. I would, however, advise people to watch her video with the sound off. She needs some tough love from my man Simon Cowell. ಠ_ಠ
"why are all the Republican's daughters so physically beautiful?!"
The average conservative woman is considerably more attractive than the average liberal woman. It stands to reason their daughters would be more attractive.
"this is what you're getting in 40 years"
The woman who plays the Phyllis character on "The Office" used to be an NFL cheerleader.
"You're [sic] heroic crusade is the last best hope for Western civilization. God speed..."
I'm not alone in my preferences. Guess Her Muff allows viewers to rate the women on a scale of one to five stars. It used to be that the relatively few women who were in their natural states invariably would get low ratings, but today that's not always the case.
I'll give Daniel Craig props on his physique. I doubt many women would notice him otherwise. Whether man or woman, one's body has as much to do with being attractive as one's face.
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"I'm not alone in my preferences." -- Peter
Indeed you are not. I personally prefer a manicured lawn to either a plucked chicken or stubble.
Daniel Craig is exactly the type of guy older women prefer. A dude with brawn and style. Most older guys are NOTHING like that. Chris Hemsworth is the kind of guy younger women want.
The book has been lampooned for it's name ever since the scandal broke. There was also some video of Broadwell defending her portrayal of David Petraeus against accusations that it was fawning. She said Petraeus embodies the values of success, discipline, and achievement. She went onto to say "I'm not in love with him or anything". What a laugh Paula you slut.
No she isn't...
Posted by: soren | November 16, 2012 at 05:03 PM
Hairless. God damn it.
Posted by: Peter | November 16, 2012 at 05:37 PM
not hot at all.
Posted by: Otis the Sweaty | November 16, 2012 at 05:39 PM
She's pretty in the same way that almost all healthy, non-fat, white 20-something chicks are. But not really "hot". Two skinny, too masculine/strong of a chin.
Posted by: Juan McSame | November 16, 2012 at 06:27 PM
troll post
Posted by: anonymous | November 16, 2012 at 06:46 PM
I don't wanna sound like the 'point elbows 3/10 would not bang' kinda guy.
BUT..
She's just young and fit, that's all she has going for her.
http://dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Bobbie-Allen-stairs-e1352913283965.jpg
That face is not hot. Just young.
Posted by: Kaz | November 16, 2012 at 06:47 PM
People often confuse "attractive" or "not a disgusting fat tub of lard" with "hot". manjaw and giraffe neck. also a little horsey. if i saw her in public i wouldn't look twice. she'll definitely snag a desperate lick-spittle beta to pedestal her but the alphas she craves (like daddy) get much better.
Posted by: James McKeane | November 16, 2012 at 07:07 PM
man jaw
Posted by: dougal | November 16, 2012 at 07:22 PM
She looks good but not so much in that first picture. However anyone claiming she isn't attractive or "hot" has had their mind warped by years of porn. Porn standards are way over the top.
Posted by: Conquistador | November 16, 2012 at 07:24 PM
This just further supports my theory that people in the upper classes are more attractive than average. Go to the affluent part of town and most people (especially the women) are often 7+ in looks. Is it nature or nurture however that's the question. With effort most people can look good though there is a genetic cap.
Posted by: Conquistador | November 16, 2012 at 07:33 PM
I told you this scandal will yield months of blog material.
Posted by: The Undiscovered Jew | November 16, 2012 at 08:05 PM
Not that hot. Huge jaw. Small rack. Skin already leathery from excessive tanning.
Posted by: Zorkmid | November 16, 2012 at 09:02 PM
She has her daddy's chin, which looks very good on a general, but is kind of strange looking on a girl.
Posted by: Glek | November 16, 2012 at 09:53 PM
She is HOT.. reasons? ..natural, cute and physically appealing in modest wear. All of which are life long traits!
..why are all the Republican's daughters so physically beautiful?!
Huntsman's daughters, Meghan McCain, Bush twins... etc.
(Note to HS).. you said serving in the military brings a person down in status?! ..WTF, I bet you would not have the courage to say it to his 60 year old face(Petraeus).
The lowest status in this world is occupied by COWARDS. (nothing personal)
Posted by: Rise of Rome | November 16, 2012 at 10:22 PM
Meh. I don't think so.
Posted by: sestamibi | November 16, 2012 at 10:48 PM
Aren't you very near to the metropolis of attractive young women NYC? Cute, attractive, young, yes. Hot..no. You probably meant attractive.
Posted by: L | November 17, 2012 at 06:38 AM
Whoever took the hair-across-the-face photo is either really damn good, or got lucky. The other two are more representative and show a decent enough looking girl in her prime. She is easily within one standard deviation of the young female population looks wise. No fault in that.
Posted by: Chris | November 17, 2012 at 06:47 AM
"However anyone claiming she isn't attractive or 'hot' has had their mind warped by years of porn. Porn standards are way over the top."
That's an interesting comment, because elsewhere on the net I've heard prudes and anti-porn crusaders (read: conservatives) claiming that "most girls in porn aren't hot" many times over. So which is it? And way over the top for what? Are you suggesting that people in the business of marketing their appearance should be uglier? I agree with the other commenters that the biggest thing she's got going for herself is her youthfulness.
