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December 01, 2012

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" ... Jews have figured out that's crappy advice for 21st century America. "

Crappy advice for an in group (which as the article points out Jews now are) perhaps, maybe not for an out group like Asians (or like Jews used to be). You think there would be more Asians admitted if they didn't study as hard? Even with the quota Asians (like Jews before them) are being admitted at a greater rate than their proportion of the population.

I suppose that that's one view (that Jewish parents have figured out the system).

The other is that Jews control the levers of power, be it in academia, government, corporations, non-profits, and the media.

This is why Jews are liberals. Liberalism gives power to academia, government, corporations, non-profits, and the media, all of which are dominated by Jews.

Why should it surprise anyone that Jews benefit from the institutions that they dominate?

And Asians are not the ethnic group most discriminated against by these institutions, white conservatives are.

"The other is that Jews control the levers of power, be it in academia, government, corporations, non-profits, and the media."

This is essentially Unz's theory, which has somehow been lost on everyone who's reviewed the article.

An ever-increasing percentage of high school aged Jews are Orthodox or Hasidic, and as such are less likely to be applying to prestigious colleges.

It is in the Jews best interest to not identify religiously, because they will be tucked into the 75% white pool in the top schools. If they do, there actually still is a direct cap on their enrollment. Future Asian-White mixes will be smarter to identify just as White as well.

The article shows much more anti-white Christian discrimination than it does anti-Asian discrimination. Yet pretty much every mainstream writer that links to this article only highlights the anti-Asian discrimination. Either they stopped reading after the first half or they're willfully blind.

Would've expected more honesty from HS.

And it's pretty funny that you seem to believe Jewish overrepresentation is partly as a result of Jews being good at sports. What anecdotal, empirical, or common sense evidence do we have of that?

HS - you are not really sure what the article is about? the article is either specious pseudo science or a very dangerous article.

No half, it is not just Jews no longer doing math Olympiad/westighouse science activities. Their share of top PSAT scores has cratered compared to their population share, indicating they are doing worse on high stakes and important standardized tests.

" because everyone in the elite knows that STEM is for Asians and middle-class kids."

No... I went to a HYP undergrad school in the time period where I could see the pre and post 2008 world. Before the crisis, i-banking and consulting jobs were handed out to most everyone about the 40 th percentile who wanted one. Others went to medical school, or graduate school. Contra Half Sigma's obsession with big law, law school was for under-performers or public interest types.

Now, business hiring is much more competitive, and increasingly emphasizes STEM degrees... The most popular, prestigious major at Harvard and Princeton is now computer science. Start-ups and Venture Capital funding are the cool, prestigious fields, given the erosion of banking bonuses and job security. Even top 10 law schools are seen as a scam. Last year alone a bunch of HYP freshman dropped out to be "Theil Fellows".

Now, the Web 2.0 bubble will eventually pop, but your perception of the current situation is inaccurate: STEM is ascendant even in HYP.

I agree with the other commenters. It's pretty obvious what the article is about.

"An ever-increasing percentage of high school aged Jews are Orthodox or Hasidic, and as such are less likely to be applying to prestigious colleges."

Peter, you're missing the crux of Unz's article. Jews are still found in large numbers at Ivies; in fact, too large. Compared to their proportion in the general population at Ivy-level IQs, they are disproportionately represented among Ivy students, and rural, white christians are underrepresented. If Unz's dat and analysis are correct, there is systemic Ivy admissions boards discrimination against gentile whites.

@ Zoob,

I would agree that it is not a good sign that PSAT scores have fallen, but is the PSAT really an important and high-stakes test? Colleges only see the results indirectly, if an applicant becomes a recognized National Merit Semi-Finalist or Finalist. In the latter case, the award from the National Merit Scholarship Corporation is fairly small. Some state schools will pile on additional scholarship money for Semi-Finalists and Finalists, but if one is not heading to those schools, the benefit is fairly minor. A wiseacre student who knows this might not put much effort into the PSAT.

Peter already mentioned the increased share of ultra-Orthodox children among the later birth cohorts. A lot of those kids are poorly prepared for the PSAT or SAT by their religion-dominated educations, although many do not plan to attend secular college. Among secular Jews, children born to intermarried parents are more common in the born after 1990 cohort. If the intermarriage has not been assortative for intelligence, then a decline in academic performance might be expected. Assimilation to dysfunctional societal norms likely also plays a role.