Posted by: Allerious | November 17, 2012 at 07:33 AM
Wow you guys are picky. I assume you all look like Daniel Craig to have such exacting standards?
Posted by: chesswife | November 17, 2012 at 07:53 AM
Here is the YOUNGER Kathy Allen (wife of the general).
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/11/13/article-2232305-160164D8000005DC-691_306x423.jpg
You will note she looks a lot like Bobbie.
Here is Kathy Allen now. If you like Bobbie, this is what you're getting in 40 years:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/11/13/article-2232305-1601B385000005DC-245_634x405.jpg
Posted by: JP | November 17, 2012 at 09:07 AM
Off-topic (sorry, but it is tiring to read the neckbeards criticize a pretty woman for having a "man jaw"), it looks like your value creation vs transference concept is getting traction:
http://www.linkedin.com/today/post/article/20121112204533-16553-value-creation-vs-value-capture-musings-on-the-new-economy
Posted by: Fargoose | November 17, 2012 at 11:35 AM
nope. rumour-sized manjaw. you know what a hot girl looks like? how about those two broads from that show "the b in apt 23"? come on men, have some standards ferkrissakes.
Posted by: tojawornottojaw | November 17, 2012 at 11:46 AM
"This just further supports my theory that people in the upper classes are more attractive than average. Go to the affluent part of town and most people (especially the women) are often 7+ in looks. Is it nature or nurture however that's the question. With effort most people can look good though there is a genetic cap".
The West Coast has a dearth of good looking women compared here to the Northeast. From my observations, prolish women here in NY look a lot better than many of the pasty girls in Northern California and the sun baked bitches in Southern California. I say it's both, climate (nature) and diet (nurture) are the 2 main driving factors. I did once meet an attractive girl in California, and it turns out she was a transplant originally from NY.
Posted by: Just Speculating | November 17, 2012 at 01:44 PM
"I've heard prudes and anti-porn crusaders (read: conservatives) claiming that "most girls in porn aren't hot" many times over. So which is it?" - Allerious
Half Sigma's loser theory of human behavior at play. "A great deal of human behavior can be explained by people trying to convince themselves that they are not losers." In other words these dudes could never score with hot women like that so they disparage them to feel better all while rubbing one out good.
"And way over the top for what? Are you suggesting that people in the business of marketing their appearance should be uglier?"
There is something artificial about porn stars. They look too good and sometimes fake. More natural looking women who are hot but "normal" can also be desired. Amateur porn exists for a reason. Girls Gone Wild is a popular example of that market.
Posted by: Conquistador | November 17, 2012 at 03:25 PM
@allerious:
This is one of those situations in which "two things can be true at once." Having looked at much of the porn roster on IAFD, I think it's true that most of the girls aren't hot, a useful standard being the USC/UCLA circa 1980. At the same time, the percentage of hot chicks is higher than the famous Seinfeld "dateability" estimate of 5%.
@chesswife,
It amazes me that a woman would view Daniel Craig as an outstanding example of sexiness. You can see 20 guys like him at almost any suburban country club.
Posted by: sid storch | November 17, 2012 at 04:51 PM
"There is something artificial about porn stars. They look too good and sometimes fake."
For Christ's sakes, don't get me started.
Posted by: Peter | November 17, 2012 at 05:50 PM
Siggie, Siggie, Siggie.
By now you should know that every HBD blog contributor is banging 3-4 supermodels on alternating nights. Sometimes at the same damn time.
Therefore, you will only be met with utter scorn and derision when talking positively about any woman's looks.
Posted by: Camlost | November 17, 2012 at 08:24 PM
Not hot. Mediocre bag of bones.
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"There is something artificial about porn stars. They look too good and sometimes fake."
For Christ's sakes, don't get me started.
Posted by: Peter | November 17, 2012 at 05:50 PM
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Nobody wants to get you started. You're the one constantly sharing with everyone your love of women's pubic hair.
Nobody cares, creepy. Feel free to shut up about it.
Posted by: Rifleman | November 17, 2012 at 08:46 PM
Nobody is saying she isn't hot to feel better about themselves, they are saying she isn't hot cause she just isn't.
Now granted, I'm sure she looks better in person and she is young, white and trim so she has some things going for her but for a 20 something, white, American girl she is pretty plain.
Posted by: Otis the Sweaty | November 17, 2012 at 09:16 PM
"It amazes me that a woman would view Daniel Craig as an outstanding example of sexiness."
Daniel Craig looks like Vlad Putin.
Posted by: Sanjuro | November 17, 2012 at 09:38 PM
"For Christ's sakes, don't get me started.
Posted by: Peter | November 17, 2012 at 05:50 PM"
You're heroic crusade is the last best hope for Western civilization. God speed...
Posted by: The Undiscovered Jew | November 17, 2012 at 10:32 PM
Her only major flaw is manjaw. Otherwise she looks pretty bangable thanks to a good body. She's at least a 7 and would be a solid 8 with a less pronounced jawline.
Posted by: The Undiscovered Jew | November 17, 2012 at 10:34 PM
@rifelman
Haha I love that about Peter because I know I can count on it.
I don't know Siggy, I see women who sort of look like this all the time. Certainly not a beast but not hot(see young and even mature Stephanie Seymour for good looking woman same coloring).
Posted by: Chic Noir | November 18, 2012 at 02:40 AM
@chesswife-
Honey do your eyes even work??? Daniel Craig really? That guy has a parole face if I ever seen one . Looks like he goes to bars , not to drink but to fight.
Now what's the name of the guy from Thor? Chris something i think. Yea that big muscular long haired Viking looking guy, now that's what a good looking blonde man looks like.
Posted by: Chic Noir | November 18, 2012 at 02:47 AM
Why is it a female columnist who is claiming that she is hot? So women are supposed to be the authority now on which women are attractive? Typical SWPL over-exaggeration... Look at MEEEE! Look at MEEEEEE!
Posted by: shiva1008 | November 18, 2012 at 03:59 AM
I was prepared to give a "not hot" verdict and level some criticism of her jaw, weight, etc based on the picture on that page. It's horrid. But I watched a Youtube video of her and think it was just a bad picture. Her weight was fine and though she does have a strong jaw its not as strong as the picture suggests. She's attractive and I'd probably give her an "8". Had I relied on the picture alone I would have given her a "5". That's why video is better than still shots. I would, however, advise people to watch her video with the sound off. She needs some tough love from my man Simon Cowell. ಠ_ಠ
www.youtube.com/watch?v=6obGQaqIcOQ
Posted by: destructure | November 18, 2012 at 05:06 AM
"20 guys like him at almost any suburban country club"
But they're not wielding a gun with an icy glare!
All while keeping their suit perfectly pressed.
Posted by: chesswife | November 18, 2012 at 07:42 AM
"hot" should be reserved for women who are truly outstanding - not just passable.
Posted by: shiva1008 | November 18, 2012 at 07:45 AM
"why are all the Republican's daughters so physically beautiful?!"
The average conservative woman is considerably more attractive than the average liberal woman. It stands to reason their daughters would be more attractive.
"this is what you're getting in 40 years"
The woman who plays the Phyllis character on "The Office" used to be an NFL cheerleader.
Posted by: J1 | November 18, 2012 at 09:50 AM
"You're [sic] heroic crusade is the last best hope for Western civilization. God speed..."
I'm not alone in my preferences. Guess Her Muff allows viewers to rate the women on a scale of one to five stars. It used to be that the relatively few women who were in their natural states invariably would get low ratings, but today that's not always the case.
Posted by: Peter | November 18, 2012 at 10:03 AM
"It amazes me that a woman would view Daniel Craig as an outstanding example of sexiness."
Daniel Craig looks like Vlad Putin.
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When I first saw him I thought he looked like he could be the head of Putin's bodyguards.
James Bond? No way.
He looks like one of the James Bond villain's henchmen.
Posted by: Rifleman | November 18, 2012 at 01:22 PM
@destructure
I stand corrected...She's hot.
The kind of girl the media loves to put on the spot light, and who guys would fight for.
Posted by: L | November 18, 2012 at 02:18 PM
Could Paula Broadwell's biography on Gen. Patraeus, "All In," actually be some kind of sexual double entendre, as in "is it all in?"
Posted by: E. Rekshun | November 18, 2012 at 04:14 PM
@ chesswife
I'll give Daniel Craig props on his physique. I doubt many women would notice him otherwise. Whether man or woman, one's body has as much to do with being attractive as one's face.
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"I'm not alone in my preferences." -- Peter
Indeed you are not. I personally prefer a manicured lawn to either a plucked chicken or stubble.
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@ E. Rekshun
Check out the parody book cover.
http://www.businessinsider.com/abc-news-denver-all-up-in-my-snatch-2012-11
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@ L
I didn't say she was "hot". I said she's attractive and I'd probably give her an "8".
Posted by: destructure | November 18, 2012 at 07:47 PM
Daniel Craig is exactly the type of guy older women prefer. A dude with brawn and style. Most older guys are NOTHING like that. Chris Hemsworth is the kind of guy younger women want.
Posted by: Conquistador | November 18, 2012 at 10:14 PM
@ E. Rekshun
The book has been lampooned for it's name ever since the scandal broke. There was also some video of Broadwell defending her portrayal of David Petraeus against accusations that it was fawning. She said Petraeus embodies the values of success, discipline, and achievement. She went onto to say "I'm not in love with him or anything". What a laugh Paula you slut.
Posted by: Conquistador | November 18, 2012 at 10:25 PM
"He looks like one of the James Bond villain's henchmen."
Casting against type. It's a risk, but when it works, it works pretty well. Craig makes a great James Bond because he looks like a bad guy.
Posted by: DaveinHackensack | November 18, 2012 at 10:53 PM
The tragedy (to be fixed with genetic engineering) is that alpha men tend to have daughters with overly big jaws. Rumor Willis comes to mind.
Posted by: Randall Parker | November 19, 2012 at 12:46 AM