The Ron Unz article is amazing. It took a huge amount of research to put it together, and he couldn't approach the problem directly. He had to do crazy things like "last-name analysis" to get a reasonably accurate picture of what is going on.

At the end of the LONG article, he makes some suggestions about how to make top schools "look like America" by introducing random admission policies. I've seen worse ideas, but it distracts a bit from the first three quarters of the article.

Overall, his approach was brilliant. By focusing on anti-Asian admission policies, he guaranteed an audience for the piece among people who might otherwise dismiss what he has to say in the second half of the article.

If you're not up to reading the whole thing, it's worth looking at all the graphs.

Have to agree with HAR. If a small ethnic group is 2-3x overrepresented, ok, they're smart and know how to work the system, mazel tov. If they're an order of magnitude overrepresented, seriously? Bad sportsmanship. Never run up the score. People are going to notice and start clamoring for change.

Or if we're not welcome in the Ivy League, could they at least leave us alone to continue innovating and making money in the oil and gas industry, instead of trying to crush it at every opportunity?

Less Jews going into the sciences? A most unfortunate development. Minds such as Von Neumann, Einstein, and Feynman are representative of a level of thought which Asians have not yet demonstrated in significant measure. I can still see genius level Jews doing high level math and physics, while those with simply high intelligence might avoid STEM (incidentally, an acronym I feel at times uncomfortable with: an accomplished mathematician or physicist, at perhaps Harvard or Cambridge, has more status than an engineer in a cubicle).

"Now, business hiring is much more competitive, and increasingly emphasizes STEM degrees... The most popular, prestigious major at Harvard and Princeton is now computer science. Start-ups and Venture Capital funding are the cool, prestigious fields, given the erosion of banking bonuses and job security. Even top 10 law schools are seen as a scam. Last year alone a bunch of HYP freshman dropped out to be "Theil Fellows".

Now, the Web 2.0 bubble will eventually pop, but your perception of the current situation is inaccurate: STEM is ascendant even in HYP."

I was a cell-molecular biology major, and I find it dubious that my specific field has experienced a surge in prestige among the Ivies. I can grant that only fields related to computer science and venture capital benefited from increased stature, but I do not see lucrative opportunities for STEM majors in general, except medical school. Or perhaps a biology STEM degree at an Ivy merely signals the general intelligence, "scientific mindedness", and personality traits attractive to high-end venture capital.

STEM is for nerds and geeks. Everyone knows that, including the STEM people.

Jews don't do as well in the PSAT as they used to because of (1) intermarriage and (2) it's just not that important. It's taken early in junior year. Asian kids probably studied months for it. Most white (including Jewish) kids were playing sports instead.

The SAT is the important test. I bet Jews step it up for that one.

"I would agree that it is not a good sign that PSAT scores have fallen, but is the PSAT really an important and high-stakes test? Colleges only see the results indirectly, if an applicant becomes a recognized National Merit Semi-Finalist or Finalist. In the latter case, the award from the National Merit Scholarship Corporation is fairly small. Some state schools will pile on additional scholarship money for Semi-Finalists and Finalists, but if one is not heading to those schools, the benefit is fairly minor. A wiseacre student who knows this might not put much effort into the PSAT."

I don't accept this reasoning since the PSAT is a norm-referenced test. Even if we assume that Jews do not put in any significant effort in the PSAT since it is not a high-stakes test and that putting in significant effort would produce a positive effect on PSAT scores, it does not follow that the relative performance of Jews would fall, since other groups may possess similar attitudes that detrimentally affect performance. Although, in this case, some group that did study for it would have then have a relative advantage. The PSAT would still retain its g-loading (and its heavy verbal weighting) even if the students have a lackadaisical attitude when confronting it as the PSAT would still retain its ability to capture innate aptitudes.


"STEM is for nerds and geeks" = Asians and other outcasts.

Many Jews aren't into STEM anymore because of assimilation and acceptance.

I don't see Asians being fully accepted into American society, at least their men will never be, for another decade to come.

"HS - you are not really sure what the article is about? the article is either specious pseudo science or a very dangerous article."

Unz is lying because he's counting partial Jews with full Jews and comparing their numbers to the overall population of full Jews.

The Jewish Ivy League numbers are inflated by half-Jews who identify as Jewish. In 2000-2001, a survey of young Jews revealed almost half of self-identifying Jews in college were half Jewish. As of today, an outright majority of Jewish students are half-Jewish. While 2.5% of white Americans are Jewish, another 2.5% have enough Jewish ancestry to qualify for Israeli citizenship. And the percentage of young white Americans with at least some Jewish ancestry is likely higher than 5% because intermarriage is more likely among younger Jewish age cohorts.

http://www.hillel.org/about/news/2004/jan/20040121_involved.htm

The NJPS data reveal that the college-age Jewish population is almost evenly split between those who have two Jewish parents (48 percent) and those who have only one Jewish parent (45 percent). Students with two Jewish parents tend to be more religiously observant and Jewishly connected than those with only one Jewish parent. For example, 80 percent of those with two Jewish parents felt very positive about being Jewish compared to 65 percent among those with one Jewish parent. Both groups demonstrated an interest in Jewish studies, with 43 percent of those with two Jewish parents and 24 percent of those with one Jewish parent taking at least one Jewish studies course during their time in college.

"If a small ethnic group is 2-3x overrepresented, ok, they're smart and know how to work the system, mazel tov. If they're an order of magnitude overrepresented, seriously? Bad sportsmanship."

Unz is lying because he's counting half-Jews as fully Jewish. A majority of self identifying Jews at the Ivys have one gentile parent:

http://www.hillel.org/about/news/2004/jan/20040121_involved.htm

The NJPS data reveal that the college-age Jewish population is almost evenly split between those who have two Jewish parents (48 percent) and those who have only one Jewish parent (45 percent). Students with two Jewish parents tend to be more religiously observant and Jewishly connected than those with only one Jewish parent. For example, 80 percent of those with two Jewish parents felt very positive about being Jewish compared to 65 percent among those with one Jewish parent. Both groups demonstrated an interest in Jewish studies, with 43 percent of those with two Jewish parents and 24 percent of those with one Jewish parent taking at least one Jewish studies course during their time in college.

"No half, it is not just Jews no longer doing math Olympiad/westighouse science activities. Their share of top PSAT scores has cratered compared to their population share, indicating they are doing worse on high stakes and important standardized tests."

The SAT and PSAT's correlation with IQ is less than it used to be because they've reduced g-loading.

Another factor is that in my social circles even young Jews with two Jewish parents have become academically lazy since the time they were born in the booming 1980s and 1990s. They're increasingly getting outhustled at school by Eastern European Jewish immigrants who, like most poor immigrants, are more likely to go into STEM.

"An ever-increasing percentage of high school aged Jews are Orthodox or Hasidic, and as such are less likely to be applying to prestigious colleges."

Orthodox and Hasidic Jews are less inclined to apply to prestigious schools because of their secularism.

"The other is that Jews control the levers of power,"

The Jews are overrepresented minority at the top, they are still a minority. The elite is majority gentile white. And those over representation numbers are dubious because, again, they count partial Jews as full Jews.

The New York Times' Pinch Sulzberger is half-WASP on his mother's side and was raised an Episcopalian but he is normally counted by anti-Semites and stupid journalists as a full Jew:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Ochs_Sulzberger,_Jr.

Sulzberger was born in Mount Kisco, New York, the son of Barbara Winslow (née Grant) and the previous Times publisher Arthur Ochs Sulzberger, grandson of Times publisher Arthur Hays Sulzberger, and the great-grandson of Times owner and publisher Adolph Ochs. His mother was of mostly English and Scottish origin[2] and his father was of Jewish origin (both Ashkenazi and Sephardic). His parents divorced when he was five. He was raised in his mother's Episcopalian faith, but no longer observes the religion.[3] On May 24, 1975, he married artist and journalist Gail Gregg. The ceremony was performed by Rev. Katherine Belton, a Presbyterian assistant pastor, in the Greggs' garden in Topeka, Kansas.[4] In May 2008, they announced plans to end their marriage.[5]

"The NJPS data reveal that the college-age Jewish population is almost evenly split between those who have two Jewish parents (48 percent) and those who have only one Jewish parent (45 percent)."

And that's not mention the students who are half Jewish and half Asian. That's a very common combination.

@ Black_Rose,

TUJ wrote it for me. The PSAT and SAT aren't as g-loaded as in the past. In support of that contention, the American Mensa website indicates that it no longer allows submission of PSAT scores (since 1993) or SAT scores (since 1994) for admission. LSAT scores are still permitted.

http://www.us.mensa.org/join/testscores/qualifyingscores/

Even if Unz is off by 50% in his counting of Jews, his data still show a significant decline in academic performance in the last 20-30 years. Relative to this academic performance, Jewish Ivy representation is higher than warranted under meritocratic admissions. Non-Jewish whites and Asians are underrepresented relative to their academic performance. Asians as a percentage of top performers as measured by objective standards went way up in the last 20-30 years but their overall Ivy fraction has not moved at all (at Harvard it went down).

No one seems to have mentioned that Jews are underrepresented in Phi Beta Kappa at Harvard relative to their numbers and relative to non-Jewish whites and Asians. (You have to actually read Unz's article to see that.) Yet another indication of a Jewish "preference" in admissions.

"This is essentially Unz's theory, which has somehow been lost on everyone who's reviewed the article."

What IS Unz's theory? I thought the article rambled a lot too. Somewhere at the end he wrote about admissions officers and how dumb they were. So, do Jews get into Ivies in percentages way above their pop'n representation because of stupid admissions officers? That wasn't made clear.

In fact, the whole admissions process wasn't made clear in the article. I can't believe that admissions officers make the final decisions. I think they sort and winnow in the early rounds but that each kid is handpicked by some committee of top level functionaries, and by the President him or her self.

I think that the reason Jews are so overrepped is money. The Ivies think that Jews will be good resources to be tapped for fund raising in the future, and for bequests. This will last for a generation until a new ethnic group takes over.

If America survives. I'm beginning to think it could crack up.

Undiscovered jew wrote:
"Unz is lying because he's counting half-Jews as fully Jewish. A majority of self identifying Jews at the Ivys have one gentile parent:"

Unz wrote in his piece

"The pattern of American ethnic origins is complex and interwoven, with high intermarriage rates, leading to categories being fluid and ambiguous"

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First, it seems a bit extreme to use the word "lying" to describe what you think is a flaw in his research. No need for hysterics.

Secondly, even if everything Unz said about the overrepresentation of Jews were cut in half, it would still be very significant.

(And I'm a jew at an Ivy league school now, so hold of on screaming about anti-Semitism).

"TUJ wrote it for me. The PSAT and SAT aren't as g-loaded as in the past. In support of that contention, the American Mensa website indicates that it no longer allows submission of PSAT scores (since 1993) or SAT scores (since 1994) for admission. LSAT scores are still permitted. "

You have no psychometric evidence to back that up. But even if we assume that the test is less g-loaded, there are also non-g factors being captured by the tests. You have to provide some evidence that other groups have an advantage on the non-g aspects of the test; but that contention still seems dubious because the test is highly verbally loaded, thus the non-g verbal elements give Jews an advantage.

"Unz wrote in his piece

"The pattern of American ethnic origins is complex and interwoven, with high intermarriage rates, leading to categories being fluid and ambiguous"

---

First, it seems a bit extreme to use the word "lying" to describe what you think is a flaw in his research. No need for hysterics."

If he knew about 50% intermarriage rates then why does he compare the total partial and full Jew descended population only to the "2 to 1.5 percent" of full Jews? The correct reference population would be partial Jews which constitute over 10 million white Americans and 5% of the white American total, not 2.5%. And likely higher than 5% among gen-X and gen-Y Jews.


What explanation is there other than Ron Unz is lying?

"Secondly, even if everything Unz said about the overrepresentation of Jews were cut in half, it would still be very significant."

True, but then why lie and double full Jewish numbers in the Ivies by comparing partial and full Jews with only the full Jew population?

"You have to provide some evidence that other groups have an advantage on the non-g aspects of the test; but that contention still seems dubious because the test is highly verbally loaded, thus the non-g verbal elements give Jews an advantage."

Wrong.

The most g-loaded SAT and PSAT questions of any section, analogies, were eliminated from the SAT and PSAT.

Don't know if this is of any significance? But there are far more Jews who are the prole variety even among the younger generations than there are the Asian working class, except for the immigrant types. But Jews come out more at the top because of several reasons, a longer history of achievement, they're White and are more suited in positions than Asians (cognitive traits).

Apparently you missed that Jews are ONLY 6% of NMS semifinalists nationwide.

That's only twice their % of the population and far less that their % of the Forbes 400 or Nobel laureates.

The tests aren't as g-loaded, but the percentage of Jewish NMSs has gone up or down?

[HS: Jews may be under-reporting their religion because they feel that checking the Jewish box could be used against them in the college admissions process. Certainly, Asians would be smart not to check the Asian box.]

Since NMS semifinalist status is based on the PSAT score, that information doesn't do much more than correlate Unz's reportage that PSAT scores have declined among younger Jews. Also of note, semifinalist status is awarded to the top 1% of scorers in each state. If the average PSAT scores in New York are higher than the average PSAT scores in Oklahoma, it is easier to become a semifinalist in Oklahoma than in New York. Concentration of Jews in high-scoring populous states might further depress their percentage of NMS semifinalists.

"But Jews come out more at the top because of several reasons, a longer history of achievement, they're White and are more suited in positions than Asians (cognitive traits)."

What explains the underrepresentation of white gentiles? They're white, and are more suited in positions than Asians (cognitive traits), and yet they're more underrepresented than Asians.

"HS: Jews may be under-reporting their religion because they feel that checking the Jewish box could be used against them in the college admissions process. Certainly, Asians would be smart not to check the Asian box."

It is often possible to determine from an applicant's name if he or she is Asian. Jewish too.

[HS: Hard to do with "Jews," because many people who identify as Christian or no religion at all have a last name shared by people who identify as Jewish. And there are Jews that have names commonly thought of as gentile rather than Jewish.]

"Orthodox and Hasidic Jews are less inclined to apply to prestigious schools because of their secularism".

They are also proles, especially the Hasidic, which means a lower IQ median, and thus are less worthy of any prestigious school admission.

I think the Russian Jews of Brighton Beach, Brooklyn are even less inclined to be Ivy League bound. They aren't too different from the other working class proles.


"What explains the underrepresentation of white gentiles? They're white, and are more suited in positions than Asians (cognitive traits), and yet they're more underrepresented than Asians".

I see almost nonexistent Asians in power when it comes to White institutions. I have yet to see any significant company founded by Asians. I could only think of 2 fortune 500s with an Asian founder.

Asians will of course blame White racism for their lack of ascendancy, but their behavorial and cognitive traits tell another story. They lack creativity, extroversion and most importantly, an individual aggressive drive to be the pioneering "one", something that Jews and White gentiles have embarked on. They make good rote learners and doers, but horrible outside of the box thinkers. Asians are less risk averse (due to the shaming tactics of their Confucian upbringing)and are more conformist because of it.

Nice work on Unz's part. I suspect it's largely a class thing--the Jews I knew who were really good at STEM, etc. were first-generation-immigrant types. After that they all chase banking like the WASPs.

I had read that bit about ROTC, etc. Probably it is as Unz describes--a bunch of humanities majors keeping out the Christians. I know a lot of these people and it wouldn't surprise me one bit. Still, I suspect ethnic nepotism's got something to do with it too...

Oil and gas industry: I think most people, at least in the elite, actually do believe in global warming (I was certainly impressed when NYC got flooded), but some degree of 'the wrong people are doing well' is probably involved too. After all, nobody's cracked down on Hollywood...

Did Unz have any data based on "box-checking" self-identification of students?

My understanding was that his findings were based on looking at names, which he admits is a highly imperfect approach. The article includes a pile of appendices if you want to critique his methods.

I see no evidence of intellectual dishonesty on his part.

Furthermore, the patterns that he discovered were surprisingly consistent, whether he looked at high-school student performance or college admissions across the Ivy League.

I've been thinking a little more about this, and how it ties into another issue.

There have been "studies" lately showing that there is not as much economic mobility in the US as there has been in the past, and as there is in other countries. They usually break incomes down into quintiles, and look at which one people were born in, and where they end up.

Well, if poor whites, and perhaps Asians (who are generally poorer if they come from immigrant families) are being discriminated against in the Ivy league in favor of Jews (who are upper income to begin with), doesn't that explain the lack of economic mobility?

I read the article, and I think it is an important article.

Personally I wonder what other people will think now about my kids.
They were both admitted to CalTech (but did not go there),
were admitted to and graduated from
MIT (EE andCompSci) and Cornell (Dept. of Chemistry and Chem. Biology)
and then got their Ph.D.s from Stanford and UCSF respectively, at age 26 each.

Will they be now, due to their (and my) last name,
considered as "under-achievers"?
Will they be now considered
as admitted by “quasi-affirmative action” quota?

"I see almost nonexistent Asians in power when it comes to White institutions. I have yet to see any significant company founded by Asians. I could only think of 2 fortune 500s with an Asian founder."

Right, but what explains the underrepresentation of white gentiles? They're white, and are more suited in positions than Asians (cognitive traits), and yet they're increasingly underrepresented in places like Congress:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/on-faith/new-congress-more-religiously-diverse-less-protestant/2012/11/19/4b7420ea-327e-11e2-92f0-496af208bf23_story.html

and in places like the Supreme Court, where they make up less than half the court.

There aren't enough upper income Jews to account for all of the lack of social mobility among poor whites and Asians. The South, where I grew up, was crawling with extremely poor white folks 100 years ago when everyone who ran things was lily white. And poor Asians have done quite well with respect to social mobility in America. There are rather a lot of young adult degreed professional Asian-Americans making over $100k per year whose parents worked seven days per week in laundromats and restaurants.

@ Nebbish

Asians are strictly lower middle class.

NYC has a large holdover of Jewish proles who don't have kids, and some of them never married.

Jews are different from Asians in that there is more of a diversity range of socioeconomic class. From very poor to very rich. From very prole to very SWPL.

@ Jacob

All I can say is that White gentiles [HS: elite white gentiles are doing great, while prole white Jews are shafted too] and to a certain degree Asians, have been shafted to accomodate a more PC oriented society not soley based on merit, but of a race and a merit criteria, which of course was put in place under the Liberal paradigm.

My previous rant of a reinsurgence of White Alpha Male qualities would cure a lot of the Liberal ills that have been inflicted into our society for quite sometime.

"There have been "studies" lately showing that there is not as much economic mobility in the US as there has been in the past, and as there is in other countries ... Well, if poor whites, and perhaps Asians (who are generally poorer if they come from immigrant families) are being discriminated against in the Ivy league in favor of Jews (who are upper income to begin with), doesn't that explain the lack of economic mobility?"

Doubtful. The percentage of people who attend Ivy League and other high-prestige universities is too small to have much of an effect on nationwide economic mobility results.

HS said: "elite white gentiles are doing great, while prole white Jews are shafted too"

Anyone who is of elite status will of course be doing great. This speaks for a few because the elites are a small minority.

"perhaps Asians (who are generally poorer if they come from immigrant families) are being discriminated against in the Ivy league in favor of Jews (who are upper income to begin with)"

Asians are suckers, go to any Asian studies department of any American university and it's usually some White person in charge of it. Could you imagine a White gentile heading the Jewish studies department? A good reason why Ivies are admitting Asians in small numbers is because they don't add any value to the school and they don't have any interest in intellectual discourse. They only strive to be good rote learners so they can get a good paying job. Jews are overrepresented in Academia, Asians are not. Academia meaning professors in the colleges and it doesn't have to be Ivy League.

[HS: Asians are too smart to work as college professors when they can make a lot more money working in private industry.]

The PSAT doesn't take a lot of prep work to do well on if you're smart. I studied a grand total of about an hour for it (read the book on how it was formatted and sample questions), and did almost as well on it as on the SATs. (Which I also didn't do a lot of prep for and scored pretty damn well.)

Back in the day, the PSAT was used as the "Practice" SAT - you might get a scholarship out of it, but you also got experience taking an SAT-like test in an SAT-like environment, but if you bombed, there weren't any consequences.

Any kid in the top 1% of intelligence going to a school which aims its kids at college will score in the top 2% of the PSAT without trying.


"Asians are too smart to work as college professors when they can make a lot more money working in private industry".

Which is the reason why the Ivies don't see any substantial investment coming from Asians.

Academia is flooded with Jewish professors. The Jewish presence also helps Jews get into the schools, not to mention the vast sum of money donated by them. The Asians on the other hand, get into bribing schemes which makes them even more disliked and unwanted by the prestigious schools.

Why has no one called out "Just Speculating" on racism? He's terrible! For the sake of Jews I hope he is not Jewish.

Also, STEM dominance is a sign of momentum. If you lose the skills you lose the momentum. Rentier classes die out sooner or later. When all your friends go into banking you're running on fumes.

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